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Kasparov 
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Garry Kasparov
Number of games in database: 2,349
Years covered: 1973 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2812
Highest rating achieved in database: 2851
Overall record: +779 -116 =766 (70.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      688 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (192) 
    B30 B40 B31 B50 B33
 Ruy Lopez (102) 
    C92 C84 C97 C67 C80
 Nimzo Indian (86) 
    E32 E34 E21 E20 E46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (81) 
    D37 D31 D35 D30 D38
 Queen's Indian (80) 
    E12 E15 E17 E16
 Slav (63) 
    D19 D10 D15 D11 D17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (341) 
    B90 B84 B82 B83 B22
 King's Indian (157) 
    E92 E97 E76 E60 E75
 Sicilian Najdorf (111) 
    B90 B92 B97 B93 B96
 Grunfeld (98) 
    D85 D97 D76 D78 D87
 Sicilian Scheveningen (70) 
    B84 B82 B83 B80 B81
 English (34) 
    A15 A10 A11 A13
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 0-1
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 1-0
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 1-0
   Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 0-1
   Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 1-0
   Adams vs Kasparov, 2005 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984)
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1985)
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1987)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990)
   Kasparov - Short World Championship Match (1993)
   Kasparov - Anand World Championship Match (1995)
   Kasparov - Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Linares (1997)
   Novgorod (1997)
   Wijk aan Zee Corus (2000)
   Las Palmas (1996)
   Russian Championships 2004 (2004)
   Astana (2001)
   Linares (1999)
   Sarajevo (2000)
   10th Euwe Memorial (1996)
   Lichthof Chess Champions (2006)
   XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005)
   Linares (1994)
   Tilburg Fontys (1997)
   Bled Olympiad (2002)
   European Clubs Cup (Men) (2003)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by KingG
   Kasparov's super simuls by crawfb5
   Match Kasparov! by amadeus
   Size GAZA by lonchaney
   senakash's favorite games by senakash
   kasparov best games by brager
   senakash's favorite games qgd by senakash
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   KASPAROV GAMES by gambitfan
   Road to the Championship - Garry Kasparov (I) by Fischer of Men
   senakash's favorite games mini by senakash
   senakash's favorite games garry by senakash
   senakash's favorite games ruylopez by senakash
   Garry Kasparov's Greatest Chess Games (Stohl) by AdrianP

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KASPAROV: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
   Kasparov vs Igor Ivanov, 1978

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GARRY KASPAROV
(born Apr-13-1963, 51 years old) Azerbaijan (citizen of Russia)
PRONUNCIATION:
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One of the greatest players of all time, Kasparov was undisputed World Champion from 1985 until 1993, and Classical World Champion from 1993 until 2000. Known to chess fans world wide as the <Beast From Baku> on account of his aggressive and highly successful style of play, his main early influence was the combative and combinative style of play displayed by Alexander Alekhine.

Early Years

Originally named Garry Kimovich Weinstein (or Weinshtein), he was born in Baku, in what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Republic of Azerbaijan), and is the son of Klara Shagenovna Kasparova and Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein. At five years old, young Garry Weinstein taught himself how to play chess from watching his relatives solve chess puzzles in a newspaper. His immense natural talent was soon realized and from age 7, he attended the Young Pioneer Palace in Baku (where for some time he was known as "Garry Bronstein".*). At 10, he began training at the Mikhail Botvinnik Soviet chess school. He was first coached by Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov and later by Alexander Shakarov. Five years after his father's untimely death from leukaemia, the twelve year old chess prodigy adopted the Russian-sounding name Garry Kasparov (Kas-PARE-off) a reference to his mother's Armenian maiden name, Gasparyan (or Kasparian).

Championships

Junior Twelve-year old Kasparov won the Soviet Junior Championship, held in Tbilisi in 1976 scoring 7/9, and repeated his success in 1977, winning with a score of 8˝ of 9. The next several years were spent marking his rise as a world-class talent. He became World Junior Champion in 1980 in Dortmund, the same year he earned the grandmaster title.

