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|May-23-15|| ||Marmot PFL: <<Marmot PFL: The US economy is the world's #1 importer and the #2 exporter. Oddly enough (at least to me) our #1 import, oil, is also our #3 export.>|
The US is a big player.>
Yes, it is. Import/export combined is almost 30% of GDP, hardly a small amount.
As for oil, we mostly import crude oil (mostly from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, and export finished petroleum products.
|May-23-15|| ||johnlspouge: < <Abdel Irada> wrote: "Exports," "net exports": Why do I feel another round of the Definition Game coming on? >|
And people say you are humorless :)
|May-23-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|May-23-15|| ||pawn to QB4: <<"Where's the coverage of heroes who stop mass killings?"
<Heroic citizens stopping someone from killing a large number of people don’t seem to be considered news worthy. Don’t people want to read about a brave soul risking his life by running towards the sound of gunfire while others run away? Yet, such stories never get national news coverage by the national mainstream media.|
The gun debate would be dramatically different if the national media carried even some of these dramatic stories.>>
I wonder, in what way different. I'm in the fortunate position of being an outsider, but you've raised a point which changed my view slightly. I'd thought of the US as a place where crazy gun laws result in many more deaths by the gun than we see elsewhere. Wow, you've pointed out that if it wasn't for the undoubted heroism you describe, the situation in the US would be even worse.
|May-23-15|| ||devere: "It's Not Race That Divides Us, But Culture"
by Jeffrey T Brown
<Indeed, the biggest lie told in black culture is that to “act white” is to sell out other blacks, a fraud whereby some blacks define themselves and each other by loyalty to the culture, rather than to the potential and possibilities of the individual. In this way, membership in the culture that self-oppresses is ensured through coercion and shame. To join the other culture is betrayal and disloyalty, rather than an act of exasperation, or optimism. There is a way out, but it will cost many who try dearly in friendships and family ties.
Those of us who do not oppress but merely live our lives with respect for the dignity of others, regardless of skin color, hear and see how black culture describes and defines us, and we cannot pretend to agree or accept their branding. We see the despair, the anger and hatred, the violence of the mob that is literally a single event away from boiling over, and we shake our heads because the wounds are largely self-inflicted. Their choices, be they in culture, leadership, propaganda, beliefs, morals or otherwise, were not made for them by us. They are not forced to remain in their perceived distress, but have chosen by their leaders and ideology to remain there, stuck until a future Moses leads them out of a self-imposed darkness that is unnecessary.
If this were not true, and if ours was a racist nation, the countless foreign nationals who come legally to the United States from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia would all fail miserably, falling victims to the entrenched racism that simply doesn’t exist. A major reason those people succeed, seizing upon the opportunities that are there for the taking, is that they are not indoctrinated by a culture that lies to them about what their future is, or could be, in our amazing country. They succeed because no one is preventing them from doing so.
If we were ever to have that honest conversation about race, it would need to start with culture, and how that form of black culture which imprisons its subscribers condemns them to failure. The last thing the president wants is that conversation. If all those people freed themselves from the yoke of that culture, they might turn on the Democrats forever. Imagine that.>
|May-23-15|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: Hey <devere>--I dare you to broaden your mind a little bit and read this:|
|May-23-15|| ||Shams: <Gregor> One of my petite dream jobs is photo caption writer for Cracked. I'm not clever enough unfortunately. |
|May-23-15|| ||john barleycorn: <...Tsk, tsk.
And people say you are humorless :)>
|May-23-15|| ||kellmano: I think it's an awful article. I've read the first three of them but will have to stop because I'm getting irked.|
Let's deal with the first. Set in the context of White Men complaining of discrimination. I've got no sympathy for the view that life is harder for White Men than other demographic groups. It is nevertheless the fact that individual White Men do have it hard sometimes (e.g. in custody battles) and to say 'Oh you idiot for complaining, you are not a person just part of a grander narrative' is totally moronic. Unless you are going to go back in time to see Black slaves and say similar.
The second point is moronic too. You could easily apply it to concerns bout climate change. 'Shut up about your concerns for the planet, humanity is winning'. I really loathe that argument, I'm sure someone can name the flaw, but it is of the form 'In the past people were worried about phenomena X, and X has happened repeatedly without disaster, therefore we should not worry about X'.
The third point is more reasonable IMO but I stopped reading there anyway on the basis of the above.
|May-23-15|| ||Shams: <kellmano> I'm so glad you're here, I've watched this video twice now and I'm dying to hear your critique of it.|
Ok, it's far too long for me to ask you to watch it. But you probably don't need to; I'm sure you're already familiar with Singer's arguments. Here is his new book, the one he and Robert Wright discuss:
What do you think of the Effective Altruism movement? I know you don't plump for Utilitarianism, but Singer does point out in the video: "I think if you're a Utilitarian you have to be an Effective Altruist, but I don't think the reverse is true."
|May-23-15|| ||kellmano: Hi <shams> I'm very familiar with Singer and I'm a big fan, though I don't subscribe to everything he says. Could you let me know approximately what the content is that you like or are interested in?|
One of my old students knows Singer and is in some kind of managerial role in the whole 'effective altruism' thing. I agree with the last sentence of your post.
|May-23-15|| ||kellmano: <shams> In regard to the article, don't you think it's absurd to say 'as a (white) person, you can't be the victim of discrimination because you are not a person'? Seems to me the kind of thing that allows the right to say that all talk of discrimination is horse.|
|May-23-15|| ||Donkey Cult: < Abdel Irada: "Exports," "net exports": Why do I feel another round of the Definition Game coming on?
