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| weltschmertz: polgar is poison. |
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Jun-07-09
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| sisyphus: Paul Truong is not a candidate for election. Neither is Susan Polgar. Sam Sloan is, though I find it hard to get past his felony conviction. His suit against USCF was dismissed. What I really object to is the sleazy use of the USCF website to promote deliberate distorsions in the service of Bill Goichberg's personal agenda. The claim by his employee -- the executive director Mr. Hall -- that they are forced to cut office hours because of legal actions by certain board members is political propaganda, carefully timed to influence the election. It makes no mention of the ongoing suit by Cybercafes, LLC, against USCF, because the Federation violated its contract. That's why the book and equipment sales operation ceased operation during April, and they had to find a new vendor. It makes no mention of the two suits filed by USCF against Susan Polgar, the first of which predates the action which she was compelled to take in response. If it were up to me, I'd give Mr. Hall a permanent furlough. Bill Goichberg and his cronies are incompetent, dishonest, or both. Take your pick. |
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Jun-08-09
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| HeMateMe: Will the USCF go Chapter 13 or get an Obama bailout? |
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| Jun-19-09 |
| CapAnson: Because they're the only game in town.. perhaps a group (well funded preferrably) could start an ACA (American Chess Association) or a competitor.. take corporate sponsorship, charge lower fees.. better prizes for the top players.. Susan could even join it and not sue it into bankruptcy.. Everyone would be happy... well I can dream anyway. |
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Jun-20-09
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| HeMateMe: You mean, a chess organization that could take on the functions of a national association, without the legal responsibilities of representing the United States? |
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Jun-22-09
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| Fusilli: When are the board elections? I thought they were in June, but I haven't gotten any ballot in the mail yet (I moved, though, and I took weeks before communicating my new address to the USCF). I don't see any link to it on the USCF home page. Or did the elections happen already? Also, who are pro-Goichberg candidates and who are pro-Polgar candidates? Can someone enlighten me? Thanks. |
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Jun-22-09
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| Boomie: Although I suppose all this legal discussion is needed at some level, what is important to me is US chess has lost a huge resource in Susan Polgar. She has worked tirelessly for chess education in our schools. Now for whatever reason, she's gone. And most likely she won't come back. That's the only important aspect of this mess. Who cares if the USCF folds? I don't. Polgar has accomplished more in less time with fewer resources than the USCF. Now who will bring chess to our children? |
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Jun-22-09
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| JaneEyre: <While I don't deny that Susan Polgar has done a lot for the promotion of chess...> And vice versa. |
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| Jun-22-09 |
| Petrosianic: <Although I suppose all this legal discussion is needed at some level, what is important to me is US chess has lost a huge resource in Susan Polgar. She has worked tirelessly for chess education in our schools. Now for whatever reason, she's gone.> In what sense is she gone? |
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Jun-22-09
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| MaxxLange: <Who cares if the USCF folds? I don't.> that's....astounding. Who needs a national federation or rated tournaments, we have simuls for kids in a shopping mall! |
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Jun-22-09
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| MaxxLange: I mean, promoting chess to kids is great, don't get me wrong, but where do they go once they've decided they are really interested? What about when they grow up? |
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Jun-22-09
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| HeMateMe: I wish Bill Gates or Oprah would get into chess promotion--two people with smarts and killer instinct, very market savy. Not to say that U.S.C. Board members aren't smart, but it just seems that they all dislike each other and nothing gets done. What if the Federation were run more along the lines of a corporation? A CEO with ultimate authority has control, and you either make money or accomplish whatever other goals are required, or you are probably going to lose control of the enterprise. Look how well that ego head Donald Trump has done with the Miss America Pageant and that Apprentice TV show. Like him or not, The Donald knows how to "move the merch." What if someone like that were running the USCF? Maybe someone like that former head of HP Packard, a woman, who was recently fired? Or maybe a successful sports executive, like Rick Pitino? |
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Jun-22-09
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| Boomie: <MaxxLange: <Who cares if the USCF folds? I don't.>
that's....astounding. Who needs a national federation or rated tournaments, we have simuls for kids in a shopping mall!> Naturally another organization would assume the responsibilities. I just don't think the problems with the USCF can be fixed from the inside. It should be razed and rebuilt. |
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Jun-22-09
