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|Sep-29-11|| ||Jim Bartle: Yes, well there was that. The players they buy do have to play, though. Josh Beckett, for example. Your very expensive ace just can't give up six runs in the second-to-last game of the season.|
|Sep-29-11|| ||WannaBe: Lackey, after leaving the Angels was never 'quite the same'. Money made him complacent?|
|Sep-29-11|| ||WannaBe: 1 in 278 <MILLION>! http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...|
|Sep-29-11|| ||WannaBe: 'Really' tough trivia question here...
In 2011, BoSox have a record 77-1 if they have the lead after 8 full innings.
Which game did they not win after having the lead after 8 full innings?
|Sep-29-11|| ||technical draw: <Which game did they not win after having the lead after 8 full innings??|
Um, their last game?
|Sep-29-11|| ||WannaBe: Congratulations to <technical draw>, you have won a year's supply of Rice-o-Roni!! (Two boxes worth, that is a year's supply for a rabbit. =)|
|Sep-29-11|| ||technical draw: And I WILL claim my two boxes....|
|Sep-29-11|| ||WannaBe: <technical draw> Please submit form 1040TD to:|
1 Wabbit Hole, Warner Brothers Studio, Hollywood, CA 91522
To expidite your award, please also enclose a check for $20.00 for S & H.
|Sep-29-11|| ||technical draw: Thanks, I will submit everything today. And while I'm at the post office I'll send the $1,000 to claim my Nigerian gold. Lucky me!|
|Sep-29-11|| ||Phony Benoni: The question of wealthy teams stockpiling the most highly rated players is hardly something limited to sports. Indeed, is it not part of the American Dream to gain experience and knowledge in order to move on to more lucrative positions? It's brought into a higher profile in sports by the sheer size of the salary, but is really no different from Big City Law Firm hiring the young hotshot from Mom & Pop's Family Law Firm and General Store.|
In the end, it's not the best players but who play the best. And I sometimes wonder if baseball executives get the most pleasure out of simply collecting their specimens and outdoing their rivals.
"Here's a exquisite piece I picked up from Oakland. A five-tool switch-hitting centerfielder, not yet 30 years old!"
"Marvelous! It makes me wish I had spent my money more wisely than just winning the World Series."
"You must get your priorites straight; whoever dies with the most free agents wins. But there's even more! Look at this marvelous stripe down the back!"
"What's more, it changes color to yellow whenever Fall comes! Why, with a team full of players like this, who knows what we can accomplish!"
|Sep-29-11|| ||Jim Bartle: Talking about Carl Crawford again?|
|Sep-29-11|| ||Phony Benoni: I expect him to be making a Miller Lite commercial with Bill Buckner any day now.|
All the buzz around Detroit last winter was getting either Adam Dunn or Carl Crawford in the Free Agent Garage Sale. Instead, the Tigers disappointed all their fans by taking the relatively unheralded Victor Martinez.
Oh, did they ever do the right thing! Martinez hit .330 with 103 RBIs, and help set up Miguel Cabrera's big season by hitting behind him.
We haven't talked much about Adam Dunn around here, but his season was historically bad. I mean all-time historically bad. In 122 games as the White Sox DH, he had 11 HR, 42 RBIs, 177 strikeouts, and a batting average of .159.
|Sep-29-11|| ||Shams: <In 122 games as the White Sox DH, he had 11 HR, 42 RBIs, 177 strikeouts, and a batting average of .159.> |
With numbers like that, I'm sure our beloved GM Jack Z will be working the phones all offseason to swing a deal for him. The man was clearly born to be a Mariner.
|Sep-29-11|| ||OhioChessFan: <PB: It's brought into a higher profile in sports by the sheer size of the salary, but is really no different from Big City Law Firm hiring the young hotshot from Mom & Pop's Family Law Firm and General Store.>|
Again, the sports teams <need> their competitors, whereas Big City wouldn't mind eliminating their competitors.
|Sep-29-11|| ||OhioChessFan: The White Sox sat Dunn the last 2 games to avoid him getting enough plate appearances to qualify for season records.|
|Sep-29-11|| ||Shams: <OCF> Well that was kind of them. But don't we put asterisks in record books now? Whoever holds the current record might have a slight grievance if Adam Dunn's standout performance is lost to history.|
|Sep-29-11|| ||Jim Bartle: PB: Was there no chance for the Tigers to hold onto Granderson? He had a heck of a season with NY.|
|Sep-30-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <JB> It wasn't really a matter of not being able to hold on to Granderson, but simply some horse trading.|
The Tigers gave up Granderson and an fairly good starting pitcher in Edwin Jackson. In return, they got (a) Austin Jackson, basically Granderson without power and possibly even better in the field; (b) Max Sherzer, a solid #3 starter who won 15 games this year; (c) Phil Coke, a strong set-up man in the bullpen; (d) Daniel Schlereth, a useful left-handed option in the bullpen. In short, they gave up some offense (of which they had plenty) to shore up the pitching staff.
Not everybody was happy with giving up Granderson, but his game is built for Yankee Stadium; there's no way he would hit 40 home runs in Detroit. He remains popular here; when the Yankees come in for game three, there won't be much booing for him.
|Sep-30-11|| ||WannaBe: Now that Ozzie is in Florida, this commercial will be 'fitting' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki6R...|
E. Jackson, when he was w/ the Dodgers, he was a flash in the pan...
So he pitched a 60-walk no hitter. How many pitchers have had a no hitter/perfect game and is not in the Hall. Or never ever mentioned again.
Besides what's-his-name that pitched back-to-back no-hitters that everyone talks about?
|Sep-30-11|| ||Jim Bartle: My mistake with Granderson. I'd thought he'd just signed as a free agent with the Yankees. And I see that though he had a great year in 2011, he wasn't so great for NY in 2010.|
|Sep-30-11|| ||keypusher: I've kept track of Dunn with a sort of horrified fascination this year. The link below does a good job of putting his season in perspective. He made Rob Deer look like Ty Cobb...or at least 2011-edition Derek Jeter.|
<Dunn's season was worse offensively than pretty much anyone from the Year of the Pitcher, 1968, and he broke other records that had stood for seven decades....Dunn also was 6-for-94 -- .064 -- against LHP this year with 39 strikeouts. Probably half the right-handed-hitting pitchers on the White Sox could have done better than that.>
<PB> Nice to hear about Granderson. Seems like a very good guy.
|Sep-30-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <JB> Looking at Granderson's career, his 2011 numbers aren't that shocking. He once hit 30 HRs for the Tigers at Comerica Park, which is probably equivalent to a left-hander hitting 40 at Yankee Stadium.|
His career year before 2011 was 2007, with a .302 average, 38 doubles, 23 triples, 23 home runs, 26 steals. His average in particular tailed off after that.
Also, in Detroit he was always the lead-off man, more or less by default, and was not able to realize his RBI and power potential. The Yankees gave him a chance to do that this year.
Austin Jackson is still just a second-year player, with all the tools and plenty of time to develop. But even so, it was a good trade for all three teams involved; Arizona got a pitcher named Kennedy from the Yankees who is an NL Cy Young candidate this year.
|Sep-30-11|| ||technical draw: Wow, I didn't realize it was THIS close:
<The Red Sox were one strike away from winning and the Rays were one strike away from losing..>
|Sep-30-11|| ||Jim Bartle: <The Red Sox were one strike away from winning and the Rays were one strike away from losing..>|
As the philosopher Yogi once said...
|Sep-30-11|| ||Phony Benoni: "It ain't over until the fat lady leaves the building on Elvis' arm."|
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