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|Oct-03-15|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <HeMateMe: We need the oil, Mort.>|
At last, you finally admit it. Nothing to do with spreading of 'freedom' and 'democracy'.
|Oct-03-15|| ||optimal play: <HeMateMe> <Does New Zealand ever criticize Australia, or are you worried they'll give NZ a bare butt spanking?>|
Well, they're not very happy with us at the moment...
<Prime Minister John Key says he’s been “pretty blunt” with the Australian government over the way New Zealanders are being detained and deported.>
<New Zealanders have become the second-largest population in Australian immigration detention centres, beaten only by Iranians.>
So the only people more unpopular down here than the Kiwis are Iranian muslims!
|Oct-03-15|| ||HeMateMe: if we didn't' have the oil in 1941 Mort, you'd be speaking Japanese right now and working in an electric rice cooker factory.|
|Oct-03-15|| ||Colonel Mortimer: Oil is so important to America that the country with the largest oil reserves, a country that funded 9/11, is given diplomatic immunity.|
..and a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 (but has the 2nd largest oil reserves) gets destroyed by America.
|Oct-03-15|| ||perfidious: <HMM.....In an interview for a free McCartney concert in Moscow in Red Square, Putin was sitting down with Sir Paul and his then wife, the blond gold-digger who's name I can't recall....>|
Gold-digger and well-documented compulsive liar, Heather Mills be thy name.
|Oct-03-15|| ||wwall: She sued Paul McCartney for 125 million British pounds, saying he was cruel and was hiding his worth. She didn't have a leg to stand on and got 16.5 million pounds in a lump sum.|
|Oct-03-15|| ||al wazir: <wwall: She didn't have a leg to stand on>. |
|Oct-03-15|| ||perfidious: <wwall: (Mills)....didn't have a leg to stand on and got 16.5 million pounds in a lump sum.>|
One might say that, yes.
|Oct-03-15|| ||TheFocus: <Oil is so important to America that the country with the largest oil reserves, a country that funded 9/11, is given diplomatic immunity. ..and a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 (but has the 2nd largest oil reserves) gets destroyed by America.>|
"Welcome to U.S. Foreign Policy 101. If after this class, you don't understand it, then you are typical and still get a passing grade.
If after this class, you do understand it, then you have a promising career ahead of you with the U.S. Gubmint."
|Oct-04-15|| ||HeMateMe: mort doesn't understand that for a long time it was cheaper for the USA to buy foreign oil than it was to drill for our own.|
It's all over, anyway. In our lifetimes we'll probably see a new synthetic fuel developed that completely replaces gas and oil. Saudi Arabia will go back to being a camel jockey paradise. The broke, hardliner muslims will drive the royal family out of Saudi at gunpoint. It will become another Iran.
|Oct-04-15|| ||Appaz: An interesting article touching the subject I mentioned earlier about personal versus collective gains.|
"Why nice people finish last—and how to fix that"
|Oct-04-15|| ||ljfyffe: <HMM :what would you do? > First, have to do some research to find out if what many of America's paranoic politicians say is true: are there indeed commies and islamic terrorists hiding behind every sinlge bush in the USA?
If so this certainly requires "a well-regulated Militia ...necessary for the security of the State".
Better get those bazookas and cluster bombs packed into your basement beneath the bunk beds that you'vs set up for your minutemen before big government descends into your backyard in their black-painted helicopters.|
|Oct-04-15|| ||Jim Bartle: Nurse at Kunduz:
<The hospital, it has been my workplace and home for several months. Yes, it is just a building. But it is so much more than that. It is healthcare for Kunduz. Now it is gone.
What is in my heart since this morning is that this is completely unacceptable. How can this happen? What is the benefit of this? Destroying a hospital and so many lives, for nothing. I cannot find words for this.”>
|Oct-04-15|| ||john barleycorn: <HeMateMe: mort doesn't understand that for a long time it was cheaper for the USA to buy foreign oil than it was to drill for our own....>|
I do not agree that it was a matter of cost, only. The US policy (imo) always was that if engines stop and lights go out the US is the last state in the world where it happens. So they also treated it as reserve.
|Oct-04-15|| ||HeMateMe: I agree, we also didn't want to exhaust our reserves. It appears with fracking and new sources found, this is no longer relevant.|
Beyond that, the push for solar or geo thermal energy sources will eclipse the need for oil and gas.
