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Member since Dec-03-07 · Last seen Feb-09-10
On this forum you can share your experience using <Chess Viewer Deluxe> (CVD) and also provide feedback and/or suggestions for new features. You are welcome to ask general Java installation and troubleshooting questions but those that are platform specific remain JVM vendor's responsibility. Some common Java installation problems and good suggestions have already been posted here and if you're lucky enough they may apply to your situation.
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   Viewer Deluxe has kibitzed 271 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-09-10 Viewer Deluxe chessforum (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Aeroflot Open" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2010/... If you’re looking for better reliability than the original relay itself, be my guest.
 
   Jan-29-10 Gibraltar (2010) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Gibtelecom Festival" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2010/...
 
   Jan-23-10 Corus (2010) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: <WinstonSilcott>, <dotty hill> and everybody who wonders why the official viewer http://www.coruschess.com/livegames... doesn’t show ANY games (9pm EST on Jan 23). Apparently the live PGN data has issues and isn’t quite correct. If you feel that not giving any ...
 
   Dec-08-09 London Chess Classic (2009) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Games of "London Chess Classic" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
   Nov-13-09 Kramnik vs Leko, 2009 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: If you think that the official site is quite a mess be my guest and enjoy the rest of the games at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
   Nov-13-09 Tal Memorial (2009) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: If you think that the official site is quite a mess be my guest and enjoy my live relay at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
   Nov-05-09 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: <If one part of the system fails, there should be an alternate success path.> Very good point <zarg> and I very much agree. That’s one of the reasons I started my TFD-Proxy project. Replacing the client part of the broadcasting software created a more reliable ...
 
   Oct-23-09 17th European Team Championship (2009) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: All of the officially available games of the "17th European Team Championship" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
   Oct-18-09 13th Unive Tournament (2009) (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Games of "13th Univé Chess Tournament" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
   Oct-04-09 D Jakovenko vs Topalov, 2009 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Thanks <Ezzy>, And for those of us who might have troubles visualizing it: http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
 
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Aug-28-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "10th Montreal International" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Aug-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <CG: <The real-time relay made possible by TFD Proxy script by Nikolai Pilafov>? It sounds like you've accomplished something that's been on our to-do list for years.>

First, the overall software architecture of my live relays is very modular. The CVD’s version used there is exactly the same (ver 3.5) used here on CG.com and all the relay work is done by the “TFD Proxy” module (on a separate server). That fact isn’t so obvious and people might be confused thinking that CVD has some special relay functionality in it.

The idea of “TFD Proxy” was born in my head (about a year ago) after witnessing numerous failures of official broadcasts based on the DGT’s software. We all have seen those followed by some lame excuses about “server overloads”. The truth is that by its original design their application it prone to scale badly. In addition, I haven’t seen any improvements in the way live broadcasts are presented for a very long time so my hope that somebody will address the issues was fading quickly.

One of the earliest appearances of “TFD Proxy” was in mid-march http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/.... Later I kept improving it Viewer Deluxe chessforum and nowadays we have a grown-up version with a long list of advantages. Here is just a few:

1) It acts as a true proxy and only downloads from the server games which have been actually modified (with new moves, times, etc.). Shortly, if some 1000 users are watching via “TFD Proxy” the official server will only be bothered as if a single visitor is watching via DGT’s interface;

2) It is very robust and not so vulnerable to server’s downtime. For the duration of a live event the official servers can (and will – see above) become unstable. Most of the brief problems caused by the official servers are resolved by “TFD Proxy” and the latest states of the games will be available until something newer comes in. Shortly, the user’s experience should be much improved;

3) In very persistent situations, where one of the servers has been non-responsive for a long time, a meaningful message will be produced to notify the end user. The opposite is (oh, so familiar) the hanging/frozen application and the look and feel of “I have no idea what’s going on!”. In other words, in such situations no news would be definitely bad news.

Enjoy watching!

Aug-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Nikolay, this TFD Proxy sound excellent. As you are no doubt aware, the live chess biz has been virtually taken over by this DGT applet and the electronic boards that interface with it. Perhaps intentional or perhaps just a technical consideration, the bottom line is that they use a very strange format that prohibits easily converting their output into PGN or even algebraic notation. (I say this without having read any official documentation of the DGT product, perhaps it is easier than I think.)

Most users don't realize this but many of our live broadcasts are performed by an employee watching a board and typing in moves as he sees them appear. It's a crude, demanding, and error-prone process. That is the reason why we don't have live chess broadcasts except for a few times a year.

It is our opinion that the method of live chess broadcasting that is common these days needs to be vastly improved. The simple solution is that for high profile chess events, there needs to be two servers. The first server can be for the general public which can and probably will crash when a million chess fans all excitedly press "reload" continually on their browsers. The other server could be for sites like Chessgames which should be given the red carpet treatment. This secondary server could have a password or some other authorization scheme, and therefore only be accessed by a small group of authorized people. When we say that we should be given the red carpet treatment, that's not hubris--it's just common sense. We read from their server ONCE in order to disseminate those data to thousands of people. Therefore our request truly is thousands of times more important than the average request.

