chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

 
Chessgames.com User Profile Chessforum
playground player
Member since Oct-01-06 · Last seen Sep-19-14
NJ--no rating. Favorites, Morphy, Marshall, Anderssen. Played a lot as a teen, then let it go for 40 years. Trying to reconstitute myself as a chess player.

Meanwhile, let this forum serve as a refuge from wild-eyed loony leftism. Here there will be no admiration for Hugo Chavez, Castro, or any of the other tin-pot dictators admired by chess players from the safety of freedom-loving Western democracies. Here will be found a premise that most of the nations of the world today are governed by Godless fools. Ours, too, unfortunately.

I was also going to say some uncomplimentary things about Queen Pawn games, the Sicilian and the French Defenses, Semi-Slav games, and a few other chess matters. But as those are purely questions of personal taste, I have chosen to leave them alone.

Since setting up this forum, I have also had several novels published: "Bell Mountain," "The Cellar Beneath the Cellar," and "The Thunder King." For more information about them (and me), visit my website, http://leeduigon.com/

Update, much delayed: my fourth book, "The Last Banquet," came out last year, and my fifth, "The Fugitive Prince," I expect to be published sometime this Spring. For book covers and free sample chapters, visit my blog.

Update again: "The Fugitive Prince" is out now and the next project is "The Palace." Editing is well advanced, but we're still waiting for a cover.

Chessgames.com Full Member

   playground player has kibitzed 4301 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Sep-19-14 D Moody vs A Hubbard, 2014 (replies)
 
playground player: Moody's return to chess greatness is long overdue. So what's taking Kasparov?
 
   Sep-19-14 playground player chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: <WannaBe> I have to agree with the commenter who said that if nobody pays you for it, it doesn't count. <optimal play> Have you ever thought of hiring out as a living dictionary of liberal cliches? I'm not going to go tit for tat through the food fight. I don't
 
   Sep-09-14 Sax vs Keene, 1972 (replies)
 
playground player: Like the Zulus at Rorke's Drift, Black ran out of men to sacrifice.
 
   Sep-08-14 D Daniels vs G Yzhow, 2014 (replies)
 
playground player: I could not find any way to sacrifice my Queen. But there must be one!
 
   Sep-07-14 B Tuvshintugs vs Koneru, 2014 (replies)
 
playground player: Why is it un-PC to call Mongolia Mongolia?
 
   Sep-04-14 cormier chessforum (replies)
 
...
 
   Sep-03-14 jessicafischerqueen chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: <Boomie> Very likely you never heard of Tannu Tuva, or the Tuvan SSR, unless you were into stamp-collecting a long time ago. Tuva's oversized stamps, representing a place some people weren't sure existed, were always in demand. Feynman and a few of his friends became
 
   Aug-24-14 Karpov vs Kasparov, 1984 (replies)
 
playground player: Did Kasparov ever amend or retract his comment about Karpov being some kind of embodiment of evil?
 
   Aug-21-14 Lasker vs Nimzowitsch, 1934 (replies)
 
playground player: <Once> What in the world was that video? "The Music of Chess"--do the moves somehow generate the notes that are played? Play a really sweet game, and it comes out as Mozart?
 
   Aug-21-14 Phony Benoni chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: I'll never forget that pine tar game. I thought George Brett was going to have an apoplexy. Anybody got video of that?
 
(replies) indicates a reply to the comment.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 159 OF 340 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: <Esteemed Colleagues> The steam shovel swept over my desk again this morning and dropped another huge load of work on it. Therefore I cannot do justice to the comments you have posted today. I have to get some of this stuff cleared up!

<DEA> I'm glad you haven't left. I'm not ignoring you--I just don't have time today to craft a proper answer. Meanwhile, <YouRang> seems to be handling your question quite well without me.

<YouRang> I'm not ignoring you, either. I'm just swamped.

<hms123> Actually I don't support state mandates imposed on local school districts regardless of whether the state funds them or not.

Gotta go!

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp> I will be patient.

<<hms123> Actually I don't support state mandates imposed on local school districts regardless of whether the state funds them or not.>

Does that include limits on class size? Health and safety regulations? Testing standards?

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: <hms123> I think all of those can be decided locally. Why should faceless bureaucrats in the state capitol decide how many kids should be in the classroom? What makes their decision any better than the local school board's?

