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|Aug-07-11|| ||DarthStapler: When I was young I invented an opening called the "Long Range Max Lange". Of course, this was before I learned it was pronounced like "Lang"|
|Aug-07-11|| ||talisman: happy birthday Max....Attack!|
|Aug-07-12|| ||Calar: Player of the day - Max Lange.
Does anyone know if he ever played Max Lange attack (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.0-0 Bc5) himself? Wikipedia says he suggested it in 1854., but did he ever play it?
|May-10-14|| ||ljfyffe: Max played Canadian John DeSoyres in Holland, 1903.|
|May-14-14|| ||ljfyffe: But not the Max Lange who invented the famous attack. Another Lange with the title of Dr.|
|Aug-07-14|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. Max Lange.
< Does anyone know if he ever played Max Lange attack (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.0-0 Bc5) himself? >
According to this database no (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...), but there were 3 games that contained the Max Lange Attack (Marshall vs Capablanca, 1910, Marshall vs Capablanca, 1910 and Marshall vs Capablanca, 1910) that had the event listed as < "th Max Lange (1910)" >.
|Aug-07-14|| ||ljfyffe: Max Lange analysed the line in "Deutsche Schachzeitung" (1854); however, I'm unaware if he ever played it over-the-board. Sorry.|
|Jun-26-15|| ||Morphischer: LMAO@ "Lange should not be confused with Dr. Max Lange"
[clicks link to Dr. Max Lange; sees same photo]
Damn, Chessgames, you're slippin'.
|Aug-07-15|| ||TheTamale: Wow. I had no idea Max Lange was such a distinguished looking gent. I'd shoot for that look myself, if I could grow a beard.|
|Aug-07-15|| ||eternaloptimist: <TheTamale> Lol he was styling & profiling! It's interesting that he suggested this move order back in 1854 according to Hooper & Whyld,: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max...
but the debut game in the CG database is an Urusov game.: S Urusov vs A Petrov, 1859
However, the CG database doesn't have all of Lange's games of course. 1 of the good things about it is the transpositional possibilities. U have a chance to wrong-foot your opponent b/c of that. 1 of these days I plan to play the Max Lange Attack vs a chess engine w/ a similar playing strength as mine. I'll start the position after I play e5. It looks like a fun opening!|
|Aug-07-15|| ||offramp: That looks like a hipster beard.|
|Aug-07-15|| ||Check It Out: Very much so. He wouldn't be out of place in Seattle, where hipsters spawn like rabbits.|
|Aug-08-15|| ||eternaloptimist: This is a very interesting game of his.: M Lange vs O Wuelfing, 1864|
|Jan-01-16|| ||zanzibar: I'm curious about his so-called "sabbatical" from ~1868-1883 when he essentially stopped tournament play.|
Does anybody have any info about why he withdrew from play - and what he did during those intervening years?
Also, why did he decide to return to tournament play in 1883, and for only one tournament?
Did other German players comment on these manners, or try to coax him to play?
And, I see a 1890 Alapin--Lange corr game was played. Are we sure this was Lange(1) vs Lange(2)? And if he did play some corr chess, why aren't there more games?
|Jan-02-16|| ||thomastonk: <zanzibar> Reading obituaries is often informative! Some of your questions are answered by the obituary in DSZ 1900, pages 26-29. There one can find a description of Lange's activities in and outside of chess.|
Neither the obituary nor the tournament book of Nuremberg (1883) gave a particular reason for his participation. I have not tried to find out why Lange stopped tournament play again, but please have a look at his result!
The corr game with Alapin has a certain story, which is relative well-known in the German reading circles. I try to make long things short. In 1892 Alapin sent a letter to 'Deutsches Wochenschach' about the
moves 1.e4 e5 2.♘e2 including some of his games. He praised 2.♘e2 as an original opening and emphazised his merits of being the first one who played it against strong opposition. Lange replied to this in an article in 'DSZ' 1892 (see pages 262-3); there he mentioned some sources from 1849/50 and he compared the value of 2.♘e2 to that of 2.♔e2.
The dispute resulted in the corr game, which was played from September 23, 1892 until September 5, 1893 (I changed the year already). Lange had to win, but Alapin tricked him already with 3.d4, etc etc.
Lange did not play corr chess often, but I have a few games from 1850 and one from 1861.
|Jan-02-16|| ||zanzibar: Thank you as always <thomastonk>. I'll have a look at the DSZ obit.|
The corr game makes for a good story, and a warning perhaps for over-pressing play during a game(?).
|Jan-04-16|| ||Phony Benoni: I found the following game at the Chess Archaeology excavations, published in the "Detroit Free Press" for June 10, 1859. No indication of source is given, but the game also appears in "Schachzzeitung, May 1859, p.171, with this caption:|
<"Gespielt zu Welhnachien v. J."">
Which translates to "Played for Christmas". I'm not sure about "v. J.", but if the "J." means "Jahre" (year) it might be an abbreviation for "previous year".
