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|Oct-23-14|| ||Shams: People did LBJ? Huh. Sounds like a real hit at parties!|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Petrosianic: There are some speaking styles that are based on other characters, but not so much that they would be considered "Impressions". The Maxwell Smart Glick voice was loosely based on William Powell's Thin Man, but exaggerated so much that the similarity wouldn't register unless you were told about it.|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Jim Bartle: I think I saw someone do John Wayne once. And James Stewart. Of course the favorite on the female side was always Katharine Hepburn, or in Martin Short's case, her cousin.|
Sarah Palin has famously been captured twice, by Tina Fey and Julianne Moore.
|Oct-23-14|| ||Petrosianic: <Shams>: <People did LBJ? Huh. Sounds like a real hit at parties!>|
Yeah, speaking of Get Smart again, there's a great episode where John Byner (as a KAOS agent) taps into the Control Steerhorn phone, impersonating LBJ. A pretty good impression, too. Very breathy, back of the throat, and overflowing with trite cliches. "Quit flappin' your gums, Thaddeus."
|Oct-23-14|| ||Jim Bartle: <People did LBJ? Huh. Sounds like a real hit at parties!>|
Sure, they just walked into the bathroom without closing the door, and said "pecker" a lot.
|Oct-23-14|| ||ljfyffe: <Sham-><Focus><Bartle> Rich Little, as you likely know, is an Ontarioian, Canadian, who became a citizen of US about six years ago.|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Shams: <Petrosianic> It occurs to me that you'd be a good one to ask this, what with your affection for old-timey radio and tv programming. I have a theory that by and large the voice acting of today is much worse than it was decades ago, in part because nobody does radio acting anymore but that didn't used to be the case. Do you think I'm on to something there? By voice acting I mostly mean the vocal component of acting for tv and films. (The voice acting for cartoons is often great-- do you know H. Jon Benjamin?)|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Petrosianic: Yeah, there's probably something to that. With both radio and cartoons, you have to learn to put a lot more into your voice, because you can't count on mannerisms or visual cues to sell anything. At least in radio, people could see the people they were talking to, and try to act off them, but in cartoons, they may record everything separately.|
That's the way they did it in the Star Trek cartoon. People would just record their lines wherever they were, and mail them in. As a result, Captain Kirk sounds bored out of his mind in just about every episode, like everything he sees is too unimpressive to expend any emotion on.
For the Benny Show, Mary Livingstone started phoning in her lines in the last year (somebody else would play her at the recording, and they'd dub her voice in later). She did a better job than Shatner, but it threw her delivery and timing off noticeably compared to all the others, who were still doing it live. But then there are actors who do a great job with visualizing a person in front of them and acting off of the imaginary person, just because they've had so much practice. It does seem like doing a lot of radio and cartoon work can help make live action performances more expressive.
|Oct-23-14|| ||HeMateMe: I thought Rich Little was brilliant, but I'm old enough to remember seeing all of his foils on television, so his character sketches have meaning for me. He really is/was talented. His heir, I believe, is Jim Carrey who did stand up impersonations before developing a nice movie career.|
carey does clint eastwood:
Jay Pharoh was probably hired by SNL, at least partly, because he resembles Obama:
|Oct-23-14|| ||Shams: Jim Carrey's Jimmy Stewart is hysterical:
|Oct-23-14|| ||perfidious: The one Rich Little bit I recall is an impersonation from Hawaii Five-O which went: |
<Jimmy Cagney never said, 'you dirty rat', but if he had, he would have said it about you.>
|Oct-23-14|| ||HeMateMe: I think I saw that episode, as a kid. Doesn't Little play a gambler, in trouble with the mob, and he witnessed a murder, or something like that?|
|Oct-23-14|| ||TheFocus: <Jim Bartle> < That was probably at the 2007 White House Correspondents Dinner.>|
Yes, <Jim>. You are correct.
|Oct-23-14|| ||twinlark: <MarmotPFL> <Typical Aussie Amazon sale. We used to have much cheaper overseas surface mail, but it often took months to reach Australia and was discontinued.>|
Even with all the postage, Amazon is often the cheapest alternative. Abebooks franchise in Australia rarely has cheap books (of the kind I want, anyway), and the postage within the country can still be high.
|Oct-23-14|| ||OhioChessFan: I thought Rich Little was pretty redundant and all his voices sounded much too similar.|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Marmot PFL: <Even with all the postage, Amazon is often the cheapest alternative. Abebooks franchise in Australia rarely has cheap books (of the kind I want, anyway), and the postage within the country can still be high.>|
Looks like I sent 30 books to Australia so far this year. Mostly to the big towns, but some to places I would never have heard of, like Woy Woy, Sippy Downs, Mudgeeraba, Tarragindi and so on.