National He first qualified for the Soviet Chess Championship at age 15 in 1978, the youngest ever player at that level. He won the 64-player Swiss system tournament at Daugavpils on tiebreak over Igor Vasilievich Ivanov, to capture the sole qualifying place. He was joint Soviet Champion in 1980-81 with Lev Psakhis ** and in 1988 Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov tied in the Super-Soviet Championship***. In 2004, Garry Kasparov won the Russian Championships 2004 (2004) with a stunning +5 score.

World On the basis of his result in the 1981 Soviet Championship, which doubled as a zonal tournament for the USSR region, he earned a place in the 1982 Moscow Interzonal tournament, which he won, to qualify for the Candidates Tournament matches that were held in 1983 and 1984. At age 19, he was the youngest Candidate since Robert James Fischer, who was 15 when he qualified in 1958. At this stage, he was already the #2-rated player in the world, trailing only world champion Karpov on the January 1983 list. These Candidates matches were the first and last Candidates matches Kasparov contested, as he declined to participate in the Candidates held under the auspices of the PCA in 2002 to decide a challenger to his successor as classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik. Kasparov's first Candidates match in Moscow was a best-of-ten affair against Alexander Beliavsky, whom he defeated 6–3 (+4 -1 =4). After much political ado, Kasparov defeated Viktor Korchnoi in London in the best-of-12 semi-final match by 7–4 (+4 -1 =6), and in early 1984 in Vilnius he defeated former World Champion Vasily Smyslov in the best-of-16 finals played by 8.5-4.5 (+4 =9 -0) to earn his challenge against Karpov. By the time the match with Smyslov was played, Kasparov had become the number-one ranked player in the world with a FIDE rating of 2710. He became the youngest ever world number-one, a record that lasted 12 years until being broken by Vladimir Kramnik in January 1996 and again by his former pupil, Magnus Carlsen in 2010.

At one stage during the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984), Kasparov trailed 5-0 in the first-to-win-6 match. He then fought back to win three games and bring the score to 5–3 in Karpov's favour after 48 games, making it the longest world championship match ever. At that point, the match was ended without result by the then FIDE President, the late Florencio Campomanes, with Karpov thus retaining the title. Further details can be found in the match link at the head of this paragraph. Kasparov won the best-of-24 games Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985) in Moscow by 13–11, winning the 24th and last game with Black. He was then 22, the youngest ever World Champion, and broke the record held by Mikhail Tal for over 20 years. Karpov exercised his right to a rematch, the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986), which took place in 1986, hosted jointly in London and Leningrad, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov scored of 12˝–11˝, retaining the title. The fourth match, the Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987) in Seville. Karpov had been directly seeded into and won the final match of the Candidates' Matches to again become the official challenger. Kasparov retained his title by winning the final game and drawing the match 12–12. The fifth and last championship match between the two, Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990), was held in New York and Lyon in 1990, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won by 12˝–11˝. In their five world championship matches, the combined game tally was +21 -19 =104 in Kasparov’s favour.

Kasparov subsequently defended his title against Nigel Short under the auspices of the PCA in 1993, and against Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Five years later, in 2000 (Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)), Kasparov finally relinquished his crown to his former student, Vladimir Kramnik who was granted the right to challenge without having to qualify, the first time this had happened since 1935, when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger. Subsequently, Kasparov remained the top rated player in the world, ahead of both Kramnik and the FIDE World Champions, on the strength of a series of wins in major tournaments.

Under the "Prague Agreement” which was put together by Yasser Seirawan to reunite the two titles, Kasparov was to play a match against the 2002 FIDE World Champion Ruslan Ponomariov in September 2003. But this match was cancelled when Ponomariov was dissatisfied with the terms of the contract. Subsequent plans for a match against 2004 FIDE World Champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov, to be held in January 2005 in the United Arab Emirates fell through due to lack of funding. Shortly after this, Kasparov announced his retirement from competitive chess.