|Oct-04-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " What God has joined together, let man not separate ! "|
|Oct-04-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Oct-04-15|| ||cormier: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<Medjugorje Message, October 2, 2015 - Apparitions to Mirjana
Mirjana during an apparition>
“Dear children, I am here among you to encourage you, to fill you with my love and to call you anew to be witnesses of the love of my Son.> Many of my children do not have hope, they do not have peace, they do not have love.> They are seeking my Son, but do not know how and where to find him.> My Son is opening wide his arms to them, and you are to help them to come to his embrace.> My children, that is why you must pray for love.> You must pray very, very much to have all the more love, because love conquers death and makes life last.> Apostles of my love, my children, with an honest and simple heart unite in prayer regardless of how far you are from each other.> Encourage each other in spiritual growth as I am encouraging you.> I am watching over you and am with you whenever you think of me.> Pray also for your shepherds, for those who renounce everything for the sake of my Son and for your sake.> Love them and pray for them.> The Heavenly Father is listening to your prayers.> Thank you. ”>
|Oct-04-15|| ||cormier: A dozen Pacific nations closed in on a sweeping free trade pact on Sunday in Atlanta after a breakthrough over how long a monopoly pharmaceutical companies should be given on new biotech drugs.|
|Oct-04-15|| ||cormier: As Israelis debated whether the string of recent attacks by Palestinians, which appeared to lack any orchestrating group, amounted to a third intifada, or uprising, Israeli political analysts said that Mr. Netanyahu would have to calibrate his response so that it would be effective without leading to further escalation.|
|Oct-04-15|| ||ljfyffe: <cormier>There are some 'literalists" who actually assert that men have one less rib than women to prove that the Bible is indeed literally correct; of course, even if one accepts that the story be taken literally and that Adam gives up a rib, this would not mean his male offspring would have one less too, ie if a male dog accidently loses its tail, his pups are still going to be born with tails.|
|Oct-04-15|| ||al wazir: "We" don't have a single national desire for more imports or for less. There is no single "we." |
Even with fracking we still import three quarters of the oil we use. Fracking is no longer expanding. At current prices some existing fracking sites are even shutting down because they are not profitable. If prices drop further we'll import more cheap oil from the Mid-East, not less.
Consumers want cheap cheap gasoline at the pumps and cheap home heating and cheap electricity from gas-fueled power plants.
Refiners too want to get oil at the cheapest possible price. They are the ones who argue that we should buy it from the Saudis, Nigeria, Venezuela and even Iran, while leaving the more expensive U.S. oil untouched as a reserve.
Conservationists and those who are trying to halt global warming want everyone to consume less fossil fuel. For that purpose the most effective strategy is to *raise* prices.
Extracting companies and the legislators that represent their interests talk about "energy independence": stop depending on foreign sources. That means exploring for oil on federal lands and eventually extracting it in the Arctic and other vulnerable offshore locations. (Similarly, the Longshoremen's Union and U.S. shippers want us all to use U.S. bottoms to transport freight instead of cheaper Panamanian-registered ships -- that's what the Jones Act is all about -- and I imagine U.S. growers likewise want us to stop importing cheap Mexican fruits and vegetables. That's called "mango independence.") Energy independence is also a popular concept with those who never heard of comparative advantage and would like to eliminate all trade with the rest of the world.
|Oct-04-15|| ||chancho: It appears like Donald Trump is proving the pundits wrong.|
This is more than <the summer of Trump>
He may very well go on to win the GOP nomination.
Now, can he actually win a general election?
|Oct-04-15|| ||Shams: <chancho> If Trump wins the nomination I'll compose a fifty-quatrain rhyming poem in honor of your political acumen.|
|Oct-04-15|| ||zanzibar: If Trump wins the general election I'll eat <SallySimpson>'s hat.|
(Well, maybe not Sally's hat, but some hat, let's say)
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Is the US capable of doing a fair investigation into the Kunduz MSF bombing?
Will it cooperate with an outside investigation?
Can such an attack be justified?
Here's some of CNN's latest reporting:
Looks like it was done with heavy caliber guns/cannons from a AC-130 gunship.
This Washington Post article suggest it may have been deliberatively targeted, somewhat similar to the Israeli attacks on hospitals in Gaza...
To not provide notification to the hospital to evacuate before targeting is just not acceptable rules of engagement imo.
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