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playground player
Member since Oct-01-06 · Last seen Oct-24-14
NJ--no rating. Favorites, Morphy, Marshall, Anderssen. Played a lot as a teen, then let it go for 40 years. Trying to reconstitute myself as a chess player.

Meanwhile, let this forum serve as a refuge from wild-eyed loony leftism. Here there will be no admiration for Hugo Chavez, Castro, or any of the other tin-pot dictators admired by chess players from the safety of freedom-loving Western democracies. Here will be found a premise that most of the nations of the world today are governed by Godless fools. Ours, too, unfortunately.

I was also going to say some uncomplimentary things about Queen Pawn games, the Sicilian and the French Defenses, Semi-Slav games, and a few other chess matters. But as those are purely questions of personal taste, I have chosen to leave them alone.

Since setting up this forum, I have also had several novels published: "Bell Mountain," "The Cellar Beneath the Cellar," and "The Thunder King." For more information about them (and me), visit my website, http://leeduigon.com/

Update, much delayed: my fourth book, "The Last Banquet," came out last year, and my fifth, "The Fugitive Prince," I expect to be published sometime this Spring. For book covers and free sample chapters, visit my blog.

Update again: "The Fugitive Prince" is out now and the next project is "The Palace." Editing is well advanced, but we're still waiting for a cover.

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   playground player has kibitzed 4361 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Oct-24-14 playground player chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: <Thanh Phan> Back in the 1980s, <The Moral Majority> was a Christian lobbying group founded by Rev. Jerry Falwell. It was greatly feared and hated by America's secular elitists, and the media never, never passed up a chance to demean it and demonize it. It ...
 
   Oct-19-14 Phony Benoni chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: I think I'd take the $10,000. My idol is Davy Crockett, and it'd be kind of unnerving to meet him.
 
   Oct-14-14 J Saradjen vs M Perunovic, 2004 (replies)
 
playground player: When I come to grief in the Polish Opening, it's very often because I've allowed Black to establish a Knight on the fourth rank. I have had to learn not to allow that.
 
   Oct-08-14 K Bischoff vs K Mueller, 2004 (replies)
 
playground player: What Black really needs here is just one extra move. Just one.
 
   Oct-07-14 hms123 chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: <hms123> It ain't noir, but it sure is motley. I think you'll love these pictures of simple jobs done hopelessly wrong. http://leeduigon.com/2014/10/07/the... Everything OK with you? Haven't seen much of you lately.
 
   Oct-01-14 M Martinez Romero vs D Gonzales, 2014 (replies)
 
playground player: Bxh7... just like puncturing a tire.
 
   Sep-30-14 H Lehmann vs K Junge, 1942 (replies)
 
playground player: Hmm... A couple of Germans in a German city in 1942, playing the Semi-Slav Defense, Botvinnik System... And the Gestapo didn't grab them?
 
   Sep-26-14 Capablanca vs R T Black, 1911
 
playground player: It looks to me like Capablanca didn't have a lot of respect for this opponent. It seems I'm not the only one who thought so.
 
   Sep-22-14 jessicafischerqueen chessforum (replies)
 
playground player: How Unrealistic Dialogue Can Totally Destroy a Novel: Real Life Example #1 (author's name withheld, title withheld, you'll have to trust me on this one): The setting: Cornwall, circa 470 A.D. Merlin turns to another character and says (cross my heart), "Ya got a problem ...
 
   Sep-19-14 D Moody vs A Hubbard, 2014 (replies)
 
playground player: Moody's return to chess greatness is long overdue. So what's taking Kasparov?
 
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May-01-12
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  YouRang: <Deus Ex Alekhina: This is for <YouRang>, but any one can try to answer. Do you believe in the current crop of "faith healers"?>

No. I'm pretty sure they're a bunch of crooks. In fact I think the Bible speaks about them in 1Tim 5 as <men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.> and in 2Tim 3, where it says that in the last days there will be <lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power>.