"Schachzeitung" gives White's full name as <"Herr M. Ludwig Lange">, and given the occasion it's easy to speculate it was played at a family gathering during the holiday season. But that's still speculation.
[Event "Casual game"]
[White "Lange, Ludwig"]
[Black "Lange, Max"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.c3 Nf6 6.e5 d5 7.Bb5 Ne4 8.cxd4 Bb6 9.Bxc6+ bxc6 10.Qc2 0-0 11.Nbd2 f5 12.Qxc6 h6 13.0-0 Ba6 14.Re1 Nxf2 15.Kxf2 Bxd4+ 16.Nxd4 Qh4+ 17.Kf3 Qg4+ 18.Ke3 f4+ 19.Kf2 Qh4+ 20.Kf3 Qxe1 21.Qxa6 Qe3+ 22.Kg4 Qxd4 23.Nf3 Qe4 24.Qe6+ Kh7 25.Bd2 Rae8 26.Qd7 Qg6+ 27.Kh4 Rxe5 28.Qg4 Qf6+ 29.Kh3 h5 30.Qd7 Rd8 31.Qxd8 Qf5+ 32.g4 Qxg4# Detroit Free ♙ress, June 10, 1859. Other data not given. 0-1
A stereotypical 19th century game.
|May-18-17|| ||RookFile: It's too bad this guy never played Morphy. I'm sure they would have had some interesting games.|
|May-27-17|| ||zanzibar: The Chicago Tribune included the following game in Lange's obit:|
[Event "Berlin - 1e Berliner Schachgesellschaft"]
[Site "Berlin GER"]
[White "Lange, Max"]
[Black "Dufresne, Jean"]
[Source "Chicago Tribune 1899.12.24"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Bc5 4.c3 Nge7 5.O-O a6 6.Ba4 d5 7.Nxe5 dxe4
8.Nxf7 Kxf7 9.Qh5+ g6 10.Qxc5 Kg7 11.d4 Rf8 12.Bg5 Rf5 13.Bxe7 Nxe7
14.Qa3 Nd5 15.Nd2 Qh4 16.c4 Nf4 17.Rae1 Rh5 18.Qg3 Nh3+ 19.gxh3 Rg5
20.Rxe4 Rxg3+ 21.fxg3 Qg5 22.Nf3 Qf6 23.g4 b5 24.Ne5 Qe6 25.Rf7+ Kg8
26.Bb3 Bb7 27.Ref4 Kh8 28.c5 Qe8 29.Rxc7 Qb8 30.Rff7 1-0
I used some info about the Berlin tournament given in EDO chess for the above.
I don't think this game is in <CG>, <365>, <CB>, <CT>, or <NIC>.
I also don't think it's included on this page (which has probably the more details about <Berlin (1853)>:
|Nov-15-17|| ||Jean Defuse: ...
The best know biography about Max Lange by Michael Negele:
|Dec-17-18|| ||Jean Defuse: ...
'Max's Christmas games'
see: Max Lange by Phony Benoni.
[Event "Casual game"]
[White "Lange, Max"]
[Black "Lange, Ludwig"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd4 7. O-O Nf6 8.
cxd4 Nxe4 9. d5 Nb8 10. Qd4 Nf6 11. d6 cxd6 12. Ba3 Nc6 13. Qxd6 Ne7 14. Ng5
Rf8 15. Nc3 Bxc3 16. Rae1 Bxe1 17. Rxe1 Nfg8 18. Bb5 h6 19. Ne4 a6 1-0
click for larger view
Weiß kündigt in dieser Stellung der Partie erzwungenes Matt in spätestens fünf Zügen an, deren Auffindung wir als Aufgabe stellen.
Source: Sonntagsblätter für Schachfreunde No. 9, 3.3.1861.
|Aug-07-19|| ||Nosnibor: Max Lange was supposed to have produced the record of games of the Cologne Master Tournament of 1898 but whether through ill health or some other reason he was unable to follow this through .However in later years some of the games came to light and approximately 75% are available
on the Tournament site. I understand there was some controversy that Lange refused to release them but this maybe supposition.|
|Aug-07-19|| ||MissScarlett: <.However in later years some of the games came to light and approximately 75% are available on the Tournament site.>|
What you talking about? 11th DSB Kongress, Cologne (1898) has only 48 games. Where are these 40 or so other games?
|Aug-08-19|| ||Nosnibor: <MissScarlett> Sorry this was a typo should have read 55%.Please don't get your knickers in a twist.|
|Aug-08-19|| ||MissScarlett: <Sorry this was a typo should have read 55%>|
~55% of 120 is ~66. So where are the ~18 other games? You better up your game, boy.
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