In an interview in 2007, Kasparov said that <…my decision in 1993 to break away from the world chess federation, FIDE, with Nigel Short was the worst mistake of my career. It was a serious miscalculation on my part. I thought we could start fresh with a professional organisation, but there was little support among the players. It led to short-term progress in commercial sponsorship for chess, but in the long run hurt the game...> ****

Classical Tournaments

In 1978, Kasparov won the Sokolsky Memorial tournament in Minsk as a wild card entry, a victory which convinced Kasparov he could aim for the World Championship. He played in a grandmaster tournament in Banja Luka, Yugoslavia in 1979 while still unrated, due to Korchnoi’s withdrawal. He took first place with an undefeated record, two points ahead of the field. Game Collection: Banja Luka 1979 He emerged with a provisional rating of 2595, immediately landing at world number 15, a feat only surpassed by Gata Kamsky in July 1990. His first win in a superclass-level international tournament was scored at Bugojno, Yugoslavia in 1982 and his win in Linares in 2002 is the tenth victory in a record for the most consecutive victories in super tournaments: Linares 4 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Wijk aan Zee 3 (1999, 2000, 2001), Sarajevo 2 (1999, 2000) and Astana 1 (2001). Kasparov also holds the record for most consecutive professional tournament victories, placing first or equal first in 15 individual tournaments from 1981 to 1990. It started with the 1981 USSR Championship and finished in Linares in 1990. His five epic title matches against Karpov were held during this period. Subsequently, Kasparov won Linares again in 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005, the latter being his swan song from the game.

Olympiads

Kasparov played in eight Olympiads. He represented the Soviet Union four times, in 1980, 1982, 1986 and 1988, and Russia four times: in 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2002 playing board 1 on each occasion apart from 1980 (2nd reserve) and 1982 (2nd board). In 82 games, he scored (+50 =29 -3), for 78.7% and won a total of 19 medals, including 8 team gold medals, 5 board golds, 2 performance golds, 2 performance silvers and 2 board bronzes. Kasparov also represented the USSR once in Youth Olympiad competition at Graz in 1981, when he played board 1 for the USSR board 1, scoring 9/10 (+8 =2 -0), the team winning the gold medal.

Team chess

Kasparov made his international teams debut for the USSR at age 16 in the 1980 European Team Championship at Skara and played for Russia in the 1992 edition of that championship. He won a total of five medals including at Skara 1980, as USSR 2nd reserve, 5˝/6 (+5 =1 -0), team gold, board gold and at Debrecen 1992, Russia board 1, 6/8 (+4 =4 -0), team gold, board gold, performance silver.

Matches

<Computer> Kasparov defeated the chess computer Deep Thought (Computer) in both games of a two-game match in 1989. In February 1996, he defeated IBM's chess computer Deep Blue (Computer) with three wins and two draws and one loss. In 1997, an updated version of Deep Blue defeated Kasparov 3˝–2˝ in a highly publicised six-game match. The match was even after five games but Kasparov lost Game 6 - Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 - to lose the match. This was the first time a computer had ever defeated a world champion in match play. In January 2003, he played and drew a six game FIDE Man-Machine WC (2003) match against Deep Junior (Computer). In November 2003, he played and drew a four-game Man-Machine World Chess Championship (2003) against the computer program X3D Fritz (Computer) X3D Fritz, although he was constrained through the use of a virtual board, 3D glasses and a speech recognition system.

<Human – classical> Kasparov played several matches apart from his matches in the World Championship cycles. Full details can be seen at Game Collection: Match Kasparov!.