In closing, if you'd like to continue this conversation via email, I'd like to discuss the ways that your TFD proxy could be used to help automate live events at Chessgames.

Sep-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Here is a very informative story about the quality of the broadcasting solution: “The truth behind the software block at Mtel Masters” http://reports.chessdom.com/news-20...

I wish more people would share their experience with this important software in such a dominating position. We know that games of quality can attract millions of chess fans but let’s not forget that poor software quality is appalling to everybody and hinders the good effort of players and organizers.

Sep-20-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Efimenko vs Short Match" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...

GM Short already lost the first game earlier today so it’s likely that more exciting games are coming our way.

Sep-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: I’m delighted to invite you to my alternative live relay of the games of “Karpov vs Kasparov” match on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...

Like other broadcasts of mine it employs the set of well known features, most notably of which, it allows immediate access to the on-going game’s PGN. <Enjoy!>

Sep-28-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: All games of "Pearl Spring Chess Tournament" and "Women's FIDE Grand-Prix" are being broadcasted live on my blog at

http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/... and
http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...

Oct-18-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "13th Univé Chess Tournament" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Oct-23-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: All of the officially available games of the "17th European Team Championship" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Oct-23-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Curiously, visitors of my blog today can enjoy 38 live games altogether (from two different tournaments).
Nov-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Magistral d'Escacs Ciutat de Barcelona" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Nov-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Tal Memorial" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Dec-03-09   LucB: Perhaps this has already been answered, but I'll ask anyways:

I'm running Firefox 3.5.5 and when using Chess Viewer Deluxe, I can only see part of the whole game. More precisely: I can see the 64 squares, the buttons on the bottom (except the "Board Colour Selection Buttons"), but I'm missing the "fourth column" of moves. I also can't see the date, the player's ELO rating...

Is there an adjustment I can make to see the whole thing? It works well in IE by the way, but I would really prefer sticking with Firefox.

Thanks!

Dec-04-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: If I understand your problem correctly it might have to do with the so called “page zooming”. FF seems to not only change the text font size but also affect other object (like applets) on the page. Try turning that feature off and see if it works better that way. Keeping in mind that CG has plenty of space on their game pages I can’t think of any other reason why the applet should appear partially.

Let me know how it goes

Dec-04-09   LucB: Thanks for responding; I'll give it a try!
Dec-04-09   LucB: ... well, will you look at that!!...

My problem seems to have fixed itself!

All I did was use the 'Ctrl' button in conjunction with my mouse scroll wheel. This, as expected, made the text larger or smaller. However it also seems to have fixed the viewing window in CVD!! Cool!!

I didn't even have to go to some FF settings page or anything! Hmm... 'should have thought of that earlier, oh well!

Thanks again!!

Dec-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "London Chess Classic" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2009/...
Jan-18-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Corus Chess" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2010/...
Jan-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Gibtelecom Festival" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2010/...
Feb-01-10   rusticbull: Hi Viewer Deluxe!!

I have my own chess blog http://chesswindows.blogspot.com where I'm already using MyChessViewer (I think). The feature is really great!

How can I use your CVD for me to be able to relay live transmissions of games?

Thanks and a lot and more power to you!!

Feb-01-10   rusticbull: Hi again, Viewer Deluxe!!

I'm confused if it's MyChessViewer or your CVD that I'm using in my blog http://chesswindows.blogspot.com. The only thing that I'm sure of is that that viewer is really fantastic.

Now, I also intend to use the LIVE transmission functionality of your creation. Could you please help me on how to do it? Thanks a lot and more power to you!!!

Feb-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Thanks for your kind words, <rusticbull>

Yes, you are using CVD along with my Web publishing method. The latter is responsible for all the flexibility you get while posting and for bringing the PGN from inside of your post into the viewer (CVD) at runtime. As you already know, the main goal was to allow bloggers to focus on chess and chess-related content.

Broadcasting live games, on the other hand, is a completely different ballgame. In addition there’re two separate groups of problems depending on what is being relayed.

1) Organizing a live broadcast of a local tournament hosted by you (or your chess club) is not only possible but actually quite easy. It would rely on the same publishing method with just a few minor modifications. I’m going to post a user’s “How To” guide on my blog when I find enough time;

2) Broadcasting of a tournament hosted by someone else is a lot harder to do. Think of it as a re-transmission. A lot of information about the tournament, players, games and the actual moves (plus real-time clock) needs to be gathered and then translated into PGN so that CVD can understands it. All of that is done by a separate product called “TFD Proxy” (for more info see my post from Aug-29-09 above). As of current that product is not available since I’m looking into few possible ways of justifying my investments.

I can’t tell what type of relays you have in mind but I’d be happy to answer any further questions.

Feb-03-10   rusticbull: <<Viewer Deluxe>:I’m going to post a user’s “How To” guide on my blog when I find enough time>

I'll be waiting for that!! Thank you very much again!!

Feb-09-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Games of "Aeroflot Open" are being broadcasted live on my blog at http://chesstuff.blogspot.com/2010/... If you’re looking for better reliability than the original relay itself, be my guest.
Feb-09-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Open Defence: thanks! someday I hope I can be savvy enough to install CVD for my blog...
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