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|May-31-09|| ||meloncio: POP! Fsssssshhhhhhhhhh, cling, cling, cling. Cheers!|
Gloo, gloo. Hmmmmmmmmm!
|May-31-09|| ||NakoSonorense: Hahaha... Must be a happy day. Bye bye, Betis...|
|May-31-09|| ||Jim Bartle: A couple of weeks ago I commented on the need for a goal judge, that the referee could not always be well enough positioned.|
Yesterday in Everton-Chelsea a long shot hit the crossbar, bounced down just behind the goal line, and spun out to the goalkeeper. The referee was not--could not have been--in position to make the call, and he said no goal.
|May-31-09|| ||meloncio: <Jim><the need for a goal judge> It's an old problem, and even costed a World Cup final in 1966. See England third goal (around 7:00 min), being the most famous no-goal of the football history.|
|May-31-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Exactly the same, except this one was looked to touch the line.|
I remember watching this with my parents on TV in California. We thought, "Oh look, a game between England and Germany. Let's watch."
It wasn't until the celebration afterward and the presentation by the queen that we realized it was such an important game.
|Jun-01-09|| ||meloncio: <1966 Final Game> In this interesting video, we can see clearly that third goal was NOT goal, and that in the England fourth goal, some spectators were running inside the pitch (look the top of the screen at 2:00 min.). So two illegal goals decided a world title:|
I think that Beckenbauer still complaints about it...
|Jun-01-09|| ||meloncio: By the way, this summer I was a happy child running on the beach, and I don't remember nothing about it. My first WC memories comes from Mexico 1970 and the great Pelé.|
|Jun-01-09|| ||Jim Bartle: The 1970 World Cup completely passed me by. I think I heard when Brazil won, but nothing more.|
That WC in Mexico is responsible for saving many lives in Peru. Peru had a pretty good team (led by Teofilo Cubillas) and its opening game was on May 31. There was no television back then in the mountain valley of the Callejon de Huaylas below the Cordillera Blanca.
So thousands of people took the bus to Lima to watch the game. And that afternoon a 7.8 earthquake hit the valley. Close to 80,000 people were killed, but it would have been worse if so many people hadn't been on the coast.
|Jun-02-09|| ||meloncio: <Jim> I've found this interesting video about the tragedy you're talking about:|
And I remember Teófilo Cubillas, and other Perú players like Chumpitaz and Uribe.
|Jun-02-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Cubillas and Chumpitaz are still revered in Peru, as the stars of both the 1970 and 1978 World Cup teams, though not to the fanatical level of Maradona in Peru.|
Uribe, who was a casual friend of mine, was a talented player but a big disappointment in the 82 World Cup, where Peru got blasted by Poland and knocked out in the first round.
|Jun-03-09|| ||azaris: The news of today is that Chelsea have not made a £73.5m bid for Kaka.|
It's going to be a long summer...
|Jun-06-09|| ||azaris: Oh dear...
|Jun-07-09|| ||meloncio: <azaris><Zokora> I read it here some days ago, and I'm trying to avoid it telling everybody that he's not a good player for us, but who knows...|
|Jun-08-09|| ||azaris: I guess this is one way to sell a football club:
Anyone have spare 100 million GBP?
|Jun-08-09|| ||azaris: Marca claim that Kaká had a medical in Brazil and will be unveiled at Real Madrid on June 30th.|
|Jun-08-09|| ||meloncio: <...and will be unveiled at Real Madrid on June 30th.> But he will sign today, and Ribery is the next target, they say.|
Marca staff are fanatical 'merengues', so let's wait and see. I still remember their small headlines after Chelsea-Barsa semifinal game. In a lost corner in the middle of the web page, with 10 cpi letter or less, they wrote "Iniesta and the referee carry Barsa to the final." What a meanness!
|Jun-09-09|| ||azaris: <Kaká> So that's it? No tearful press conferences, no demonstrations, no Berlusconi excuses, no circus?|
I guess Real's money is easier to take than Abu Dhabi money.
|Jun-09-09|| ||TheAlchemist: <azaris> Berlusconi's excuse was the club's debts. It's been obvious for the past few years that he doesn't want to invest in the club anymore, but only cares about making money (that's why Ronaldinho and Beckham were signed). But why, instead of selling the club, he sold the best player??? Or he wanted the money for the a political campaign?|
The sad thing is that Kaka most likely didn't even want to leave, but felt betrayed by the club again accepting an offer for him. And this will probably lead to a chain reaction, where other players will want to leave as well. Which isn't necessarily bad, so long as Pato isn't one of them (which, unfortunately, he seems to be). I don't even want to think about the age of the "reinforcements"...
|Jun-09-09|| ||TheAlchemist: I guess I should add, that he <most likely didn't even want to leave> is more what I'd like to believe, if I really think about it. After all, nobody held a gun to his head. I don't know, I am probably too biased here, but I wouldn't want to think of him as just another mercenary. Or is he?|
|Jun-09-09|| ||azaris: In any case it cost Milan €51m to not sell him to Man City, so it was hardly good business.|
|Jun-11-09|| ||arsen387: Only today learned that Real signed the best player of the world. GREAT!!! There couldn't be any better candidate than Kaka! This is how president of the club should be - only the best players. I just couldn't find the price Real paid for him, somebody knows?|
|Jun-11-09|| ||NakoSonorense: Apparently, the transfer fee was €65m.|
|Jun-11-09|| ||arsen387: thanks, and is that the new record or Zidane's transfer price was higher?|
|Jun-11-09|| ||TheAlchemist: <thanks, and is that the new record or Zidane's transfer price was higher?> Zidane's was 73M. But it won't stand for long, since Cristina Ronaldo is about to be signed for around 93M.|
|Jun-11-09|| ||arsen387: <since Cristina Ronaldo is about to be signed for around 93M.> I hope not for Real Madrid ... Man City or Los Angeles Galaxy would be a good place for him :)|
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