<Human – rapid> In 1998, Kasparov played a blitz match against Kramnik in Moscow, that match being drawn +7-7=10. He fared better in the 2000 internet blitz match against Judit Polgar, winning one and drawing one. The following year, he played a blitz match against the many times Greek speed chess champion Hristos Banikas of Greece, winning 5 and drawing one. In his 2002 blitz against Elisabeth Paehtz in Munich, he won 6-0. Later in 2002, Kasparov lost a four game rapid match (+1 -2 =1) over two days in December 2002 in New York City against Anatoly Karpov. In 2009 in Valencia, Spain, he again played Karpov, and won the Kasparov-Karpov Rapid Match (2009) 3-1 and the Kasparov-Karpov Blitz Match (2009) by 6-2. In 2011, as part of his Chess In Schools campaign, he played a two game Kasparov-Lagrave Blitz Match (2011) in Clichy France, winning by 1.5-0.5. A few months later in October 2011, he won the Kasparov-Short Blitz Match (2011) 4.5-3.5 (+3 -2 =3), breaking the deadlock after game 7 by winning game 8 to win the match.

<Simuls> In 1985, Kasparov played his first simul against a team, the Hamburg Bundesliga team lead by GM Murray Chandler, and lost 3.5-4.5, the first and only time he lost a simul against a team. In 1987, he played a simul against the same albeit slightly stronger team, but this time he was prepared and crushed the Hamburg players 7-1; later in 1987 he also crushed the Swiss team: Game Collection: Kasparov vs Swiss Team Simul by 5.5-0.5, drawing only with former World Junior Champion Werner Hug. In 1988 he played a simul against the French team in Evry (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul), winning 4, drawing one and losing one; he played the French team again in 1989 (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul 1989), this time winning three and drawing 3 games. Also in 1988 he played a simul against a group of powerful US Juniors, and won by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2)*****. In 1992, Kasparov played a clock simul against the German team ( Game Collection: Kasparov vs German National Team Simul) which included former title contender Vlastimil Hort with whom he drew, winning 2 and drawing 2. He played a simul against the Argentinean team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Argentinian Team Simul) winning (+7 -1 =4); in 1998 he played the Israeli team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Israeli National Team Simul) winning 7-1, and in 2001 he played the Czech team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Czech National Team Simul) in Prague, winning by +4 -1 =3.

Rating

Kasparov's ratings achievements include being rated world #1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005. He was the world number-one ranked player for 255 months, a record that far outstrips all other previous and current number-one ranked players. Kasparov had the highest Elo rating in the world continuously from 1986 to 2005. However, Vladimir Kramnik equaled him in the January 1996 FIDE ratings list, technically supplanting him because he played more games. He was also briefly ejected from the list following his split from FIDE in 1993, but during that time he headed the rating list of the rival PCA. At the time of his retirement, he was still ranked #1 in the world, with a rating of 2812. In January 1990 Kasparov achieved the (then) highest FIDE rating ever, passing 2800 and breaking Bobby Fischer's old record of 2785. On the July 1999 and January 2000 FIDE rating lists Kasparov reached a 2851 Elo rating, which became the highest rating ever achieved until surpassed by Magnus Carlsen in 2013. There was a time in the early 1990s when Kasparov was over 2800 and the only person in the 2700s was Anatoly Karpov.

Other

Under Kasparov's tutelage, Carlsen became the youngest ever to achieve a FIDE rating higher than 2800, and the youngest ever world number one. Kasparov also assisted Anand’s preparation for the Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) against challenger Veselin Topalov. Since his retirement, Kasparov has concentrated much of his time and energy in Russian politics. He is also a prolific author, most famously his <My Great Predecessors> series. His politics and authorship are discussed at some detail in the wiki article and at his official website cited below. In 2007, he was ranked 25th in The Daily Telegraph's list of 100 greatest living geniuses and has won 11 Chess Oscars.

Kasparov has been married three times: first to Masha, with whom he had a daughter, Polina (b. 1993), before divorcing; to Yulia, with whom he had a son, Vadim (b. 1996) before their 2005 divorce; and to Daria, with whom he also has a daughter, Aida (b. 2006).

Biography: http://www.kasparovagent.com/garry_... Kasparov’s official website: http://kasparov.com/ Kasparov Chess Foundation: http://www.kasparovchessfoundation.... ]

* http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/...; ** [rusbase-1]; *** [rusbase-2]; **** [rusbase-3]; ***** http://www.chessbase.com/newsprint....

