with the method i proposed (or something similar), they wouldn't really open up anything for anyone. they would technically make the change themselves, with full control over what changes would be effected - enabling a "preview" of the changes, transaction & rollback functionality, etc.

technically cg.com could implement exactly as fine-grained change control they'd like using such a scheme.

however, for some types of changes (not the ones i volunteered to do) there might be a need to be able to preview the change (for the person doing the editing). so that might be an issue in certain areas.

I would trust e. g. twinlark and frogbert! There are many others but I haven't followed their postings.

This means that the games have no business being in the database at all.

I appreciate that some of Mr Goldsby's games have been disfigured by inane or insulting posts, some of them made by him. I assume that any disabling of the kibitz function there is a temporary measure while this is cleared up.

I don't see how one player's games can be given a special firewall. The *purpose* of the CG database - check your mission statements - is to provide a historical database of chess games *upon which members are able to comment, if they adhere to certain guidelines*.

The point of discussing and analyzing games is to hold a public conversation about them. I agree, of course, that this should not be about the assumed character of the players. But the idea of emailing one's analysis to a player privately is absurd, in the CG context. Do it if you really want to, but it's not what this place is about.

I will refrain from commenting on exactly what kind of brown-nosed grovelling qualifies as "objective" comment in the Goldsby universe.

I still don't see how he can remain, having publicly attacked the site. Or even why.

And you know what? It worked brilliantly.

<It seems to me that with the current bio writers the bio section on top is a success.> Agreed, and thanks.

<But the database of games can be improved.> Also agreed.

<What if you give a handful of people (not too many, and not me) the right to add, edit and delete games? For example with an upper limit of how many games to add or delete. Or with the right to act on correction slips only. I think you would be happy with what a few people can do in this respect.>

Well, we have one person who does exactly that as a part time job now--our lovely and fastidious User: CG Librarian.

Part of the reason why we've never been open about this kind of editing is that the admin tools are very roughy, and extremely abstruse. There's no documentation. There are no nice "are you sure?" windows to stop you from doing something disastrous. One wrong slip and you've just deleted Bobby Fischer! Oh and by the way, there's no "undo". Of course we have backups, but if a big mistake was made things would get REAL messy. The only reason that I trust our Librarian to do the job is that she possesses a rare kind intellect that allows her to do this work unerringly.

So, if anyone could tell me how i could verify this, thanks in advance..

1. Checked out the new addition by <Annie K.> for the Chinese pronunciation on my Android phone, worked really good.

(Now, if I can only find the volumn control for the device, not my ring-tone.)

2. Interesting observation, if a page, have 2 links to the target (e.g. avatar of <Phony Benoni> and the forum link, the forum link would not work, but the avatar link would.

So, as an example, if I go to recent forum kibit'n and my forum have a recent post. My avatar and/or my forum's "WannaBe's Forum" link would not work. I need to tap on the <profile> button on top right.

Wonder if anyone else have seen this on their smart (i)phone. I wonder if this done to cut down (the amount of) data transmition?

I'm still a bit confused at what you're witnessing. You mean in any general case or just with regards to avatars?

Suppose somebody posts < I like www.yahoo.com, hurray for www.yahoo.com > then the first link would work and the 2nd one would be a fake? Is the 2nd link even colored like a link, or does the phone magically delinkify it?

If anyone follows AJ to precious historical games pages for the purpose of attacking or stalking another user, that person will be put on probation, same as last time.