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| Feb-07-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: I've never heard of king "Evilmeradoch." However, I have heard of "Evilmerodach." Wasn't he the son of a biblical king? What did he have to do with chess? I think there is this story about him having to do with the creation of chess, but I'm pretty sure it was a myth. You must be joking. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| ughaibu: Chaturanga is generally considered to be the earliest "chess" but there's also an arguement that the earliest form was closer to mak ruk. I imagine there were a lot of intermediary earlier forms that have been lost. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| S4NKT: Well I'm not sure about the setting being ancient greece and you may be correct in the kings name being Evilmerodach, I'll have a look next time I'm at the library. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| S4NKT: Go is older than chess too. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: ughaibu, I remember that argument about mak ruk, has anything come of it recently, or is it still a speculation? They do share characteristics. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| ughaibu: You'll have to give me a few days on that. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: Lol ughaibu, you don't have to go to a library and research or anything, I just wanted to know if you already happened to have the information on hand. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| ughaibu: There's a friend who is as likely as anyone to be up to date and I have to contact him on another matter sometime next week so no problem. |
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| Feb-07-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: Thanks, that should be interesting. |
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| Feb-08-04 |
| PinkPanther: <Benjamin Lau>
The chess that sprung up in India and the chess being played today are far different entities...and I'm sure back in ancient India it was called something different, so let's just stick with the English word, "chess", and refer to the game we play as "chess", ok? |
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| Feb-08-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: PP, they're not that different. They're so close in fact that in the early 1900s Nimzowitsch and the hypermoderns borrowed the idea of the fianchetto from "Indian Chess," where the fianchetto had been standard practice for a long time. The point is that there really is no *essential* "chess" which you're searching for. |
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| Feb-08-04 |
| ughaibu: The word "chess" is said to be derived from "shah" via the French "eschec" likewise Arabic "shah mat" to Old French "eschec mat". |
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| Feb-08-04 |
| clendenon: Evilmerodach king of Babylon 2kings 25:27 |
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| Feb-12-04 |
| S4NKT: ughaibu > I checked and amongst the 17 shogi variants in the program it didn't have kyoto-shogi or renge-shogi. I noticed something while playing my shogi program that you can checkmate the opposing king while in check, is that a bug in the program or can you do that in shogi? |
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| Feb-12-04 |
| S4NKT: clendenon > yes, thanks. |
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| Feb-12-04 |
| ughaibu: S4NKT: There's no "check" in shogi, a king can be captured. |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| S4NKT: well in my shogi program is says "white/black is in check" and you have to move your king. When it says "white is in check" and I'm playing white and checkmate then I win.. but I guess according to what you just said then black would just take white's king and win or? |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| ughaibu: I would guess it's a bug but you could try taking the king. |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| S4NKT: well you can't take the king in the program, you can only checkmate, which is basically the same thing, do people take eachothers kings in shogi? why doesn't the opposing player just give up when his king will be taken on the next move? The rules in all the chess blitz tournaments that I participate in are that you don't say check and if the opponent doesn't see check then you can take his king and win, I don't know whether this is an international blitz rule I not, I do find it slightly annoying however, sometimes I lose games because I miss a check.. |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| ughaibu: In professional play it's a loss to leave the king in "check", at amateur level it gets taken. Naturally a player will resign if they're "checkmated". |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| S4NKT: I don't think it's a loss, it's an illegal move, and the opposing players gets time added to their clock (this is at least what happens in my club, which I guess is professional since there's a few 2500 players). |
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| Feb-13-04 |
| ughaibu: In shogi an illegal move loses, quite different from chess where an illegal move is impossible. |
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| nasmichael: I did not know that.
Important to know-- |
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| Mar-14-04 |
| ughaibu: Habu was among the winners in the recent 16th "Japan best dressed eyes". There's a nice photo in the January issue of Shougi Sekai with Habu on stage with the six co-winners, including a pro-wrestler and an actress. |
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| Sep-30-04 |
| tacticsjokerxxx: I saw an entertaining game between Yoshiharu and Taimanov, Yoshi lets Taimanov capture a hanging knight just to manouvere his other knight to f6 and deliver check, however this achieves nothing, the game ended in a draw, however during two points in the game Taimanov had mate in 6!, too bad it's not here. Anyway Yoshi's a cool player. |
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