Wikipedia article: Kasparov


 page 1 of 94; games 1-25 of 2,349  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. E Magerramov vs Kasparov 0-135 1973 BakuB54 Sicilian
2. Kasparov vs O Vasilchenko 1-040 1973 KievC03 French, Tarrasch
3. Kasparov vs S Muratkuliev 1-032 1973 Baku tt U18C77 Ruy Lopez
4. E Kengis vs Kasparov ½-½54 1973 Vilnius LTUB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
5. Kasparov vs Averbakh 1-048 1974 Moscow clock simC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange
6. Korchnoi vs Kasparov ½-½42 1975 Palace of Pioneers sim.E80 King's Indian, Samisch Variation
7. Karpov vs Kasparov 1-045 1975 LeningradB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
8. Kasparov vs E Kengis ½-½27 1975 BakuB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
9. O Pavlenko vs Kasparov 0-134 1975 BakuE71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3)
10. Kasparov vs Polugaevsky ½-½25 1975 LeningradB40 Sicilian
11. Kasparov vs B Kantsler 1-032 1975 Junior competitionC00 French Defense
12. Kasparov vs Gorelov 1-058 1975 BakuC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
13. E Vladimirov vs Kasparov ½-½30 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
14. Tilichkin vs Kasparov 0-143 1975 BakuB87 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5
15. Kasparov vs Smyslov 0-130 1975 Team GM/Young PioneersC60 Ruy Lopez
16. Kasparov vs Yurtaev 0-144 1975 BakuB39 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Breyer Variation
17. Rizvonov vs Kasparov 0-137 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
18. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 BakuB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
19. Einoris vs Kasparov 0-142 1975 BakuB59 Sicilian, Boleslavsky Variation, 7.Nb3
20. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 LeningradB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
21. Dvoirys vs Kasparov ½-½45 1975 BakuB89 Sicilian
22. Kasparov vs A Sokolov 1-032 1975 BakuB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
23. F Sideif-Sade vs Kasparov ½-½42 1976 TbilisiB53 Sicilian
24. Romanishin vs Kasparov 0-132 1976 LeningradA02 Bird's Opening
25. Kasparov vs O Pavlenko ½-½35 1976 MoscowB02 Alekhine's Defense
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Kasparov on Kasparov: Part I

Kibitzer's Corner
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Jun-20-11  shach matov: It seems that every couple of months a new Fischer fanboy appears on this page and tries to persuade the rest of us that he was the best. <fab4> tried and failed rather badly. now <kardopov> is making the same mistake:)

well I already summarized <fab4>'s "argument" and will simply repost it here in reply to <kardopov>:

<fab4: Fischer was an icon>

in a sense that's exactly your problem. having created a false idol for yourself, you're unable to objectively differentiate reality from fantasy.

I give you facts, and you "hit back" with fantasies.

I say: Kasparov has successfully defended his title multiple times. You say: everybody in America knows Fischer's name.

Me: GK has dominated the chess world for 20 years. You: Fischer dominated for a few years... BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY A MOVIE HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT HIM!

Me: GK has never ran way from a challenge. You: everybody knows fisher's name but nobody knows karpov.

Me: Karpov has a record of 160 first place tourney finishes. You: Fischer has changed the world! Americans can't even spell Karpov!

Obviously nobody doubts fisher's place in chess history, but even among the greats there is a hierarchy of greatness.

Jun-20-11  maelith: <kardopov: You mean the way Fischer demolishes his opponents? C'mmon, Fischer is way ahead of any contenders. Fischer is certainly dominating. Not even Kasparov can lay claim to that kind of dominance when he wrested the crown from Karpov.>

From 1946 to 1956, Taimanov was was among the world's top ten players. When Fischer played Taimanov, he was very much past his prime. Can Fischer lay claim of doing a 17 to 0 against Shirov, 13 to 0 against Gelfand (current challenger of Anand)?Of course dominating performance like these add greatness to Kasparov and Fischer, but these are not the only thing that makes someone the greatest, longevity, quality of opposition, how many times you defended your title and getting the highest rating ever should be all considered, that is why Kasparov is the greatest, he meets all these criteria.

