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|Mar-08-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <Your source for this is what?>|
Well-documented many times on this forum. But you're not listening.
|Mar-08-14|| ||Shams: I have to say, in general I find <devere> to be fair and honest. But it's disappointing that he doesn't seem to respond to questions. I've now put several queries to him (fair and unloaded I might add) and I can't think of a single one he's acknowledged. Not that he owes me anything, of course, but I don't think he answers other people's questions either. There's no point in coming here if you aren't going to do the back-and-forth.|
|Mar-09-14|| ||PinnedPiece: <Colonel Mortimer: <Your source for this is what?>|
Well-documented many times on this forum. But you're not listening.>
I listen but unlike you I have a hard time swallowing propaganda. It would make you happy, I know, if I learned your techniques.
I can certainly learn swallowing techniques.
(I'm talking about pills, you pervert.) I daily consume the following:
1) 1000 iu Vitamin C
2) 2400 iu Fish Oil
3) 400 iu Vitamin E
4) 500 iu Vitamin D
5) 81 mg time release aspirin
6) 160 mg Diovan
7) 40 mg atorvastatin
8) Some memory pill whose name escapes me just now
I attempt--and often succeed-- to swallow all in one massive gulp.
Just like you and the devastating criticism of Israel that you read.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Shams: <PinnedPiece> In other words, you have no source for this:|
<To be an occupier of a territory, it has to belong to a legitimate societal governing entity other that the occupier's.>
This is straight out of the 19th century European/American land grab playbook. Speaking of propaganda, you should go back in time and write some. You've got the knack.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <PinnedPiece:> You post stuff that you can't back up with facts.|
This is just another instance. The whole world recognises the occupation, international law recognises the occupation, the USA recognises the occupation, Israel recognises the occupation.
<Pipi> DOESN'T recognise the occupation. And all he can come up with to back this up? I'm a propagandist.
|Mar-09-14|| ||valiant: <PP: (by contrast Norway needs no defense force, nor does New Zealand, and they pay virtually nothing for their defense, which is taken care of by the big boys patrolling the necessary waters)> |
Norway: "The military expenditure of US$7.2 billion is the highest per capita in Europé (2014)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norweg...
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: ^^Another <pipi> fail|
|Mar-09-14|| ||perfidious: <Colonel Mortimer: ^^Another <pipi> fail>|
<pipi> and fail, in the latter word's various forms, are inextricably linked.
|Mar-09-14|| ||PinnedPiece: Obama the poor speller. Doesn't deserve my RSPECT.
Geez did I miss the follow up posts from all the sharpies who have relegated Dan Quayle to the dustbin of ignominious spellers (and therefore politicians) for his "P-O-T-A-T-O-E" gaffe? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...
No, I didn't miss the posts. AmLibs are super-susceptible to propaganda from the left, who use emotional keys of blame, smears, lies, and ridiculo-tapes to win their "war of ideas*" against the right.
There aren't any posts here from AmLibs decrying Obama's very human and amateurish KSAs** in every walk of life, from knowledge of pronunciation and spelling, to healthcare, to knowledge of the makeup of the USA, to knowledge of how jobs are generated, to knowledge of how we have electrical power in the USA, to skills of diplomacy, to the attitude that makes America great, or the ability to bring us all together as he promised.
A noticeable lack of comment from AmLibs (American Liberals, a special breed).
Look, electing Barack Obama as president was equivalent to electing someone with even fewer KSAs than Dan Quayle.
In my opinion, of course.
____ ____ ---- ---- ____
* a euphemism; ideas = emotional responses
** KSAs = Knowledge Skills and Abilities, a trainer's term (an area of expertise I'm very familiar with)
|Mar-09-14|| ||perfidious: <Shams ....it's disappointing that (devere) doesn't seem to respond to questions. I've now put several queries to him (fair and unloaded I might add) and I can't think of a single one he's acknowledged. Not that he owes me anything, of course, but I don't think he answers other people's questions either.>|
This has generally been the case.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Softpaw: <Softpaw: devere: <The last pre-crisis poll I read of in Crimea showed only 41% in favor of independence. >|
What poll was that? Link please.>
<Softpaw: devere: <[Putin] blew up the apartment buildings full of Russians and blamed it on the Chechens>
Evidence, please. >
|Mar-09-14|| ||PinnedPiece: <valiant: Norway: "The military expenditure of US$7.2 billion is the highest per capita in Europé (2014).">|
Ok, somewhat respectable, since Europe as a whole can no longer afford to defend itself..... btw is England no longer part of Europe?