<DEA: How about glossolalia?>

No, certainly not the nonsense chatter that passes for "speaking in tongues" today. I think the Biblical accounts of this gift indicate that it was the ability to speak in an actual foreign language that was previously unknown to the speaker.

IMO, this gift was did exist as a sign to the early church that Christ had fulfilled his promise to send his Spirit to the world after his departure (e.g. Acts 1:4-5; John 14:26). Once that point had been made, the gift was no longer necessary, and it ceased. I don't think that miracles such as this occur today.

<DEA: And does YHWH still use storms and plagues to destroy peoples who have lost their way? Notice that the current crop of tornadoes regularly hit the so-called bible belt (as do hurricanes). Was AIDS sent to punish homosexuals? Thanks.>

Those are questions that I don't think any of us are authorized to answer. In fact, I think the Bible explicity teaches that we should not be make statements about God's purposes as they apply to various events that occur.

For example: Luke 13:1-5 -- <1Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2Jesus answered, Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

4Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on themdo you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. >

Likewise, I think one of the lessons of the OT book of Job is the futility of people presuming that they can comprehend God's purposes.

Our place is to humbly accept that God's ways and thoughts are incomprehensible to us (beyond what has been revealed in scripture). Otherwise, we tend to unwittingly put ourselves in a position of judging God, which of course is backwards.

May-01-12  achieve: PS - your tiny bit of sarcasm here: <Can't we appreciate what a wonderful job the secular humanists are doing of governing the world?> of course didn't escape me, and "they" don't even "pose" as secular, quite the contrary, but even that (Gaia Worship) rarely appears in the MS Media. The GOP Bohemians equally serve, and "worship", only one master, and you know who that is. Molech, Owl, Lilith...

<The people of Israel and Judah have provoked me by all the evil they have done. They set up their abominable idols in the house that bears my Name and defiled it. They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech, though I never commanded, nor did it enter my mind, that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.> - Jeremiah 32:32-35

May-02-12
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  playground player: <achieve> Actually, I think I was being a bit (just a little bit) more charitable to them than you are.

You suggest that the promoters of Agenda 21 Etc. are servants of Satan. I won't contradict you. But why, then, do I refer to them as <secular humanists>?

Read <The Humanist Manifesto II>, easily available on the Internet. It was written in the 1970s, and it seems to me flaming obvious that Agenda 21 comes out of that tradition like one amoeba from another.

I make no apologies for being a Republican. It's not my fault that the GOP leaders don't measure up.

<YouRang> I salute you for your patience in dealing with <DEA's> questions, which I believed were not sincere. My reaction would have been to ignore them. But now that I've seen your answers, I freely admit your reaction was wiser and more constructive than mine.

I find myself growing shorter and shorter on patience, these days. May the Lord re-supply me.

May-02-12  cormier: <<<<<there is the world(nations)> ... and then the Kingdom(christian(peoples, humen) docile to God's Spirit)> .... God do go One on one and transform us into his Light-Love> ..... tks G> ps. this is how the face of the earth(lings) is renewed, from our interior relation with Him>
May-02-12
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  YouRang: <playground player> Personally, I haven't seen any reason to think that DEA is insincere. IMO, insincerity is indicated when all you get is ridicule, insults, and so on -- and DEA hasn't gone there.

Sure he's an atheist, and he clearly has his reasons for that. So, we have to grant that he will express those reasons.

We have to also expect that to him, Christianity (as well as other religions) looks like foolishness. Look at his questions -- he has seen the faith healers and the babblers, and the large crowds who flock around those things. If my ideas about Christianity were influenced by these observations, I would think Christians were a gullible bunch of fools too!

If we just take offense at his questions and comments and blow him off, aren't we just giving him an extra reason to feel that his views are confirmed?

