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| percyblakeney: President's Cup is being played in Baku, and in the first round van Wely lost with white against a 544 points lower rated opponent: [Event "3-rd Presiden Cup,Baku"]
[Site "Azerbaijan"]
[Date "2008.05.12"]
[Round "1.3"]
[White "Van Wely, Loek"]
[Black "Rahmanov, Shakhiyar"]
[WhiteElo "2677"]
[BlackElo "2133"]
[ECO "A84"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 f5 4. Bf4 Nf6 5. e3 Bd6 6. Nc3 c6
7. Bd3 O-O 8. O-O Qe7 9. c5 Bxf4 10. exf4 Nbd7 11. Qa4 Ne4
12. Ne2 Ndf6 13. b4 a6 14. Rad1 Kh8 15. Qa5 Ng4 16. a4 Bd7
17. h3 Nh6 18. Qc7 Nf7 19. Ne5 Nxe5 20. dxe5 Rfd8 21. Qb6
g5 22. f3 gxf4 23. fxe4 f3 24. Rxf3 fxe4 25. Bxe4 dxe4
26. Rf4 Be8 27. Rxe4 Bh5 28. Rdd4 Rg8 29. Nf4 Bf3 30. Re3
Bd5 31. Re2 Raf8 32. b5 axb5 33. axb5 Qg5 34. h4 Qg4
35. Rf2 Ra8 36. Ne2 Ra1+ 37. Kh2 0-1
http://www.chessclub.az/kubok3/inde... |
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May-13-08
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| percyblakeney: The pgn seems a bit strange, but the result should be correct. All the other favourites on the top 20 boards won, among them Korchnoi, Sokolov, Short, Milov and Jobava. |
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May-13-08
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| percyblakeney: van Wely won in the second round, where the surprise was Short's drawing with white against WGM Bela Khotenashvili (2333). |
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| May-13-08 |
| Billy Vaughan: Poor Van Wely. I wish him luck for the rest of the tournament :) |
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May-14-08
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| percyblakeney: Third round win for van Wely against Ojagverdiyev. One of the surprises was Naiditsch's loss with white against the untitled Nigalidze. Among the players with full points Safarli won against Beliavsky and Durarbeyli against Korchnoi. |
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| May-14-08 |
| SickedChess: I support this guy because his wife is hot! =)
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| May-14-08 |
| Billy Vaughan: I guess this is just giant-killer week ;) |
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| May-14-08 |
| sitzkrieg: Safarli, isnt that the cheater? |
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May-15-08
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| ahmadov: <sitzkrieg: Safarli, isnt that the cheater?> He is not cheating at the tournament... |
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| May-15-08 |
| slomarko: if i remember correctly Safarli is the guy who got caught cheating on playchess. |
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May-15-08
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| percyblakeney: Draw for van Wely against Turkan Mamedjarova (2271) in the fourth round. |
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| May-15-08 |
| slomarko: good result for Van Wely. |
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May-15-08
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| achieve: slomarko is a fool |
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| May-15-08 |
| slomarko: he lost against a 2133 the other day, drawing a 2271 is an improvement don't you think? |
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May-15-08
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| achieve: blehh |
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| May-15-08 |
| slomarko: what now? everybody can have a period of bad form even Van Wely. Turkan Mamedjarova is Shak's sister so probably she knows a thing or two about chess. its no disgrace to draw with her. |
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| May-16-08 |
| aktajha: True about Mamedjarova, but normally a former 2700 should easily win such games. Van Wely is totally out of form at the moment, lets hope he'll be better the next couple of games. If he goed on like this, I don't think Vladimir will take him as a second anymore. |
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May-16-08
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| achieve: Van Wely has even picked up Kramnik's laundry during Mexico -- so I believe he'll be very much needed in the Kramnik team, not only for chess technical but also for practical reasons... |
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| May-16-08 |
| zoat22: van wely is completely unreliable.... a few years ago he as always bouncing in and out of the 2700s and the top 20... hard to tell why this happens with him.. hell get back although he lost to a 2133 |
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| May-16-08 |
| slomarko: <achieve> i'm most puzzled by your comment. |
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May-16-08
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| achieve: <slo> Tell me which part is puzzling you. I'll be glad to lift anything that's unclear to you... I'm not kidding. Van Wely of course gave a private interview in Holland when he got back from seconding... |
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| May-16-08 |
| slomarko: achieve you wrote this:
<Van Wely has even picked up Kramnik's laundry during Mexico -- so I believe he'll be very much needed in the Kramnik team, not only for chess technical but also for practical reasons...> i don't understand what has laundry to do with anything. i mean surely anybody can do that, unless you meant that other seconds wouldn't do it. |
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May-16-08
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| achieve: <slo> It's just a bit of a joke -- but van Wely DID have to look after some personal Kramnik stuff - and added that he understood the pressure Kramnik was under - so thats why he took care of a few things unrelated to chess per se... Nice human gesture by The Wheeler don't you think? |
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| May-16-08 |
| slomarko: well yes but i don't think these nice gestures will help again Anand. if he was satisfied with Van Wely that we'll see in december if he'll be included in the team again. |
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May-16-08
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| achieve: <slomarko: well yes but i don't think these nice gestures will help again Anand.> What nonsense is that? I neither said it was chess related, nor did I say it was unimportant to Kramnik at the time. Of course Kramnik needs the best seconding there is available- but even more he will need to be strong OTB --- now if van Wely will have a role in that process next fall I don't know. He sure has his qualities, but if he will be picked again by Kramnik we'll have to wait and see. |
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