|Oct-23-14|| ||nok: <People did LBJ? Huh. Sounds like a real hit at parties!>|
|Oct-23-14|| ||Jim Bartle: That's a classic, the band coming in at just the right moment and the first line, "I should have quit you a long time ago." I think that record came out around the beginning of 1968 or maybe late 1967.|
LBJ doesn't appear in the best movie scene about him. In "The Right Stuff" he goes to the Glenns' house to be seen comforting Annie Glenn before the launch. Annie stutters and doesn't want Johnson or cameras. By phone in the capsule John Glenn tells Annie she doesn't have to let Johnson in.
The scene ends with LBJ's limo shaking and bouncing from his anger at not being let in.
|Oct-23-14|| ||chancho: Another Ebola case.
This time it's New York City.
A Doctor who treated patients in West Africa and who apparently thought was not a risk to anyone, went bowling, enjoyed the sights, rode the subway, was in close contact with his girlfriend and various friends....
Then his temperature started rising, he went to the hospital, and oh yes, Ebola.
Let's hope that it ends with him and no one else was infected.
Hope springs eternal, that kind of thing.
|Oct-24-14|| ||zanzibar: <twinlark>, <Marmot PFL> -- Yipes! That's expensive postage. At first I was thinking you must live in Antarctica, which isn't too far off the mark.|
Lots of interesting names mentioned.
I hope you like the book if you did buy it, I remember enjoying it. Here's a review comment from Amazon:
<<algo41> Palmer explains that he wrote this book because so many people he encountered were interested in what he does as a marine biologist. In truth it is a book about scientific curiosity and the process of discovery. I won't give away the ending, found in the last chapter. Had Palmer's objective been an exposition on biological clocks, the last chapter would have been first>
So I gave away the ending a little.
I miss the old days of Usenet readers, where you could have multiple threads going and easily read one or the other. Maybe a sub-thread here could be science books written for both the layman and other scientists. I think Palmer book would qualify.
Here's two others I enjoyed:
<The Same and Not the Same -- R. Hoffmann>
A great chemist, and a great lecturer.
* * * * *
<The Invisible Enemy: A Natural History of Viruses -- Dorothy Crawford>
Topical. She's written a slew of other popular books, including one of those currently fashionable "A Very Short" introductions. This was her first, and my favorite so far (I also read her HIV origins one <Virus Hunt>).
|Oct-24-14|| ||zanzibar: <<chancho>: Another Ebola case. >|
Yes, confirmed by NY Times.
<In the New York City region, hospitals and emergency workers have been preparing for the appearance of the virus for months.
Dr. Irwin Redlener, the director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University and a special adviser to Mayor de Blasio, said that the risk to the general public was minimal, but depended on the city moving swiftly.
“New York has mobilized not only a world-class health department, but has full engagement of many other agencies that need to be on the response team,” he said.>
|Oct-24-14|| ||zanzibar: Rich Little on Letterman...
has a few good zingers. (For a Canadian?! <ljfyffe> should be proud).
|Oct-24-14|| ||twinlark: <zanzibar>
<Maybe a sub-thread here could be science books written for both the layman and other scientists.>
We can talk about anything here.
The ones that have grabbed me were <Guns, Germs and Steel> by Jared Diamond attempting to explain the rise of Eurasia and especially Europe through geography, <Voltaire's Bastards> (kind of science, but admittedly very loosely so) by John Ralston Saul about the hijacking of rationalism, and <Discordant Red Shift Assocations> by Halton Arp.
The last mentioned tends to put the finger on another pressure point in cosmology, namely that physically linked objects can have completely different red shift signatures.
|Oct-24-14|| ||Boomie: <twinlark: <Discordant Red Shift Assocations> by Halton Arp. |
The last mentioned tends to put the finger on another pressure point in cosmology, namely that physically linked objects can have completely different red shift signatures.>
Since 1960, when Arp published this book, astronomical instrumentation has made huge strides. Using the latest data, there is no support for Arp's theory. Although those quasars appear to be associated with closer objects, they are really way in the background. They are just so bright that they appear to be closer.
|Oct-24-14|| ||twinlark: <Using the latest data, there is no support for Arp's theory.>|
Not sure it's that simple. Arp's ideas were never supported and it took years for any actual review of <Seeing Red> and <Discordant Red Shift Associations> to appear.
Check out the situation for Markarian 205, and say definitively that these are not linked objects.
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