Count me out.
|May-23-15|| ||ljfyffe: <diceman>Ah yes,...those whites who fear "acting black" because they will be accused of selling out their culture. There is nothing worse than a pushy white guy trying out for professional basketball. And, what's worse, he'll likely turn against the Republican Party in the process.|
|May-23-15|| ||Shams: <kellmano> <In regard to the article, don't you think it's absurd to say 'as a (white) person, you can't be the victim of discrimination because you are not a person'?>|
I do think it's absurd, but that's not how I read it.
(I wrote more and deleted it. It's Cracked.com, it's not worth parsing too closely. I think the "you are not a person" idea is a worthwhile viewpoint insufficiently discussed.)
As for Utilitarianism and Effective Altruism, I'm just curious why you support the latter (assuming you do) and not the former. Ok, you and Singer agree that it is tenable to do so and I'm sure you're right. But as a layperson they sound similar to me. And I suspect that most people in the Effective Altruist movement also identify as Utilitarian.
|May-23-15|| ||Shams: A short comic about privilege:
|May-23-15|| ||HeMateMe: <Jim Bartle>
What do you think of China's plan to build a railway across Peru, into Brazil?
|May-23-15|| ||HeMateMe: Excellent:
"The Dutch cabinet has approved plans for a partial ban on wearing the face-covering Islamic veil in public places including schools, hospitals and on public transport.
However, the proposed ban will not apply to wearing the veils on the streets, officials say."
|May-23-15|| ||Karposian: <HeMateMe> I wonder what the logic is behind banning face-covering Islamic veil on public transport, but not on the streets. It just doesn't make much sense to me.|
|May-23-15|| ||Jim Bartle: <hmm> Better than a highway, at least. But I very much it will happen.|
The problem with any road or rail through the rainforest is that it facilitates colonization, which leads to deforestation and depredation. Of course a railway doesn't offer the accessbof a road, but it is still worrisome.
|May-23-15|| ||devere: "Pamela Gellar and the Hijacking of America"
by Larissa Scott
<Jihadists drove a thousand miles to enforce Sharia blasphemy laws. The cop who shot them to death likely prevented a gruesome massacre. We are now being told that this would not have happened and everything would have been okay if Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer had stayed quiet and didn't make any stupid moves, such as, organizing the exhibition of Mohammed cartoons.
This is exactly the behavior of passengers on a hijacked plane. We hope that everything will be okay as long as we remain quiet and make no stupid moves. We willingly trust the voices on TV and hope the government will sort it out. We want to believe that every act of Islamic terrorism is an isolated incident, that they only target the government, and that the 58% of Muslim-Americans in a 2012 survey who think that that critics of Islam in the U.S. should face criminal charges, with 12% of them favoring the death penalty for blasphemy, are not part of a bigger phenomenon. Just stay quiet and nothing bad will happen. After all, no terrorist has ever hijacked and crashed an entire nation before.
Alas, nations have been consistently hijacked and crashed throughout history. This has always been executed according to the same blueprint, which originated in the 7th century Islamic conquests and is known to Islamic jurists as the Pact of Umar.>
|May-23-15|| ||devere: "EMPOWERED THUGS RULE: Baltimore Shootings Spike 70%, Murder Rate Up 42%"|
|May-23-15|| ||cormier: <<<<<<<<<<ACTS 2:1-11>|
When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled,
they were all in one place together.>
And suddenly there came from the sky
a noise like a strong driving wind,
and it filled the entire house in which they were.>
Then there appeared to them tongues as of fire,
which parted and came to rest on each one of them.>
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak in different tongues,
as the Spirit enabled them to proclaim.>
Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven staying in Jerusalem.>
At this sound, they gathered in a large crowd,
but they were confused
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.>
They were astounded, and in amazement they asked,
“Are not all these people who are speaking Galileans?>
Then how does each of us hear them in his native language?>
We are Parthians, Medes, and Elamites,
inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia,
Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia,
Egypt and the districts of Libya near Cyrene,
as well as travelers from Rome,
both Jews and converts to Judaism, Cretans and Arabs,
yet we hear them speaking in our own tongues
of the mighty acts of God.”>
|May-24-15|| ||HeMateMe: <JB> I don't think China cares much about deforestation, it's impact on global warming or it's effect on the rain forest species. The communist party leadership cares about increasing the economic might of China.|
<karpo> the ban on covering the face in public is part of the western socialization process. By being forced to see each other, we can better understand each other. There might also be a sub issue, that of preventing crime, as no one will be able to hide from random witnesses, strategically placed cameras and facial recognition software.
I think France has a similar law.
|May-24-15|| ||arifattar: "It's like Versailles"
Who owns London's most expensive mansion?
Brilliant long read
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