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Max Weiss
Number of games in database: 167
Years covered: 1862 to 1890
Overall record: +65 -29 =72 (60.8%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      1 exhibition game, odds game, etc. is excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (39) 
    C77 C67 C65 C70 C82
 French Defense (9) 
    C11 C14 C02 C00 C01
 Four Knights (7) 
    C49 C48
 Sicilian (7) 
    B34 B45 B24 B43 B25
 Ruy Lopez, Open (6) 
    C82 C80 C83
 French (4) 
    C11 C00
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (29) 
    C65 C67 C66 C82 C77
 French Defense (8) 
    C11 C00 C01 C13
 French (6) 
    C11 C00 C13
 Queen's Pawn Game (6) 
    D00 D05
 Vienna Opening (6) 
    C29 C25
 Ruy Lopez, Open (5) 
    C82 C80
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Blackburne vs Max Weiss, 1889 0-1
   Max Weiss vs N MacLeod, 1889 1-0
   Chigorin vs Max Weiss, 1882 0-1
   Max Weiss vs Chigorin, 1889 1/2-1/2

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   New York 1889 by suenteus po 147

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MAX WEISS
(born Jul-21-1857, died Mar-14-1927) Hungary (citizen of Austria)

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Max Weiss born 1857 had a short but brilliant chess career. He was 2nd= at Hamburg 1885, 2nd= at Frankfurt 1887 and 1st= with Mikhail Chigorin at New York 1889. He drew the subsequent play-off match (+0, =4, -0) to establish himself as one of the World's best players but then quit chess for a banking career. In 1895 he did play a match with Georg Marco and won (+5, =1, -1).

 page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 167  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Max Weiss vs Recsi 0-120 1862 Budapest (Hungary)C51 Evans Gambit
2. J Minckwitz vs Max Weiss  ½-½37 1880 Graz plof-1plC11 French
3. J Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½47 1880 GrazB06 Robatsch
4. A Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½21 1880 Graz-tmC25 Vienna
5. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½31 1880 Graz plof-1plC49 Four Knights
6. E Schallopp vs Max Weiss  ½-½51 1880 GrazC11 French
7. J Noa vs Max Weiss 0-150 1880 GrazC67 Ruy Lopez
8. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz ½-½23 1880 GrazC11 French
9. Max Weiss vs J N Berger  1-040 1880 GrazA91 Dutch Defense
10. Max Weiss vs J Minckwitz  ½-½44 1880 GrazB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
11. Max Weiss vs A Schwarz  0-133 1880 Graz plof-1plA03 Bird's Opening
12. Max Weiss vs Wittek  ½-½41 1880 GrazC48 Four Knights
13. Max Weiss vs Meitner  ½-½53 1882 Vienna itC70 Ruy Lopez
14. Winawer vs Max Weiss ½-½142 1882 Vienna itC13 French
15. J Noa vs Max Weiss  0-157 1882 Vienna itB20 Sicilian
16. J Mason vs Max Weiss 1-035 1882 Vienna itD00 Queen's Pawn Game
17. Mackenzie vs Max Weiss 1-041 1882 Vienna itD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
18. V Hruby vs Max Weiss  1-037 1882 Vienna itC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
19. Steinitz vs Max Weiss 1-036 1882 Vienna itC00 French Defense
20. Max Weiss vs Wittek  1-032 1882 Vienna itC77 Ruy Lopez
21. Max Weiss vs J Mason  1-038 1882 Vienna itC00 French Defense
22. Max Weiss vs Englisch  ½-½46 1882 Vienna itC49 Four Knights
23. Bird vs Max Weiss 1-028 1882 Vienna itC53 Giuoco Piano
24. A Schwarz vs Max Weiss ½-½49 1882 Vienna itD05 Queen's Pawn Game
25. P Ware vs Max Weiss 1-038 1882 Vienna itD00 Queen's Pawn Game
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Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-20-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  percyblakeney: Max Weiss (1857-1927) shared first place with Chigorin in New York 1889 (on 29 points, no small tournaments in those days) and was offered a match against Steinitz for the World Championship, but declined: http://www.endgame.nl/newyork.htm
Oct-15-04   Kean: An interesting player with another brief career in chess history. According with the supertournaments site, he also won latter the Kolisch Memorial in Vienna 1890, without a loss. "Then he concentrated on his work for the Rothschild Bank. His solid chess precedes the style of Marco, Schlechter and Maróczy" They suggest that a match against Steinitz would have seen the best positional chess of those years.
Aug-02-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Knight13: A strong player. Very strong player.
Aug-13-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: Giving up chess for banking career... Was that a Weiss move?
Aug-13-05   SneechLatke: This sure is a punny website.
Apr-19-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: It seems that Miksa (Max) Weiss also tied for first with Schechter in Vienna 1895. It was right Weiss wictory overy Marco. Other notable contestants included Englisch, Marco, Zinkl, Mendelbaum, Judd (US consul to Vienna), Schwarz, Halprin, Albin.
Apr-14-07   wolfmaster: Did anyone see the latest on Kasparov? He was fined for making an outbreak in Moscow about Russian politics. Brave guy,eh? :)
May-14-07   BNEW: Max Weiss in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_We...
Max Weiss in chessmetrics:
http://db.chessmetrics.com/
Look for Weiss Miksa
Jul-14-07   whiteshark: <Max Weiss> was !
Was ?
Dec-06-07   BIDMONFA: Max Weiss

WEISS, Max
http://www.bidmonfa.com/weiss_max.htm
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Dec-06-07   MorphysMojo: Not only was Weiss high rated per chessmetrics, let it be known that he had plus scores against 19th century greats Zukertort, Chigorin and Janowski, with even scores against Tarrasch, Bird and Winawer. Yeah, I'd say he deserves recognition! With only 167 games in the DB he gets overlooked for the wrong reasons. His loss percentage of only 17% puts him in excellent company!
Dec-06-07   whiteshark: Player of the day.

It looks as if he is widely unknown / underestimated. Wise decision to do banking biz. Should do some investigations in the near future.

Feb-24-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Knight13: He should've played in Hastings 1895. Then he would've gone down in chess history in a better picture.
Mar-13-08   wolfmaster: Weiss, I think, is the oldest player in the database with more draws than wins or losses. Interesting trivia.
Jul-21-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  brankat: An exceptionally talented chess player.

R.I.P. Master Weiss.

Aug-26-08   myschkin: . . .

Pen portraits of the participants in New York, 1889 were published on page 8 of the New York Times, 16 June 1889, under the heading <The Chessboard Kings - Ways and looks of 20 great players>:

"<Max Weiss> is one of the most careful and conservative chessplayers. In appearance he is a small-built man of fair complexion, very light brown mustache, mild, thoughtful eyes, and a well-developed, polished brow. With his hat on his head, and it is often there, hiding his forehead, he looks like a mild, easy-going German who takes life easily and knows how to enjoy both lager beer and a good cigar ..."

see sketch here (use your imagination):
http://www.c7c5.com/file.php?file=i...

Oct-22-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karpova: <Max Weiss (quoted in Lasker's Chess Magazine, Volume III):

“The poorest chessplayer is more to be envied than the most favored servant of the Golden Calf.”>

From Hans Ree's "Farewell, Jeroen Piket!", March 2003: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans8...

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