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|Jul-03-12|| ||WannaBe: Only if you had read 5 more pages, instead of flirting with the waitress...|
|Jul-04-12|| ||WannaBe: Potential perfect-o between the Baltimore O's and Seattle M's. Through 6 and half innings.|
|Jul-04-12|| ||WannaBe: Woudn't you know it, some idiot have to make a post, and jinx it. |
Second batter up, in the (bottom of) seventh, hits a solo-homer, gone is the perfect-0, no-hitter, and the shut-out.
All that's left is the W.
|Jul-04-12|| ||OhioChessFan: Here is a picture of Wei-Yin Chen after the game:
|Jul-04-12|| ||playground player: I grew up watching baseball on TV, so that's what I was used to. Going to the ballpark was a whole different experience. TV baseball and in-person baseball are like two different games.|
TV football exaggerates in-person football. A 20-yard gain looks great on TV, but doesn't look like much when you see it in front of you.
As for my soccer thesis... well, it was only a dream, so I ain't gonna do it.
|Jul-04-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Just saw a full Rose-Fosse as the White Sox's Pierczinski just crashed into the Rangers' Mike Napoli, who dropped the ball. Brutal.|
|Jul-04-12|| ||Phony Benoni: You'd think the catchers would have sort of an understanding about not doing that, but Pierczynski is one guy who would break the rules.|
|Jul-04-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Are you just giving me the straight line, PB?
In the 1980 World Series, Darrell Porter was thrown out at home twice, not trying to bowl over Bob Boone at all. So someone asked him, "Do you have some sort of unspoken agreement among catchers?"
And Boone answered, "Yes, we do. You get the crap knocked out of you."
|Jul-05-12|| ||WannaBe: You'd think, just watching the Tigers this year would be enough, but Nooooooooo!|
|Jul-05-12|| ||Shams: Can the catcher give as good as he gets? If he had time to set himself, I should think a catcher could deliver a mighty blow of his own, and with practice hang on to the ball in the process. Of course, it would look pretty bad if the baserunner wasn't trying to bowl him over first.|
|Jul-05-12|| ||Phony Benoni: <Shams> If the catcher has time to set himself for the play, he rarely loses. He is generally a big, sturdy fellow with plenty of padding, and can easily adjust his stance to avoid the worst of the blow while still making the play.|
The brutal collisions occur when the catcher is still concentrating on catching the throw when the runner arrives. Runners have a lot of momentum, and a catcher who is not completely ready to absorb the blow is often a sitting duck.
|Jul-05-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Sure a catcher can give as good as he gets, if he has the ball in time. What typically happened, and happened in the play I saw, the ball arrived a split second before the runner arrived, so had no time to do anything except get clobbered.|
The rules say the catcher can't block the plate without the ball or if he's not fielding the ball, but intereference is never called these days.
|Jul-05-12|| ||Jim Bartle: PB posted about the same time I did.
Ryan Theriot of the New York Giants just made a great play to get the force at home with the game tied in the ninth. Unfortunately the shortstop threw the game away on the next play.
|Jul-05-12|| ||WannaBe: Saw the game the local watering hole, game was on the East Coast, so when I walked in it was already 4-1 Giants.|
With the throw-back uniforms, it took me a while to adjust to who is who and what team is what...
Dodgers ahead of Ariz. top of the 6th, thank goodness, there is no perfect-o game tonight for me to ruin. (Thanks for the pic, <OhioChessFan> =)
|Jul-05-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Vin Scully is the only announcer who can call "vintage uniform" games who called games when those uniforms weren't vintage.|
|Jul-05-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Interesting last Saturday when the Tigers played the Rays and the theme called for vintage uniforms from the Disco Era. Since the Rays didn't come into existence until 1998, this called for some imagination.|
|Jul-06-12|| ||Jim Bartle: I would have paid to see what Prince Fielder looked like in one of those. At least his name fits the era.|
|Jul-06-12|| ||WannaBe: 'Interesting' ruling on that SF-Was game, on the last play, it was ruled a Fielder's Choice (not Prince Fielder, or Sophie's Choice), and no error was given.|
SF got one error in the game, where the reliever failed to pick up the bunt. Box Score: http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxsc...
