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| Sep-23-05 |
| offramp: I think Oll looks like a young Jimmy Page. |
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| Sep-23-05 |
| Andoy: It looks like early years of Joe Perry... :-) |
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| Sep-23-05 |
| WTHarvey: Here are some crucial positions from Lembit's games: http://www.wtharvey.com/oll.html |
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| Sep-23-05 |
| rexeterna: Wasn't Lembit Oll "player of the day" a few months ago, too? What is the rotation for "player of the day" on chessgames.com? |
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Sep-23-05
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| chessgames.com: It's purely random. In the future we may make it predetermined based on birthdays or other historical events. |
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| Sep-23-05 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: Yes Oll was indeed POTD earlier (on August 5). |
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| Sep-23-05 |
| MoonlitKnight: Lembit Oll was a very strong GM, and was known to be a really nice person, so I guess he deserves the honour. |
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| Nov-03-05 |
| Runemaster: <chessgames.com><It's purely random. In the future we may make it predetermined based on birthdays or other historical events.> I don't know if this has been implemented yet, but it's a very nice idea. It would involve more work, but I hope it comes about. |
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| Dec-03-05 |
| DeepBlade: Too bad he commited suicide. If I take a look at his notable games, he had very solid play. He sacrifices for positional advantage, and he sacrifices again to launch a mate attack. |
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Apr-23-06
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| chessgames.com: We received an email from www.euruchess.org that we'd like to pass along -- <Today here in Kohtla-Jarve, Estonia, we're celebrating our sad jubilee - 40 years to GM Lembit Oll. Some references on our site: http://www.euruchess.org/cgi-bin/in... > (Links are in Russian.) |
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| Apr-23-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Lembit Oll
OLL, Lembit
http://www.bidmonfa.com/oll_lembit....
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Apr-23-06
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| vonKrolock: from that article linked above by cg.com <"It is sad, but history was repeated - Estonia again lost an amazingly talented player: Lembit Oll he put an end to himself 1999- at the age of 33, after jumping from the window of his apartment in Talin, on the 4th floor, like the personage of Vladimir Nabokov's novel "Luzhin's Defense" [ the author, who recover this similarity between Oll and Luzhin, forgot this improbable circumstance as the coinciding birthdays of Nabokov and Oll - on 23 April ]. He was therefore very young - the same as with Raud and Friedemann."> translation by Babelfish, slightly en-passant improved by myself |
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| May-22-06 |
| DeepBlade: :O
I just finished Nabokov's biografy...
I recommend it to everyone: Read Nabokov's books |
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| May-22-06 |
| offramp: I have always wanted to read Speak! Memory but it seems hard to get hold of. |
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| May-22-06 |
| DeepBlade: Speak,Memory is an exceptional book. It gives you great insight about life. It starts with page 1 and it keep you hooked. At a certain page he gives a chessproblem! (Yes, he was a problemist) The book Oll was effected by is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_De... |
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Aug-29-06
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| LIFE Master AJ: << The Estonian Junior championship, Lembit Oll Memorial took place in Narva-Joesuu, 15th-20th August 2006. Vladijir Onischuk won the event with 7.5/9. News: Marek Kolk. >>
--- Source: TWIC 616
(http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/twi...)
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Aug-29-06
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| LIFE Master AJ: I think I met Mr. Oll at a New York Open ... or maybe the World Open. (I have one chess book, it has like 70 GM signatures in the front.) I say a prayer for his soul ... and I also pray for his family, something like that must be very difficult to deal with. |
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Oct-27-06
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| Sneaky: You don't see many true artists in modern chess, but Lembit was a true artist. |
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| Oct-27-06 |
| OneArmedScissor: <Sneaky>
I completely agree.
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Nov-22-06
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| Richard Taylor: I (am pretty certain) met this man - he played in Auckland in the same tournament I was in and Miles was in it also - I think it was about 1992 - he didn't seem depressed - I think he said he was studying Logic - I remember that Miles suffered depression at one stage - I dont think it is anything to do with "genius" or Nabakov (maybe there is a connection - maybe there is a "romantic" element here) - although he is/was a great writer - I have read that book The Defence it was one of N's early Russian novels - he was separated and missing his children and I would say that can be very much a cause (if not agod reason) for suicide - potentially. Financial concerns are also common causes - so maybe it was his marriage problems and money. He was certainly here in Auckland NZ as Sarapu - NZ Champ - probably helped get him here as he was also from Estonia - but maybe there was another master or GM and I am maybe confused with him - but Oll was certainly here that time or near that date. |
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Nov-24-06
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| Jonathan Sarfati: <Richard Taylor> Oll was supposed to play in the Netway Masters round robin invitational in Auckland 1992, in which I played as well, so this backs up your recollection. But wimped out. Ian Rogers was brought in as a last minute replacement and was scathing about Oll's pusillanimity. Ortvin was very disappointed with his fellow Estonian. Sorry that he took his own life. That's always a tragedy. |
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| Nov-24-06 |
| setebos: It has been said that genius is akin to madness. |
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Nov-24-06
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| Richard Taylor: <setebos> It is nothing to do with that -read his bio - he had been through marital break/separation up etc
As many "non-geniuses" commit suicide as anyone else - suicide is not necesarily a sign of madness - sure it is a desparate act. <Jonathan Safarti> Yes - I heard similar from David Taylor - Oll may have been deprssed even then - I may have been talking to another IM from overseas -that guy was studying logic. I wasn't playing very good chess myself - I was also going through a separation and came close to suicide and even homicide myself at times - I was also drinking quite a lot - not playing much chess. So I understand how it can come about with women and children involved. And I am not a genius - this 'geniuses commit suicide' cliche is dangerous romantic nonsense. |
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Nov-24-06
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| Jonathan Sarfati: <Richard Taylor>: sorry to hear that. Hope everything's OK now. |
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Dec-21-07
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| Benzol: I'm doing a collection of the Netway Masters Tournament of 1992 in which he was suppose to play. In doing a bit of research I understand that Lembit Oll arrived in New Zealand from Australia with a cold. He was being billeted in NZ by Ortvin Sarapu. Apparently when he realized that he would have to score very heavily in order not to lose rating points he was not very happy. At the players meeting a proposal was made that he would play his games at a different time control so the games wouldn't be FIDE rated. The other participants weren't happy about this arrangement and Tony Miles apparently said if that happened then he would withdraw from the tournament.
Mr Oll then withdrew claiming illness.
It began to look like the tournament would fall apart. However, Ian Rogers stepped into the breach cutting short his holiday in the Australian Outback and arrived just in time to play in the second round and save the tournament.
Ortvin Sarapu wrote in his biography that he'd never been so upset during a tournament and it affected his results ( looking at them I can quite believe it ).
Mr Oll stayed for a few more days, mostly in his room and then bought a ticket home and left. Perhaps <Jonathan Sarfati> can throw a bit more light on this series of events as he played in the tournament and witnessed some of them firsthand. |
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