<kardopov:
He even fired one of his seconds whom he sensed of betraying him. He needs a team to assists him in his preparations, period! >

And is it only Kasparov that has seconds on world championship match? Anand has five seconds on his match against Kasparov, same as Karpov.

<kardopov:
But my point is, it is not only longevity that can paint greatness >

Yea you are correct it is not only longevity that can paint greatness, but longevity is not only thing that Kasparov has. He defended his title many times against all time greats, achieved the highest rating ever. Kasparov achieved an unprecendented level of tournament dominance, exemplified by his performance in the face of strong opposition - in tournaments where the opposition strength exceeded 12, he placed outright 1st 8 out of 12 times. Fischer never competed in a tournament of opposition strength higher than 12. Moreover, he only completed 12 world class tournaments during his top-flight career.

<kardopov:
but the manner how a person overcome gargantuan oddity and emerges triumphantly. >

By that logic, Nowitski should be greater than Shaq cause he win a championship against a harder odds than Shaq(he has help with Kobe and Wade.) As the poster above told, That is no different than any other world champion who goes through qualifying and dethrones the champion. That is no different of Kaspa facing the then Fischer tormentor Korchnoi at candidates matches. And beside Larsen complained that the condition of the match does not suite him against Fischer.

To sum it up, Kasparov is the greatest cause he meets many criteria he has the longevity, dominance, gained the highest rating ever and defended his title multiple times. As I told Fischer never competed in a tournament of opposition strength higher than 12. Moreover, he only completed 12 world class tournaments during his top-flight career.

Jun-20-11  M.D. Wilson: Who cares! Just admire the chess! Was Einstein greater than Newton? Was Mozart more beautiful than Bach?
Jun-20-11  ripp: According to some IQ experts on the web, Einstein's IQ is lower than Newton's. and Mozart was a bad composer according to glenn gould and Frederick Delius :)
Jun-20-11  maelith: M.D. Wilson not comparable, Newton and Einstein are almost equal, while Kasparov has more achievement than Fischer.
Jun-20-11  Kaspablanca: One aspect kardapov overlook why Fischer made chess popular in USA is due to the match took place in the middle of the USSR-USA cold war; only the space race was ahead, so if the challenger were someone named Smith, Johhnson it would be the same popularity in USA. Kaspaov`s oposition in tournaments and matches was much superior that Fischer had; Karpov at his best, a strong Anand, Kramnik at his best, 10 super tournament wins in a row, 2851 ranking, and a big etc.
Jun-20-11  fab4: < maelith >

Are you for real ? Fischer won EVERY tournament he had to.. dominated many to an absurd degree.. Fischer could ONLY beat what was put infront of him..

INFLATION.. I don't trust or respect your stats...

Ultimately you cant compare different eras...

But Fischer rises above your silly tournament stats in any case.

Jun-20-11  fab4: <Kaspablanca:>

You're posting garbage.

Jun-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <kaspablanca One aspect kardapov overlook why Fischer made chess popular in USA is due to the match took place in the middle of the USSR-USA cold war; only the space race was ahead, so if the challenger were someone named Smith, Johhnson it would be the same popularity in USA.>

Good point. A further point is that, thanks to that historical accident, Fischer had a great opportunity to promote the game, but instead became a paranoid recluse.

Jun-20-11  fab4: < keypusher: <kaspablanca One aspect kardapov overlook why Fischer made chess popular in USA is due to the match took place in the middle of the USSR-USA cold war; only the space race was ahead, so if the challenger were someone named Smith, Johhnson it would be the same popularity in USA.> Good point. A further point is that, thanks to that historical accident, Fischer had a great opportunity to promote the game, but instead became a paranoid recluse.>

lol.. you really are a numptie.

