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Jun-25-12
 | | technical draw: Wait a minute, you mean the guy that kicks the ball is not the shooter? He's the punter? I thought he was the striker or the kicker. Maybe he's the lofter or the... |
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Jun-26-12
 | | meloncio: <JimB><I guess it's a matter of interpretation for the referee, what's legal and what isn't. (Including whether the goalkeeper has come off the line.)> You're right. Nobody knows for sure about it. <shooter> UK English vs US English fight? Hahaha, <Nako>, <technical draw>, <chancho>, <falso contacto> and me use to talk about our different Spanish, even <Jim> comments sometimes about Peruvian Spanish. But it's always just for fun and for learning new things. Never for a bitter argue. By the way, in Spain we say "tirador" or "lanzador" to the player shooting a penalty kick. What would be a good translation? |
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Jun-26-12
| | technical draw: <meloncio> "Lanzador"is used in Spanish for pitcher. "Tirador" is Puerto Rico slang for dope pusher. |
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| Jun-26-12 | | Jim Bartle: "Tirador" is certainly "shooter." "Lanzador" is similar but is the term used for a pitcher in baseball. |
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| Jun-26-12 | | NakoSonorense: We also say "cobrador." |
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Jun-26-12
| | technical draw: <Nako> I've heard cobrador in basketball. As in , "El que va a cobrar la falta". |
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Jun-26-12
 | | WannaBe: So, I heard there is some soccer game tomorrow, what's the big deal? :-) |
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| Jun-26-12 | | Jim Bartle: It's a HUGE deal. It's for the All-Iberia championship. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | MarkFinan: Well good luck to the Spanish tonight <Meloncio>, I really hope you go on and win the Euro's now..
I still don't get what Del Bosque's trying to do with this 4-6-0 though???
Whats wrong with Llorente, do the Spanish not rate him??
And by that I mean the Spanish press as well, as I know how Influential the English press can be on some of our past national managers..
A lot over here want the Portugese to win now (never Germany lol) because you've won the last Euro's and World cup, so they just want to see a new name on the trophy, but any team with Ronaldo In I just want them to lose!
I'll never forgive his little "mission accomplished" wink at the bench when he'd wound Rooney up Into getting sent off, last time around..
They were club mates at the time too!
So I hope It's a Spain v Germany final, and Iniesta gets the winner In the 90th..My team of the Euro's so far..
Hart, Debauchy, Terry, Pique, Lahm, Gerrard, Pirlo, Iniesta, Alonso, Ronaldo, Gomez.., BTW, Rooney should nver play for England again, 3rd best player In the world????? Doubt It haha.. And this has been the best Euro's In living memory for pure football IMO.. Good luck :) |
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Jun-27-12
| | meloncio: <Nako><TD><cobrador> It's very funny because around here "cobrador" means -exclusively- "collector man" for money, and "cobrar" is the verb to get that money. About it there is a famous anecdote related to Di Stefano when he came from Argentina to Spain in fifties. They say that in the middle of a game he asked the referee about a foul and shout out "Ya cobró?" (Did you blow it?), but of course the Spanish referee understood "Did you get it?" (the money), and he was inmediately sent off because the ref thought Di Stefano was insulting him for bribery, getting money from rival team. As someone said, we are separated for a common language :) |
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Jun-27-12
 | | dakgootje: :|
Didn't know Spanish was so diverse!
Heh, I once thought about trying to learn it. Then I figured I'd never be able to do the pronunciation :P |
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Jun-27-12
| | meloncio: <MarkFinan><Del Bosque 4-6-0??> Well, I agree because anyone but Torres is a better option. Nobody knows why he prefers Torres than Llorente, Madrid pressure I guess. Cristiano R. is getting to be so arrogant and idiot as Mourinho is. I don't know which one is on the top. Iniesta is the fav player for most Spanish people. He was born in a little village of La Mancha (Don Quixote's land!) and he's polite, modest, don't talk too much, and he always seems a natural country boy. <dakgootje><Didn't know Spanish was so diverse!> It's indeed, but in this case the problem was that in Spain the verb "cobrar" is ALWAYS related to money, but no in Latin America. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | MarkFinan: Negrado starts?? Iv'e never seen this guy play!