Sitting at the watering hole, I called it E3.
|Jul-06-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Learned a couple of things looking this up.
2.00: Definition of Fielder's Choice:
<FIELDER'S CHOICE is the act of a fielder who handles a fair grounder and, instead of throwing to first base to put out the batter-runner, throws to another base in an attempt to put out a previous runner.>
This essentially applies to situations where the batter reaches base; the play is scored as a "fielder's choice". If the batter is also put out, it changes into a "double play".
Then there is what is familiarly known as the "Can't anticipate a double play" scoring rule:
<10.12(d) The official scorer shall not charge an error against:...
(3) any fielder who makes a wild throw in attempting to complete a double play or triple play, unless such wild throw enables any runner to advance beyond the base such runner would have reached had the throw not been wild.>
Note that a wild throw is specified. Now, a comment to the rule:
<Comment: When a fielder muffs a thrown ball that, if held, would have completed a double play or triple play, the official scorer shall charge an error to the fielder who drops the ball and credit an assist to the fielder who made the throw.>
So if the throw is wild, the batter reaches on a fielder's choice; if the throw is muffed, it is scored as an error on the first baseman. So apparently you can anticipate a double play, and announcers have been misleading us all these years.
|Jul-06-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Weird stat of the day from Elias:
<David Ortiz is the fifth player to hit his 400th career home run against the Athletics, joining Babe Ruth (in 1927), Ted Williams (1956), Carl Yastrzemski (1979) and Paul Konerko (earlier this year). Ruth did so when the A's were based in Philadelphia and Williams' milestone shot came against the Kansas City Athletics. That makes Oakland the only franchise to allow career home run #400 to five different men, breaking a tie it held in that category with the Cardinals, Reds and Indians.>
|Jul-06-12|| ||Jim Bartle: "You can't assume a double play," we've heard a thousand times. Crawford's relay throw to first was in the dirt, but he'd already made the putout at second base. I guess if it had been a perfect throw and the first baseman dropped it, he would have gotten an error.|
The play that killed the Giants was the pitcher muffing the bunt, not getting the out and the runner at first.
In another game, can't remember which, I saw a bunt Baltimore chop for the first time ever. The guy bunted a fastball directly onto the plate and it bounced so high he got to first easily.
Dick Enberg and Tony Gwynn were calling the Padres game last night and brought in Bill Walton as a guest. Very funny, as Walton just stepped in and did the play-by-plays, imitating Enberg and announcers in general.
Enberg was the radio announcer when Walton was at UCLA, so they've known each a long time. Walton told a couple of pretty funny stories.
|Jul-06-12|| ||Jim Bartle: <Ortiz> Elias appears to have a fairly large database.|
|Jul-06-12|| ||WannaBe: Looking at this SF-Pit game, they got a nice crowd at the stadium. Kinda nice to see Pittsburgh having a good team.|
|Jul-07-12|| ||playground player: You know you're getting old when somebody you've never heard of hits his 400th home run. And when you mention names like "Gus Bell" or "Vic Wertz" and just get a lot of blank looks...|
|Jul-07-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Vic Wertz was an average player, a part-timer, when I first started following baseball in 1958. Gus Bell still a good outfielder for the "Redlegs," as they were called for a few years.|
A lot of players seem to hit landmark numbers without people taking much notice. It was page one news when Willie Mays hit his 600th home run in 1969, but not much more than a footnote when Jim Thome hit his 600th.
A player like Paul Konerko can play a long time for non-contending teams, and all of a sudden he's got 400 homers. Had he played for top teams, or even just stayed with the Dodgers, he would have made a lot bigger stir.
Harold Baines is another player who might fit the same mold.
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