I quote.. <Fischer had a great opportunity to promote the game >...

Right.

Nobody. And I mean nobody. Nobody in chess history has <promoted> the game of chess as much as Fischer ..

Nobody has publicised it as much, boosted it as much, improved it as much.

Nobody has given as much impetus to chess.

<keypusher> .. You're missing something pretty big lol

Jun-21-11  Kaspablanca: fab4: Oh, i see you cant stand the facts that GK surpass your idol Fischer, you`re only a fanboy that cant refute what i and the others kibitzers wrote.
Jun-21-11  Riverbeast: In terms of rating gap between him and the rest of the world (120 points!), and margins of victory in matches, nobody has equalled Fischer
Jun-21-11  positionalgenius: <Fab4> He isn't the only player to put on a dominant performace. It's pretty absurd how delusional you are.
Jun-21-11  Riverbeast: <He isn't the only player to put on a dominant performace>

Did anybody else ever beat Super GMs in a match 6-0 with no draws? Twice?

Did anybody else ever win 20 straight games at the highest level?

Did anybody else ever open a 120 point rating gap between him and the #2 player in the world?

As far as Kasparov's 'highest rating ever', people always forget that 20 years later, when Kasparov surpassed Fischer's rating, there was considerable rating inflation

Fischer's 2785 in 1972 would have been well over 2800 in the 1990s....And would be over 2900 today

When Spassky was World Champion, his rating was 2660

That 2660 rating would put him on place 86-88 on the May 2011 FIDE list...Along with Michael Roiz, Sebastian Feller, and Anton Korobov

Are Roiz, Feller, and Korobov as strong as Spassky was back then?

Jun-21-11  positionalgenius: <RB> Capablanca didn't lose a game for eight years. If your going to crunch numbers ( which means absolutely nothing when comparing a difference of this many years) then at least look at kasparovs tournament record combined with his title defenses. None match. Fischer flew through two people, then defeated a decent challenge with petrosian; and beat spassky 12.5-8.5. Karpov beat him two years later 7-4. For that matter, alot of former WCCs would be in the top 100 today and of course they would be strong.
Jun-21-11  positionalgenius: When comparing these two, people often simply throw out the same points over and over again. I realize he was a chess genius, that is obvious. But if you look at the top challenge he had (spassky) thats nowhere near the level of competition kasparov has faced in his career. He's faced a number of the best players to ever play chess in his lifetime, and often in WCC matches. Karpov(1984,85,86,87,1990)
Anand(1995)
Kramnik(2000)
and that isn't even to mention his total stranglehold over the sport for basically 15 years, maybe more. A massive plus score against everybody except Kramnik and karpov( the former and successive world champions.. that only adds to kasparov's depth.) He isn't my favorite player by any means, but there really isn't anyone who has totally dominated the sport like kasparov. Only capablanca comes close. Fischer had an amazing run, but I've already gone through the reasons why he isn't on kasparovs level.
Jun-21-11  positionalgenius: <<<<Despite this, he never devoted himself fully to chess, splitting his time and talents between the game and music (he was also a concert pianist). He still enjoyed several tournament successes over his lengthy career, particularly in the years 1950 to 1956, when he was considered to be among the top ten players in the world. He was a World Championship Candidate in 1953 and 1971. He did not have much success in either instance: in the 1953 Candidates tournament he finished in 8th place and in 1971 he was famously beaten by Robert James Fischer (+0, =0, -6).>>>>CG.com bio for taimanov. Its says, "he was considered to be in the top ten players in the world from 1950 to 1956".. The match took place in 1971. I would'nt really classify taimanov as a "super gm."
Jun-21-11  Riverbeast: <The match took place in 1971. I would'nt really classify taimanov as a "super gm.">

I think any GM who qualifies for the Candidates matches (especially back then, when you had to go thruogh zonal and interzonal tournaments) qualifies as a Super GM

And Fischer didn't just have a 'two year run' as a lot of people like to claim

It's true that he reached a higher level from 1970 on, but he was also the #1 rated player throughout most of the 1960s

Basically, he dominated a generation that had a lot of fantastic players....Spassky, Petrosian, Larsen, Stein, Najdorf, Portisch, Geller, Korchnoi, Tal, Smyslov, Bronstein, etc, etc

I don't think that generation of players was any weaker, pound for pound, than Kasparov's (or any other generation for that matter)

Jun-21-11
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  keypusher: <fab4> You make these assertions -- endlessly -- but there is nothing behind them.