Back to work! (huff-puff)

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp>

Hypothetical: the local school system thinks that 4th-grade reading proficiency is sufficient for high school graduation. Besides, they can't afford to do any more than that.

The faceless bureaucrats decide that it should be 10th-grade reading level that is necessary for good citizenship. They also agree to spend state funds (previously donated by me to the state to be used for "general educational purposes as the state sees fit") to bring the local school up to snuff.

Is that really so bad?

Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Deus Ex Alekhina: Charles Colson was a self-described hatchet man; he attempted to destroy the reputations of REAL patriots like John Dean and Daniel Ellsburg and he was a part of a larger, more vicious conspiracy against the laws & constitution of our country, known by the name "Watergate". Now, because he became a Christian spokesperson, that makes him a "good person", I guess - by the same token serial killer David Berkowitz is a "good person". Give me a break! I really don't care one way or another about the death of Mr Colson, but I certainly will exult and rejoice when D Berkowitz croaks! <YR> Before the serpent arrived, the Garden of Eden, with its "forbidden fruit" can be described as a classic "setup", a "trap". In other words, someone wants Adam & Eve to fall into the trap. But wait, now add the serpent! The entrapment angle becomes all the more clearer!! A self-fulfilling prophecy!! Where did the serpent come from? Why was it there? Do you REALLY believe that YHWH didn't know it was there? And what does YHWH do to the serpent after the fall, does YHWH destroy the serpent? NO!! Why not?? What did Elijah do to the priests of Baal after the "fire test"? Elijah killed them!! (Destroying Evil). But not YHWH - He lets the serpent go away, after a curse. Does anyone see the inconsistency here??? The logical assumption is made, but I can't put it into words here, because they will be deleted as a previous post was, & I was then accused of blasphemy. Sad.
Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: <DEA> mostly this is a version of the rebelion ... Rev 12:7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Apr-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: <Deus Ex Alekhina><<YR> Before the serpent arrived, the Garden of Eden, with its "forbidden fruit" can be described as a classic "setup", a "trap". In other words, someone wants Adam & Eve to fall into the trap. But wait, now add the serpent! The entrapment angle becomes all the more clearer!! A self-fulfilling prophecy!! Where did the serpent come from? Why was it there? Do you REALLY believe that YHWH didn't know it was there?>

I think calling this "entrapment" is overly pejorative. The Bibilical account has people who have their own free-will living in a paradise with one rule. Evidently, Adam & Eve lived in this environment happily for a long time. God is not guilty of tempting them.

The already-fallen serpet also had a free will, and used it to tempt the people to distrust God as an act of their own free-will (IMO this was the real beginning of evil).

Personally, I believe God knew this would happen, and He used it for his purposes (which have not yet been fully revealed).

<DEA: And what does YHWH do to the serpent after the fall, does YHWH destroy the serpent? NO!! Why not?? What did Elijah do to the priests of Baal after the "fire test"? Elijah killed them!! (Destroying Evil). But not YHWH - He lets the serpent go away, after a curse. Does anyone see the inconsistency here???>

First of all, it's not necessarily inconsistency if the circumstances are different -- and the two cases you cite are very different. God's purpose in one circumstance may be different than his purpose in another.

But notice that the Bible does promise, shortly after the downfall in Genesis, that the serpent will face judgment - but it will happen according to God's timing and purpose. We, being finite, tend to make a big deal about time. To us there's a big difference in being punished 10 minutes after a crime, and being punished (say) 7000 years after a crime. But to God, such time differences in the context of eternity are of little consequence.

Another thing about being finite is that there is so much we cannot comprehend. In our ignorance, we oversimplify God, and sometimes even venture to pass judgment on Him. As an atheist, I'm sure that doesn't worry you. But FYI, it's not beyond forgiveness.

BTW, I realize that to you, all of this probably seems ridiculous (I thought so once). These Biblical accounts are narrated in a matter of fact way with no effort to convince the reader that it's real. The realization that they are to be taken seriously may come later. For me, it came as a result of the prophetic quality of the Bible (as I've mentioned previously).

Apr-25-12  MORPHYEUS: About the origins of evil, I like to read Enoch, although this is apocrypha, not in our bible.

