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| Oct-25-10 | | Namelesz: A pesar de que era un simple sirviente y de la clase baja. Él era un genio, así es como le describió el gran Capablanca. Que descanse en paz.
This man was a great player, "a genius" Capablanca said about him. His short career in Chess and the fact that he was illiterate is a true pity and it deeply agonizes me. What a waste of talent. RIP
Here you can find more info about this genius:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_Su...
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... Regards. |
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| Feb-07-11 | | montree: Truly a great legend of the game. Even as an illiterate his calculation and profound understanding of the game of chess, amazed top players of the world at that time. His whimsical 'master' seeing that he was becoming more famous than him, quickly returned to his native land, thus depriving the chess world to have more of this genius. |
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Mar-11-11
 | | FSR: It's criminal that FIDE never gave him even an IM title. He was one of the strongest players in the world during his short career, and surely deserved the GM title. He was probably stronger than Carlos Torre, another player with a short career from a Third World country, whom FIDE did award the GM title. |
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Mar-11-11
 | | parisattack: <FSR> Yes, he played some beautiful chess games in a short span of time. I think the only English language book is the one by Coles. If you just want the content, the recent reprint by HS is recommended. |
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Mar-12-11
| | FSR: <parisattack> Yes, I own and have read Coles' book. An extraordinary story. |
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Mar-12-11
| | parisattack: <FSR> Yes, now I remember you from my old Forum; sorry on that! I suspect you own the original BCM hardback, also. |
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Mar-12-11
| | FSR: <parisattack> I do, but you have nothing to apologize for. :-) |
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| May-31-11 | | SvetlanaBabe: "Minor Masters" don't beat the likes of Tartakower in matches and lose narrowly to Flohr. |
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| May-31-11 | | Sho: What has been Mr. Khan's legacy in India?
That is, all I've ever read about him seems to be from a western perspective. One would think that he would be the "Grandfather of Indian Chess" or something similar, but I've yet to read anything to that effect. How is he remembered at home? |
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Jun-08-11
| | FSR: For anyone who's interested - someone on eBay is selling Coles' book on Sultan Khan, which you don't see often: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Chess-B... |
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Jun-08-11
| | parisattack: <FSR: For anyone who's interested - someone on eBay is selling Coles' book on Sultan Khan, which you don't see often: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Chess-B...; Tough to find little book. HB but no DJ as issued as I recall. |
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Jun-08-11
 | | TheFocus: <FSR> and <paris> Got the Sultan Khan on my watch list. Just bought 7 Fischer books this weekend. No one bid against me. That rarely happens. |
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Jun-10-11
| | FSR: <Sho: What has been Mr. Khan's legacy in India? That is, all I've ever read about him seems to be from a western perspective. One would think that he would be the "Grandfather of Indian Chess" or something similar, but I've yet to read anything to that effect. How is he remembered at home?>
I have no idea, but he was actually from "British India" and the area where he lived is now (after the 1947 partition of "India" into India and Pakistan) in Pakistan. |
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Jun-10-11
 | | perfidious: <FSR: It's criminal that FIDE never gave him even an IM title. He was one of the strongest players in the world during his short career, and surely deserved the GM title. He was probably stronger than Carlos Torre, another player with a short career from a Third World country, whom FIDE did award the GM title.> When FIDE awarded their initial GM and IM titles in 1950, does anyone know what the criteria might have been? It is amazing that Sultan Khan never got a title. He was a tremendous talent. |
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Jun-10-11
| | FSR: Elo on page 65 of his book "The Rating of Chessplayers: Past and Present" says, "Selections were limited to players then living, but not necessarily currently active, and were based on subjective and, to a certain extent, political considerations." Eleven of the players awarded the Grandmaster title were from the USSR, 13 from other European countries, two from the U.S., and one from Argentina. I don't know whether Pakistan, a country only three years old, was even a member of FIDE, so Sultan Khan probably had no one to lobby for him. It would have been nice if the representatives of the other federations had said, "Hey, what about that Sultan Khan guy? Is he still alive? If so, he surely deserves a title.", but apparently that didn't happen. On the following page, Elo writes, "Death came too soon for some of the strongest players in history, who remain unrecognized by the international titles carried by other players ...." He lists Sultan Khan as one such player - but given that SK died in 1965, this is rather misleading. |
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Jun-10-11
| | perfidious: <FSR> This sentence by Elo from page 66 rather smacks of self-justification, near as I can tell. Let's see........27 players awarded GM titles in '50....that's Najdorf, Fine and Reshevsky as the three from the Western Hemisphere (can't really be anyone else, though it's odd that Kashdan didn't receive one), and most of the rest would also be obvious. |
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Jun-10-11
| | FSR: Self-justification? I don't know if Elo had any input into who FIDE awarded the GM and IM titles. FIDE didn't adopt the Elo rating system until 1971 or so, after SK was dead. |
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| Aug-09-11 | | Antiochus: 138 games him to download are here:
http://www.phileo.demon.co.uk/uk_br... |
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| Sep-02-11 | | Meister326: Mir Sultan Khan was a great talent who could play with anyone. Too bad he went back to India, because it was a loss for the chess world. |
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May-12-12
 | | PhilFeeley: <TheFocus: <FSR> and <paris>
Just bought 7 Fischer books this weekend. No one bid against me. That rarely happens.
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There are 7 Fischer books? I can only think of one. I guess you mean books about Fischer. Which ones? |
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Sep-01-12
 | | Karpova: While he won the British Championship at Hastings in 1933, the Women's Championship was won by Fatimah (also from India) - she won with <großer Überlegenheit>. From page 253 of the 1933 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung' Does anyone know something about her? |
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Dec-23-12
 | | samsloan: Do not blame FIDE or anybody else for this omission. Nobody knew where Sultan Khan was. He had just gone back to India with his master and had not been heard from since. Even his death was not reported in the news. Nobody in the world of chess even knew that he was from a part of India that had become Pakistan. Check the news reports from that time and you will see than other than an occasional question about "What ever happened to Sultan Khan?" there were no reports and nobody had any information about him, dead or alive. It was not until several years after he had died that we found out that he was dead. Sam Sloan |
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Jan-12-13
 | | kingscrusher: Sulthan Khan video annotation playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?ann... |
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| Jan-29-13 | | joegalby: there should be a great movie about this genius |
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Feb-27-13
 | | whiteshark: Photo: Chess champion of Great Britain, Mir Sultan Khan, plays 24 games simultaneous at the Empire Chess Club (London, 1931). http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot... |
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