The fact is Fischer never lifted a finger to promote chess in his life. Thanks to the Cold War chess got unprecedented prominence in the West in 1972, but that was something that happened to Fischer, not something he caused to happen. And then what did he do? He ran away. Quit.

No chessplayer ever had the opportunity Fischer had. No great master ever did less for the game.

Jun-21-11
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  perfidious: <positionalgenius: ...The match took place in 1971. I would'nt really classify taimanov as a "super gm.">

In the technical sense, Taimanov qualified, but the well-known truth was that he bought his way in, as follows: Taimanov vs Matulovic, 1970.

Jun-21-11  Lt.Surena: Bobby was a COWARD !
Jun-21-11  maelith: Riverbeast Geller is head to head ahead of Fischer. Looking at Fischer's record, he is not really dominant compare to Kasparov. I will list some of their records.

Efim Geller beat Robert James Fischer 5 to 3, with 2 draws.

Viktor Korchnoi tied Robert James Fischer 3 to 3, with 4 draws. One of Fischer's win comes from blitz.

Robert James Fischer beat Leonid Stein 1 to 0, with 1 draw.*

Mikhail Tal tied Robert James Fischer 4 to 4, with 5 draws.* Two of Fiscer's wins are from blitz

Robert James Fischer beat David Bronstein 1 to 0, with 3 draws.(lone win at blizt)

Robert James Fischer beat Bent Larsen 11 to 2, with 1 draw.

Robert James Fischer beat Vasily Smyslov 5 to 1, with 5 draws.

Garry Kasparov beat Alexey Shirov 17 to 0, with 15 draws.

Garry Kasparov beat Boris Gelfand 13 to 0, with 9 draws.*

Garry Kasparov beat Evgeny Bareev 12 to 0, with 6 draws

Garry Kasparov beat Viktor Korchnoi 18 to 1,

Kasparov beats Adams 13-1 (lone defeat at simul)

Garry Kasparov beat Judit Polgar 12 to 1, with 4 draws.

Garry Kasparov beat Viswanathan Anand 26 to 8,

Garry Kasparov beat Veselin Topalov 19 to 6,

Now that is what we call domination.

Jun-21-11  Lt.Surena: Back in 1981, Bobby tried to pull the same chess antics in a Pasadena Jail.

He tried to complain about the lights, take the action to a different room, renege on contracts, make up a Jewish holiday, ... to no avail ;-)

On later years, he wrote a letter to Bin Laden, became a fugitive from justice and still claimed he was a world champ.

Next, gadflies from the Bobby's forum to the rescue.

Jun-21-11
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  TheFocus: <maelith>

<Viktor Korchnoi tied Robert James Fischer 3 to 3, with 4 draws. One of Fischer's win comes from blitz.>

So does one of Korchnoi's. Korchnoi has a tie record with Bobby in tournament games. Or do you not do careful research?

Jun-21-11
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  TheFocus: Yesterday, I saw someone say that Gulko had a 3-1 score against Gary.

Then someone had the gall to say, "But two of his losses occurred when he was a teenager."

What difference does that make? Fischer lost to Tal and Korchnoi when he was a teenager, so is that an excuse also for Bobby?

And, in the same tournaments that Gary lost to Gulko, did he not also DEFEAT Grandmasters at the same or stronger strength as Gulko?

So if he lost to Gulko because he was a teenager, did he also beat everyone else because he was a teenager?

The truth is, that at that time, Gulko had Gary's number. Maybe later he would not if they had played more games.

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