This is about how some angels left their stations and mate with women.

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: <<<<<yr> time is god and space is god> ... i'm in Him and he's living love> .... Light of lights> ..... i'm consacred to both sacred hearts(forming only one, the heaven, tks Y>
Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...
Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: <hms123> Do you really think it likely that a local school board, anywhere, would decide that a 4th grade reading level would be sufficient for a high school diploma?

Hidden in your hypothetical is an assumption that spending more money equals better education. No, I don't think you really believe that. But the way you posed the question also inserted the assumption.

When it comes to curriculum, local boards have virtually no autonomy. A much more usual hypothetical would have the State Dept. of Education deciding that from now on, all high school graduates must be able to speak Welsh--and leaving it up to the local school districts to find the money for it.

Meanwhile, it was reported this morning on "The John Gambling Show," WOR radio (New York), that the State Board of Regents is considering whether to do away with the state proficiency tests in History and Geography--because most students fail.

Well, who can be bothered with History and Geography, when they're busy teaching kids the really important stuff like safe sex, self-esteem, and saving the planet?

I know you know that public education in America is beset with serious problems; and I'm pretty sure you know that having the higher levels of government involved in education, for the past several decades, has not fixed those problems.

So what reforms would you suggest? After all, you're actually in the field--your opinion must be worth something.

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: <Morphyeus> Nice to see you again.

<DEA> I'm going to continue to let <YouRang> address your theological question. I can't improve on any of his answers so far. I recommend you pay attention to him.

As for the matter of Charles Colson... Well, I know you're skeptical of jailhouse conversions. But Colson was "Nixon's hatchet man" a long time ago. After he served his time in jail, he spent decades working consistently at his Prison Fellowship ministry. Unless you insist that all crime taints the criminal forever ("Once a crook, always a crook"), what more do you think Colson should have done?

A great many people would disagree with your characterization of Daniel Ellsberg and John Dean as <real patriots>. But let's say, for the sake of argument, that they were regular saints: and of course Colson was convicted and sentenced to prison for his actions.

Should he have been sentenced to life imprisonment without parole? Executed?

I suspect your objection to him is political. But then I don't know what your theory of penology is, so I'm only guessing.

Do you believe the man's whole life, after his conversion, and after he finished serving his sentence, was a 30-year-long exercise in hypocrisy? If so, what's your evidence?

Note that I haven't accused you of exulting in Colson's death. But you could have found plenty of that on The Washington Post Online and elsewhere.

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp>

I made my suggestions earlier:

< hms123: <OCF> I need to weigh in here on one point: there is a difference between paying the current crop of teachers (including lots of incompetents)more money and raising the amount we pay teachers by enough to attract really good smart people who would otherwise go into other better-paying professions.

If I were king, I would make every single teacher in the country re-apply for his or her job every single year. All salaries would be doubled, but there would be no tenure. It wouldn't take long before we had engineering grads teaching math and science, etc.

Btw, principals (and principles) matter, so I would fire all but the very top school principals and hire some MBA grads (at twice the old salaries) with work experience to whip the schools into shape.

Money does matter, but throwing good money after bad teachers is crazy. On that I am sure we agree.>

playground player chessforum

On the matter of specific reforms, there is research to indicate that class size matters. Money does affect class size. I think standardized testing is not helpful: teachers teach to the test instead of teaching kids to think; cheating is rampant. I would do away with mandated testing.

The problem comes with one's definition of equity and fairness. As an old example, the nearby elementary school (a few blocks away) is in an upper-middle class neighborhood in which the parents can and do donate a lot of money to the school. Years ago, they donated enough to air-condition the school. Soon other schools in similar neighborhoods did the same. All of a sudden, "rich kids" in the public schools had air-conditioned classrooms. This matters a lot in Nashville for much of the school year. At any rate, it took a while but it finally embarrassed the district into air-conditioning the rest of the elementary schools.

Btw, the parents recently donated enough to build a new wing on the building for a new gym and cafeteria (one parent donated $100,000).

My point, and I do have one, is that I believe the states do have some interest in treating children fairly regardless of the income and predilections of a particular district. We know that this is not always the case: poor kids of every race and ethnic group get the shaft when these decisions are made.