<Colonel Mortimer: ^^Another <pipi> fail>
I may have 1 out of 10 fail. But compare your 5 out of 6 fail. Who's winning here?
|Mar-09-14|| ||HeMateMe: Mort will be the first one to get on his knees and beg the USA for help if a militarized China ever invades New Zealand. I'm sure no one ever thought Japan, a small nation, could accomplish what it did in the years 1934-1943, before it was destroyed by the United States. In 1941 I'm sure no one ever thought Stalin's red army would somehow recover to the point where it would chase away the Germans and then occupy eastern Europe for fifty years. |
Stuff happens. When it does we help the crybabies, like the one in New Zealand, the little doggie always nipping at the calves of the pony.
|Mar-09-14|| ||HeMateMe: Primitive arab countries are scared of a Hollywood movie. |
But they can certainly be trusted with the technology to build nuclear weapons...
|Mar-09-14|| ||Shams: <HeMateMe> <Mort will be the first one to get on his knees and beg the USA for help if a militarized China ever invades New Zealand.>|
Yes, any day now I'm sure China is going to move on New Zealand. Might be time to give the Avalon Hill games a break, Napoleon.
|Mar-09-14|| ||HeMateMe: <I'm sure no one ever thought Japan, a small nation, could accomplish what it did in the years 1934-1943, before it was destroyed by the United States>|
|Mar-09-14|| ||HeMateMe: You can stick your head in the sand and trust everyone, or you can prepare for the worst.|
I'm glad you're not President, Shams.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Shams: So my alternatives are:
<1.> Prepare for the Chinese invasion of New Zealand, or
<2.> Stick my head in the sand.
Whatever shall I do.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <HeMateMe:> You're not right in the head - go and be an idiot in another village.|
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <pipi> <I may have 1 out of 10 fail. But compare your 5 out of 6 fail. Who's winning here?>|
Whoever makes up the numbers.
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: Just like a game of "Civilisation", <pipi> - who wins there? The one who plays in <cheat mode>.|
|Mar-09-14|| ||devere: <Check It Out: You are surely aware that the occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel is a breech of the fourth Geneva Convention, of which Israel is a signatory. You must also be aware that UN resolutions to remedy this are consistently vetoed by the USA.>|
I am aware that Israel has almost no political support in the world.
The 1949 Geneva convention does forbid the forcible resettlement of civilian populations, and the only violation of that by Israel I am aware of is when they forced their own people to leave Gaza. I don't suppose you are complaining about that, are you?
I am also aware that no nation named Palestine with recognized boundaries has ever existed, so there are no clearly demarcated "Palestinian territories" to consider occupied. In 1949, at Jordanian insistence, the cease fire agreement between Israel and Jordan contained a provision stating that either party was allowed to make future territorial claims against the other. Many, perhaps most, of the so-called Palestinians claim that all of Israel belongs to them, and there are also Israelis that now make similar claims about territory now occupied by Arabs calling themselves Palestinians. Israel now has agreed upon boundaries with Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon, but still has disputes with Syria and the Arabs calling themselves Palestinians. If they are ever able to make a territorial agreement with those parties, I am confident that the Israelis will keep it. But honestly I am pessimistic about the likelihood of any agreement, and think that nuclear war in that part of the world is now the most likely outcome. I hope that I am mistaken.
|Mar-09-14|| ||twinlark: Although I no longer stop and discuss politics at this page, I still occasionally follow the discussions.|
So when I Searched for the word "sniper", I found that there was no discussion here about the revelation from the leaked telephone conversation between the Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton that the snipers in Kiev had <not been placed by the former regime>, but by powerful elements in the <current> regime when it was participating/infiltrating(?) the protests in Kiev.
The killings were of course a major justification for the US and the EU recognising the new regime.
It didn't however explain why no one here has raised the subject that is so pivotal in contemporary politics and, I'm absolutely certain, in world history.
Is this the reason?
<U.S. Media Non-Coverage of the Urmas Paet – Catherine Ashton Sniper Revelation
By David Peterson
I just ran a search of the NewsBank database for what the database purports to be 3,253 U.S.-based media sources for the period March 3 – 7, 2014.
My search parameters were: sniper* and (Ashton or Paet or Estonia*).
Obviously, I’m interested in learning which U.S.-based media (non-blogs) have mentioned the story that came out on March 5 about a YouTube audio of the leaked recorded phone conversation between EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and the Estonia minister of foreign affairs Urmas Paet in which Paet told Ashton: “There is now a stronger and stronger understanding (in Kiev) that behind the snipers, it was not [ousted president Viktor] Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition.” 
For the results of this NewsBank search, see the Appendix, below.
NewsBank was able to find a total of <eight> items in the U.S.-based media that mentioned this revelation. A stunning example not only of non-coverage of an important revelation (the truth of which requires verification, of course). But of suppression of an important revelation, plain and simple.
Did no one here really know about this leaked conversation and its potential significance?
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <devere:> You're not aware of anything, not even your own ignorance.|
|Mar-09-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <devere> Educate yourself..|
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