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Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012

Regarding a post made on the chessgames.com chessforum Aug 2011: < kutztown46: Here is an idea for your consideration. ... What if a certain opening was selected (say the Benoni)? The first few moves of the game (characteristic of the opening system chosen) would be "forced" and the game would start at the end of the forced series of moves. The twist is, instead of randomly assigning participants to one of the teams, allow participants to choose which side they want to play on. Computer use could be allowed.>

We believe this to be a very good idea. This account is created for discussion about the upcoming challenge, dubbed the <Chessgames Thematic Challenge.>

SCHEDULE: Voting will close on April 21st at 11:59 pm (USA/Eastern). The winner will be announced shortly after the voting closes. The game will begin at noon, April 25th.

MORE INFO: For rules and to cast your vote, please see our Thematic Challenge Voting Page.

K K VOTING UPDATE K K

Sun Apr 22 00:00:17 EDT 2012

<The Albin Countergambit>

1 d4 d5 2 c4 e5
Votes for White: <532> | Votes for Black: 533


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<The Benko Gambit>

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 b5
Votes for White: 541 | Votes for Black: <501>


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<The Modern Benoni>

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 c5
Votes for White: 592 | Votes for Black: <491>


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<The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit>

1 d4 d5 2 e4 dxe4 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 f3
Votes for White: 479 | Votes for Black: <413>


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<The Traxler Counterattack>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 Bc5
Votes for White: <350> | Votes for Black: 570


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<The Goering Gambit>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4 4 c3
Votes for White: 468 | Votes for Black: <338>


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<The Evans Gambit>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 b4
Votes for White: 603 | Votes for Black: <331>


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<The Tennison Gambit>

1 Nf3 d5 2 e4 dxe4
Votes for White: <326> | Votes for Black: 420


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<The Halloween Attack>

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Nxe5
Votes for White: <307> | Votes for Black: 452


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<The Immortal Draw Variation>

1 e4 e5 2 Nc3 Bc5 3 Na4 Bxf2+ 4 Kxf2
Votes for White: <299> | Votes for Black: 364


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Thematic Challenge: The game is set up: Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012 Please note that even if you voted, you are NOT automatically assigned to a team quite yet. You still have to go to the page above and click on the "sign-up" link. At that point the software ...
 
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Apr-22-12
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  whiteshark: When I posted <Oh no, please not the Benko.> I have had something different in mind than activating the Albin Gambiteers. Well, <clear the decks for action <!!>>

:D

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <OhioChessFan> It's not only possible but certain. Then again, as everyone who knows me be now will readily agree, I never use a simple character when a lengthy word will do. :-)

Then again, I did say that the characters were "magic". So they obviously can transform themselves into words when it suits their mood.

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <whiteshark> As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you ask for, you might get it." So "Cry havoc!, and let slip the dogs of war""
Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Thematic Challenge: The game is set up:

Chessgames Challenge: Team White vs Team Black, 2012

Please note that even if you voted, you are NOT automatically assigned to a team quite yet. You still have to go to the page above and click on the "sign-up" link. At that point the software will consult your voting record and assign you to either Team White or Team Black as appropriate.

Also note that this forum is NOT for discussing the game in progress. The only appropriate place to discuss the game in progress is the secret team-only discussion forums at the link above.

However if you have a question or problem with the software (i.e., not related to any specific position or move) feel free to ask it here.

The game starts at noon on April 25th. Good luck to both teams!

Apr-22-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Do I get 10 votes for each move?
Apr-22-12  frogbert: ocf, it depends which team you're on.
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  capafan: Administrator: This may not be the appropriate place for this comment, but I know of no other place to voice the comment. My votes were submitted **all** for white and I have been assigned to Team Black??! Did the rationale for assigning players to either side change?
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <capa> I put in a special request to have you as a teammate.

<Thematic Challenge> a link to the new game at Chessgames Challenge would be nice.

Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cro777: <OhioChessFan: <capa> I put in a special request to have you as a teammate.> I did the same but <OCF> used a dedicated Administrator connection.
Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <Good luck, <Team White>!>

(You'll need it.:D)

Apr-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cro777: Good luck, Team Black!

The best thing to give to yourself is to respect your opponents enough to play 100 percent the whole time.

Apr-23-12
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  chessgames.com: <capafan> <My votes were submitted **all** for white and I have been assigned to Team Black??! Did the rationale for assigning players to either side change?> We are confused at this and will investigate immediately. It's possible that there is a programming error, if so we are very sorry.
Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: There's still not a link to this game at:
Chessgames Challenge
Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <capafan> We investigated the situation and we found no record of you voting whatsoever. Is it possible you had more than one account, or you neglected to press the submit button, or something like that?

Anyhow I am very sorry for the problem, but we can't do much about it now. To change your team assignment would taint the wall of privacy we've erected between the two team forums. I do hope you understand.

<all> Does anybody else believe they were assigned to the wrong team?

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <OhioChessFan: There's still not a link to this game at: Chessgames Challenge> Now there is.

By the way, the Thematic Challenge artwork is a painting of the pirate John "Calico Jack" Rackham. Shiver me timbers!

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  crawfb5: <By the way, the Thematic Challenge artwork is a painting of the pirate John "Calico Jack" Rackham. Shiver me timbers!>

Some of us noticed that already. :-)

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  jepflast: <chessgames.com>

I assume our forums are not protected from opponents and people who have not signed up yet, even with the "hide this from certain GMs" checkbox. Correct?

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  crawfb5: <jepflast> Your personal forum is not protected from anybody <except> from a GM playing a game against the membership. The only place to have protected discussions about member vs member games is at the game pages themselves. If you are on Team White, any member of Team Black will still be able to view your personal forum, so post accordingly.
Apr-29-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: While <1 d4 d5 2 c4 e5> made it with <Votes for White: <532> | Votes for Black: 533> there are only

< 48 <>> 'registered' team members on each side so far. That's a mere 9%.

Where's the rest of you?

Apr-29-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: <whiteshark> Premium members had multiple votes in the opening selection phase, there weren't really 500+ people voting :)
Apr-29-12
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  crawfb5: Premium member votes counted as 10 votes each. If we disregard any single votes from nonpremium members for an estimate of 53 premium members voting, then we have 48 of about 53 members registering to play.
Apr-29-12
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  whiteshark: <Switch> One man, one vote per opening at choice, innit?

<crawfb5> Oh, I see. To put it simple, 91% non-premium gullible voters decided what to play. And the 9% premies have to face the music. Well...

:D

Apr-29-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  crawfb5: <<crawfb5> Oh, I see. To put it simple, 91% non-premium gullible voters decided what to play. And the 9% premies have to face the music. Well...>

Um, no...53 premium members equals 530 votes at 10 votes per PM. It's the NPs that were one person, one vote.

From the voting page:

<Who can vote? - Any registered member of Chessgames may vote on this form. However, since it's the premium members who will actually be playing what is voted for here, each vote cast by a premium member counts for 10 normal votes. >

Apr-29-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <crawfb5> Touché!

(I should have read the page more carefully)

Thanks! :)

Apr-29-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  gauer: While, since 4. e4 hadn't won the vote of Albin supporters, perhaps next time they'll host a whole thematic tournament of an opening's test: Marshall / Allies vs Lasker, 1904 - the game after around 11. d4 may have been another good one to see debated again - for the opening's primary supporter - Isaac Rice. The idea to play the immortal draw line at draw odds was also interesting. Hopefully 4. Nf3 also stays swashbuckingly exciting.
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