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| MaxxLange: lol, Carly Fiona,the fired head of Hewlett Packard ,would fit in great at the USCF - big talk, lots of compensation for the "executives", and terrible results running it like a big business is what has led us to this pass. it's not a business, it is not there to make a profit. it needs people who care about chess, not more mediocre business people who want a 6 figure salary and waste all our money |
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Jun-22-09
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| Boomie: <Petrosianic: <Although I suppose all this legal discussion is needed at some level, what is important to me is US chess has lost a huge resource in Susan Polgar. She has worked tirelessly for chess education in our schools. Now for whatever reason, she's gone.> In what sense is she gone?>
In the sense that she hasn't posted here or on her own Web sites since this mess began. By gone I meant inactive but it comes to the same thing really. |
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Jun-22-09
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| MaxxLange: <Boomie> that's a serious position: it 's already too late to save the USCF, let's get busy creating the successor. stop throwing good money after bad |
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Jun-22-09
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| MaxxLange: <she hasn't posted here or on her own Web sites since this mess began> if you ever are involved in a lawsuit, the first thing your lawyer will tell you is to shut up. Ms. Polgar is pretty much not free to just show up on web forums and make her case. while the court cases are active. So, I do not hold her absence here against her at all, that is just how it works. She is communicating only through like one specific venue, her own site, and I bet everything she says about USCF is all lawyer-iffic....she can campaign, but can't discuss specific allegations, that kind of stuff what a disaster |
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Jun-22-09
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| Boomie: <MaxxLange: <Boomie> that's a serious position: it 's already too late to save the USCF, let's get busy creating the successor. stop throwing good money after bad> I think the most important point is the new organization must be a non-profit. That should guarantee that everyone involved is genuinely interested in chess for its own sake. |
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Jun-23-09
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| Boomie: <Boomie: <Petrosianic: <Although I suppose all this legal discussion is needed at some level, what is important to me is US chess has lost a huge resource in Susan Polgar. She has worked tirelessly for chess education in our schools. Now for whatever reason, she's gone.>
In what sense is she gone?>
In the sense that she hasn't posted here or on her own Web sites since this mess began. By gone I meant inactive but it comes to the same thing really.> Oops. Susan is active on her blog. My bad. On this page (near the bottom) she explains her choices for the USCF Executive Board. http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/ |
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Jun-23-09
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| AnalyzeThis: <Now who will bring chess to our children?> Who cares? Lasker himself said that chess isn't that important. |
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Jun-23-09
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| Ken MacGillivray: <AnalyzeThis> <Who Cares? Lasker himself said chess isn't that important> Well i can tell you that i care very much about chess; and if you don't care then why the hell do you spend so much time on this chess site. Over 1700 kibitzes in under 12 months; you've got to be kidding. |
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Jun-23-09
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| acirce: Chess isn't important in itself. Chess is important <to us> because we love it, but I know of no particularly good reason that we should act like enlightened Christian missionaries and bring this wonderful new game out to the heathens. |
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Jun-23-09
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| whiskeyrebel: Yes acirce, I care about chess for proper selfish reasons and not because it's "good for the kids" or for some other fist pumping reason. If chess organizations do their jobs properly from Kirsan on down the line to the embattled USCF, the kids who really get it will be there along with the rest of us. If I ran the USCF, I'd cater to present enthusiasts first and then potential scholastic recruits. I could be lynched for revealing this opinion in some U.S. chess circles of course. I hope for your sake the situation is better in Sweden. |
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Jun-24-09
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| Fusilli: <whiskeyrebel>... I presented an argument along the lines of your post to Jerry Nash, scholastic director of the USCF. His reasoning is that scholastic chess promotion can popularize chess by, among other things, making a case for the usefulness of chess as a tool for the development of critical thinking. Once that has been accomplished, he argues that it will be easier to get sponsors for various chess activities, including those that cater to regular adult chess enthusiasts. This includes international GM-level tournaments, which in the U.S. are so scarce because of both lack of sponsorship and being so expensive (higher organizing/travel/lodging costs than in Europe, for example). In principle, I share your philosophy (and <acirce>'s), but Jerry Nash's defense of scholastic chess did sound persuasive to me. |
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| Jun-27-09 |
| kramputz: Here is a question to all USCF members:
"Do you think there is too much wasted space in Chess Life magazine?"
Too many large pictures,worthless interviews,full page unpaid (self published) advertisements etc.
Very bad typesetting, with all brown, hard to read type and brown backgrounds. |
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