I guess peer pressure's ended Torres chances of a starting place then. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | Jim Bartle: There's a really funny commercial in Spain, can't remember the product, where Iniesta and Casillas walk around the streets asking average people for their autographs. Iniesta had an interesting description of his World Cup-winning goal. He said he bounced it into the air and just had to wait for "the Newton thing" before he could slam the ball in the net. He meant gravity bringing the ball back down. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | MarkFinan: Negrado's off! Rubbish, no wander I don't recall seeing him play before lol.. Ronaldo's running you ragged! |
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| Jun-27-12 | | Jim Bartle: Ah come on. Winning isn't reward enough for losing your honor and dignity. Minute 52: Ronaldo is about to lose the ball in the area, so he just tumbles to the ground untouched, and throws his arms up in protest to the referee. What an embarrassment. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | MarkFinan: Jim, I can't stand the bloke, but the Spanish were terrified of him!
I don't blame them either..
Maybe you should stick to rounders and netball old fella lol ;) |
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| Jun-27-12 | | Jim Bartle: Why? I enjoy watching even if I'm no expert. Ronaldo took a blatant dive, and I think that's as bad as Thierry Henry handling the ball (that phrase pass muster with you, Mark?) before the goal that got France to the World Cup. (For all the good it did them.) Spain had a couple great, great chances saved by the Portuguese g-o-a-l-k-e-e-p-e-r. Here come the penalty shots. I don't care who wins as much as, please, God, please let Ronaldo miss. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | Jim Bartle: Well, at least Ronaldo didn't score with a penalty shot. |
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| Jun-27-12 | | MarkFinan: Jim..... Are you under the false Impression I'm a frenchie ?? Lol And what the hell were the Portugese doing letting Alves go before Ronaldo?? Congrats Meloncio, when you've got two central defenders that put penalty's away like they did, especially Ramos (wow!), then good luck, I hope you win It :). You didn't play so well though, so Del Bosques got to change that formation against..... Probably Germany!! |
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| Jun-27-12 | | Jim Bartle: No, you're English. I just pointed out another case of cheating, and I think diving is worse. Ronaldo went down fraudulently. At least Henry didn't handle the ball intentionally. I really wanted Ronaldo to take a shot, and miss it. But it was nice to see his face after the loss, saying "wasn't my fault, they didn't give me a chance." |
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| Jun-28-12 | | NakoSonorense: Enhorabuena, meloncio!
It wasn't a great match, but Spain definitely had the best opportunities to score. I am disappointed that Del Bosque hasn't included Llorente in any games. Is he saving him for the final? |
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Jun-28-12
| | meloncio: <MarkF> Negredo is a Sevilla FC player so he can't be named as rubbish in this forum, never never never, under any circumstance. Some things are sacrosanct. |
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Jun-28-12
| | meloncio: Thanks friends for your congratulations. Truly we were lucky, Portuguese team played a good pressure as defence and I think sometimes they were too tough even violent, especially Pepe as usual. <MarF><especially Ramos (wow!)> I think Iniesta y Ramos are the best Spanish players in this EuroCup. And Ramos is a former Sevilla FC player too! :) <Jim><But it was nice to see his face after the loss, saying "wasn't my fault, they didn't give me a chance."> LOL, but in fact he was muttering "Qué injustiça, qué injustiça", that is what TV commentators said, apparently after reading his lips. <Nako><I am disappointed that Del Bosque hasn't included Llorente in any games. Is he saving him for the final?> Maybe, mostly if Germany team reach the final. Their players are tall and Llorente is our top (1,95 m). In that case we'll need him! |
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| Jun-28-12 | | MarkFinan: Okay... Never again will I Insult any Sevilla player, past or present lol...
And was I watching a different match to some here, I didn't think Spain played too well at all..
The Spanish players know Ronaldo more than anyone, and they seemed terrified of him!
As much as I can't stand the guy, he's still brilliant when on form..
Not to take anything away from Spain though, They're In the final and thats what counts :) So lets just say you're playing Germany In the final, you won't get away with playing 4-6-0 against them..
Whats the point In having the greatest set of International midfielders In living memory, without a centre forward (or two?) for world class players like Iniesta and Xavi to play them little slide rule passes to??? You'll get more shots on goal than yesterday, and as brilliant as Fabregas Is, he's no Messi, so why bring him on as a sub and stick him upfront!
I'm guessing Del Bosgue gets some stick In the Spanish press today, because although he's got them to the final Its hardly vintage Spain.. |
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