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|Nov-01-17|| ||offramp: Poor Tigran certainly died much too young. If any of you have read <Cancer Ward> By Solzhenitsyn you'll be aware that Soviet scientists were ahead of the west in curing cancer. Solzhenitsyn was cured.|
I have said before that if Petrosian had lived and stayed healthy I am certain he would have out-Smysloved Smyslov and been rattling the Candidates' cages aged 64+. He had that special chess nous that is everlasting.
|Nov-03-17|| ||Howard: It's been noted about Petrosian that he was either a Candidate or the WC for TEN consecutive cycles (1952-1980). That record has never been surpassed. |
When he played in the 1982 interzonal at Las Palmas, he came fairly close to qualifying, but he didn't quite make it that time.
On a final note, I still remember that his death was briefly noted in both Time and Newsweek magazines. That actually surprised me a bit--just how many Americans back in '84 would have known who the hell he was?
But, I was more than pleased that his passing was noted!
|Feb-06-18|| ||todicav23: "Armenia honours its World Chess Champion Tigran Petrosian with a banknote. The likeness of the 9th World Chess Champion graces the new 2000 dram which has recently been issued for the first time in the country, as part of a new series of notes. "|
|Feb-06-18|| ||john barleycorn: stay away from strong magnets with that 2000 dram bill in your pocket.|
|Feb-06-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: <whiteshark: Quote of the Day|
< One must beware of unnecessary excitement. >
Well, judging from the photo, mission accomplished.
He looks like he's watching his house burn down...
|Feb-25-18|| ||tgyuid: maybe that was it; maybe he looked especially and particularly mean that day....|
|Mar-03-18|| ||offramp: Volkswagen has a new car out called the Tiguan. Do you know what it runs on?|
|Apr-22-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: Bobby Fischer said during the early 1960s that Petrosian would be the strongest player in the world if he played more boldly. |
Fischer also said that he liked the play of Petrosian more than that of Tal, Spassky or Botvinnik.
It may be that Fischer understood Petrosian better than most, as one could expect from Fischer.
It may be that Fischer considered Petrosian's play in the course of a game to be more in accordance with the true state of balance or the true evaluation of the position than the play of Tal, Spassky or Botvinnik.
It may be that in Fischer's opinion Tal was unsound, Spassky was over optimistic and Botvinnik was insufficiently flexible, to a degree which Petrosian was not.
|Apr-22-18|| ||RookFile: Sort of humorous, considering that Petrosian was the world champion for most of the 1960's and had a successful title defense. A Petrosian vs. Fischer match in 1966 may have been a toss up. Of course, we'll never know.|
|Apr-22-18|| ||perfidious: On the other hand, Spassky on top form was unable to overcome the only man to successfully defend the title with an outright match victory in a long stretch (after the Alekhine-Bogo rematch in 1934 until Karpov-Korchnoi '78).|
|May-09-18|| ||offramp: I have noticed that 54/55 is a worryingly frequent age for chess players to die. Is the word <mode>?|
If you are a chess player, and you can get past 55 and then 64, you are assured of a long life.
|May-09-18|| ||alexmagnus: Two World champions died at 53, two at 55, two at 64, one at 72, one at 80, one at 83 and one at 89. For a median of 64 and average of 67, if I didn't miscalculate.|
|May-09-18|| ||alexmagnus: Steinitz, 64, heart attack
Lasker, 72, renal infection
Capablanca, 53, cerebral hemmorrhage
Alekhine, 53, asphyxia
Euwe, 80, heart attack
Botvinnik, 83, pancreatic cancer
Smyslov, 89, heart failure
Tal, 55, upper gastrointestinal bleeding
Petrosian, 55, stomach cancer
Fischer, 64, renal failure
|May-09-18|| ||alexmagnus: Hemorrhage *|
|May-09-18|| ||offramp: When I said 54/55 I meant to include the Gregorian calendar, so that's 53 as well.|
But I'm not just talking about World Champions! I mean all strong players represented at chessgames, like the great Daniel Yarnton Mills.
|Jun-17-18|| ||andrewjsacks: Happy birthday to a worthy World Champion. We thank you for visiting and playing in the U.S. more than once.|
|Jun-17-18|| ||Diocletian: Tigran Petrosian. Prettiest name among the champions.|
|Jun-17-18|| ||Brain Gremlin: If Fischer hadn't walked out of the Sousse Interzonal in '67 he could have been the challenger instead of Spassky. I think Petrosian vs Fischer in '69 would have been a much more competitive match than Spassky vs Fischer in '72.|
|Jun-17-18|| ||ughaibu: Brain Gremlin: What's your argument for the implicit claim that Fischer would've beaten Spassky in the 1968 candidates?|
|Jun-17-18|| ||perfidious: <Brain Gremlin: If Fischer hadn't walked out of the Sousse Interzonal in '67 he could have been the challenger instead of Spassky....>|
Could have, yes; but by no means is it clear that Fischer would have, though. Spassky was on top form throughout that cycle and showed his class convincingly in demolishing Korchnoi in the final.
|Jun-17-18|| ||ewan14: Spassky was probably extremely tired by the 1966 match due to the number of games he had to play to get there|
And no pre arranged draws
|Jun-17-18|| ||ewan14: Fischer did play Petrosian in 1970|
|Jul-24-18|| ||PhilFeeley: Missing this game. I only found it covered partially in the book the Nimzo-Indian Move by Move by John Emms, and the full score in Petrosian Move by Move by Thomas Engqvist:|
V.Simagin-T.Petrosian, Moscow Championship 1950
1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 a3 4.Bxc3+ 5 bxc3 Nc6 6 f3 b6 7 e4 Ba6 8 Bg5 Na5 9 e5 h6 10 Bh4 g5 11 Bf2 Nh5 12. h4 f5 13 exf6 Qxf6 14 c5 Bxf1 15 Kf1 g4 16 Qd3 0-0 17 Re1 Nf4 18 Qc2 Nc4 19 g3 Qf5 20 Rc1 21 Qxd3 Nxd3 22 Rd1 Ndb2 23 Ra1 gxf3 24 Nh3 bxc5 25 Kg1 Nd3 26 Kh2 Rab8 27 Ra2 Rb3 28 dxc5 e5 29 g4 e4 30 g5 e3 31 gxh6 exf2 32 Nxf2 Nxf2 33 Rxf2 Kh7 34 Rd1 Rf7 35 c6 d6 36 Rd3 Rb2 37 Kg3 Rxf2 38 Kxf2 Ne5 39 Rd4 Nxc6 40 Ra4 Kxh6 0-1
None of the big databases had it (Megadatabase, Hirarcs) Weird.
|Jul-24-18|| ||Granny O Doul: Tigran Petrosian = "RATING IS NEAR TOP".
Or: "GOT PAIN? RESTRAIN!"
|Aug-10-18|| ||Howard: It's worth noting that Petrosian died 34 years ago this Monday (August 13). I was living in Wisconsin at the time, and still remember rather vividly seeing it in the paper.|
One thing I thought was actually rather touching was that both Newsweek and Time magazines, also noted this death! How many Americans would have recognized Petrosian's name?! But, I was more than pleased that they gave notice of his premature passing, at 55.
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