I would prefer to see those children grow up to be healthy and well-educated citizens. Money alone isn't the answer, but money well-spent would help IMO. And, for the record, I don't trust the good citizens of many local school districts to be equitable. They have long ago demonstrated their inability to do so.

Apr-25-12  bwarnock: <<<DEA> <YR> Before the serpent arrived, the Garden of Eden, with its "forbidden fruit" can be described as a classic "setup", a "trap". In other words, someone wants Adam & Eve to fall into the trap.

...now add the serpent! The entrapment angle becomes ... clearer!! A self-fulfilling prophecy!! Where did the serpent come from? Why was it there?

Do you REALLY believe that YHWH didn't know it was there? And what does YHWH do to the serpent after the fall, does YHWH destroy the serpent?

NO!! Why not?? What did Elijah do to the priests of Baal after the "fire test"? Elijah killed them!! Destroying Evil). But not YHWH - He lets the serpent go away, after a curse. Does anyone see the inconsistency here??? >

I think it's more interesting to look at this from the other perspective - i.e. the "God" (= perfect being) point of view.

You're a perfect being - how do you, as a perfect being, create or introduce imperfection?

The problem to be solved here is that perfection is boring: you know all the answers, everything is harmonious, works perfectly etc. i.e it's dull. So how do you proceed?

<>

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp>

<<hms123> Do you really think it likely that a local school board, anywhere, would decide that a 4th grade reading level would be sufficient for a high school diploma?>

Yes, if the kids were poor, the teachers were incompetent, and no one cared, and it was Mississippi or Arkansas in 1960. Obviously, I hope those days are behind us, but the point is the same.

I found this info on the graduation rate in Tennessee: <Since 2002, Tennessee has raised its graduation rate from 59.6 percent to 74.9 percent>.

and this: <Many changes factor into the state’s graduation-rate jump. Park credited a state law passed in 2001 that requires students to stay in school and make academic progress or risk having their driver’s licenses suspended. He also cited the state’s “effective use of data,” referring to value-added data, which gives teachers the ability to track the progress of students year-by-year instead of comparing student to student. Park said state educators put teams of professionals in dropout-factory schools to utilize the data. >

Here's what Memphis was like in 2009: <Graduation rates in Memphis City Schools have slipped again, falling nearly 5 percentage points in a year to 62.1 percent.

Last year, the Memphis rate was 66.9 percent. The national average graduation rate is about 69 percent.

MCS missed its target by 12 points.

"We just had way too many kids drop out in this four-year time span," said Bill White, head of school choice and student accounting for the district.

Under the No Child Left Behind federal mandate, MCS was supposed to graduate 74.6 percent of its seniors in 2009. In 2010, it must graduate 77.6 percent of its seniors or risk punitive measures, although the state is requesting a waiver from the U.S. Department of Education.

The MCS class of 2009 lost 25.9 percent of students who were freshmen in 2006, meaning that one in four dropped out or transferred and did not report their new schools to district officials.

The remaining 12 percent are a mix of special students who may or may not have finished school but don't count toward graduation and those who did not complete high school within 41/2 years.>

BTW, Memphis is totally corrupt and has been for many years. Nothing works in Memphis. Do we leave them to their own devices so that they turn out generation after generation of criminals who then fill our increasingly-expensive jails? Perhaps a biblical cleansing a la Sodom and Gomorrah is in order (after trying to find the 10 honest folks). If we could get the kids out, I might go for it.

I couldn't find a citation but I believe that the reading level needed for graduation is roughly 10th-grade. I doubt that is being met in the districts that are pushing to graduate everyone they can no matter what. Is 10th-grade level enough in the world today? What if the district says "yes, for poor kids" and the state disagrees?

These aren't easy questions and they don't have easy answers, but a local bake sale isn't going to be enough to solve the very serious issues of American education.

One last point: My research for the past twenty years or so has been on <Parent Involvement in the Schools>. I am much in favor of it. Schools and teachers have been less interested. Our work has started to change all that in many school districts and a few states (Iowa has adopted our model). You will be happy with the bottom-up effects. I am also happy that it is influencing things at the state level. http://www.vanderbilt.edu/peabody/f...

Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: the serpent is a symbol of evil spirit in the eden garden ..... tks G
Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Deus Ex Alekhina: For those Christians of you who believe in the redemptive, restorative power of the Christ, you must apparently fully embrace the saved David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, who viciously shot and killed young couples as they sat in their cars at night over a period of several months. And when he couldn't find couples to kill, he went up to young single women and shot them in the face. Behind bars, Berkowitz "found God", and became a prison minister. Conservative Christians have, then, something in common with bleeding-heart liberals, in this case. I venture that some of you Christians would like to see Berkowitz let out of jail and perhaps he could move right into your house. Ugh.
Apr-25-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: <<<<<<<Deus Ex Alekhina>> no one can play any trick to God> ... his justice is perfection> .... one has to truelly love God otherwise nothing will concur to this one> ..... tks G.> really true my friend, heaven is invincible therefore no evil can get there!!!>
Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...
Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: Our Lady of Medjugorje's April 25, 2012 Monthly Message :

English

“Dear children! Also today I am calling you to prayer, and may your heart, little children, open towards God as a flower opens towards the warmth of the sun. I am with you and I intercede for all of you. Thank you for having responded to my call.”

Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp>

Back to this question for a second time:

<<hms123> Do you really think it likely that a local school board, anywhere, would decide that a 4th grade reading level would be sufficient for a high school diploma?>

It doesn't matter whether I believe it or not. The question was hypothetical. The real question is whether you would agree to state action in such an unlikely (in your mind) scenario.

Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  hms123: <pgp> On a lighter note: I have now watched 4 episodes of <The Last of the Summer Wine> from the 1982-83 season. They are quite good. I intend to watch many more in the next few weeks now that my teaching responsibilities are about to disappear.

Thanks for the recommendation.

Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: <hms123> Glad you like <Last of the Summer Wine>. I was pretty sure you would!

I suppose we could wrap up our discussion of education by agreeing that sometimes spending the money works, and sometimes it doesn't. I'm glad it seems to have done some good in Tennessee.

Anyhow, if you've read my columns regularly, you know my deepest objections to public education involve much of what is actually taught.

<Steamed Colleagues> My column this week concerns the near-total demise of Gary, Indiana--with a link to pictures!

http://www.newswithviews.com/Duigon...

<DEA> If God's law had been observed, and David Berkowitz had been put to death for committing murder, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

But never mind Berkowitz! If you don't believe that anyone can ever go straight--let alone experience a true conversion--then what is the point of giving any criminal anything less than a lifetime prison sentence? And if you're worried (as is reasonable) about the prohibitive costs of doing that, then wouldn't it make sense to execute all convicted felons? I think it's obvious we can't do that, and I doubt many people would want to.

Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: <Deus Ex Alekhina: For those Christians of you who believe in the redemptive, restorative power of the Christ, you must apparently fully embrace the saved David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, who viciously shot and killed young couples as they sat in their cars at night over a period of several months. And when he couldn't find couples to kill, he went up to young single women and shot them in the face. Behind bars, Berkowitz "found God", and became a prison minister. Conservative Christians have, then, something in common with bleeding-heart liberals, in this case. I venture that some of you Christians would like to see Berkowitz let out of jail and perhaps he could move right into your house. Ugh.>

Not quite. I (and I think most Christians) feel that one must face the earthly consequences for their crimes regardless of their professed faith.

However, regarding eternal consequences for violations of God's law -- and we are all violators -- the Bible teaches that God does offers redemption.

As for Berkowitz, IMO he should have been executed for his crimes. Whether his professed conversion is genuine or not matters greatly to him, but not to earthly law.

P.S. I am not a fan of the idea of "celebrity Christians" -- especially if the celebrity status was gained by doing famously evil things. If their conversion is real, I would think they should be characterized by repentance. They should shun any effort to profit by their celebrity status and they should make no effort to evade the earthly punishment that is due.

Apr-26-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Noticed a typo in last week's article:

<therefore the assistant principle>

Jump to page #   (enter # from 1 to 340)
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 159 OF 340 ·  Later Kibitzing>

from the Chessgames Store
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other users.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific user and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.

You are not logged in to chessgames.com.
If you need an account, register now;
it's quick, anonymous, and free!
If you already have an account, click here to sign-in.

View another user profile:
  


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | advertising | contact us
Copyright 2001-2014, Chessgames Services LLC
Web design & database development by 20/20 Technologies