Perhaps DEA is just doing this for amusement, but even so I appreciate it when unbelievers are willing to discuss such matters -- most of them are not interested. One should hope that the professing Christians would at least try to respond in a Biblical manner, for example, as described in the following passages:

1 Pet 3:13-15 = <13 Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? 14 But even if you should suffer for righteousness' sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect>

2 Tim 2:24-26 = <24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.>

- 1 Cor 1:18-19 = <18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.>

May-02-12
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  YouRang: <playground player> In reviewing my last post, it may have come across as "preaching at you" more so than I intended.

I'm just expressing my own viewpoint on the matter.

May-02-12
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  Deus Ex Alekhina: My questions are based upon what I see on Christian tv, and the growing library of books I have on religion. BTW, <pgp> sometime ago, mentioned "Dan Brown theology" in response to one of my remarks or questions. I should point out that I have never read any of Dan Brown's books nor have seen any movies based upon same. I don't use fiction as my source for anything. I did see Dr Peter Gammons on tv talking about his faith healing in the Philipines before a crowd of 4,000,000 stretching 6 miles deep. He showed a helicopter photo of the crowd, but no video. The photo can be seen on his website, but there is no context showing what the crowd was looking at. I thought the main body of Christians in Manila was Catholic, who supposedly don't throng to faith healers. The OT certainly does say that YHWH used disease and storms to punish the unbelievers and Pat Robertson did say that YHWH was using hurricanes to punish New Orleans and the USA for abortion, homosexuality, and immorality. My questions are therefore very legitimate.
May-02-12
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  YouRang: <Deus Ex Alekhina> <My questions are therefore very legitimate.>

Agreed.

I don't have much respect for Pat Robertson (or others of his ilk) myself.

Regarding your mention of OT accounts where storms and diseases are used to punish unbelievers --

Can you give examples of this? By "storm", are you referring to the Genesis flood, and by "disease", are you referring to leprosy (e.g. 2 Chron 26)?

May-02-12
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  OhioChessFan: <<Deus Ex Alekhina> <My questions are therefore very legitimate.>

Disagreed. I don't share <YouRang> view of what displays insincerity. The fact you adamantly refuse the opportunity of the other side to use the same technique you do (Tell us what general label you wear and I promise to appeal to some of the more bizarre proponents of whatever position that is and ask ohhhhh so sincerely what you think of them)is a clear indication to me you are not sincere.

May-02-12
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  YouRang: <OhioChessFan><The fact you adamantly refuse the opportunity of the other side to use the same technique you do (Tell us what general label you wear and I promise to appeal to some of the more bizarre proponents of whatever position that is and ask ohhhhh so sincerely what you think of them)is a clear indication to me you are not sincere.>

I'm not sure I know what DEA did to deserve that, but it sounds to me like you disapprove of this "technique".

But if that's that case, why should you care if DEA refuses you the opportunity to use it?

May-02-12
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  OhioChessFan: Not losing sleep over it, but announcing his questions are legitimate is a bit much.
May-02-12
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  YouRang: <announcing his questions are legitimate is a bit much.>

I *agreed* that his questions were legitimate. I see no reason to think they are illegitimate, and you haven't offered any reason.

As for his sincerity, I don't presume to read minds. But as a matter of respect, I assume he is sincre until he convinces me otherwise.

But even if he does happen to be insincere, I don't mind having the opportunity to tell him (and anyone who might be reading) that I don't associate faith healers and babblers with Biblical Christianity.

Any reason for you to be bothered?

May-03-12
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  OhioChessFan: <announcing his questions are legitimate is a bit much> referred to DEA doing that.

<But even if he does happen to be insincere, I don't mind having the opportunity to tell him (and anyone who might be reading) that I don't associate faith healers and babblers with Biblical Christianity.

Any reason for you to be bothered?>

By you? No. I had typed out a full response to that post, fairly similar to yours, and then thought, "What's the use?" We don't have to agree on where the line of pointlessness is. I feel I've already spoken of <DEA> in the third person too much so I will bow out on that note.

May-03-12  cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...
May-03-12  cormier: <<<<<<<1 Cor 15:1-8> I am reminding you, brothers and sisters, of the Gospel I preached to you,
which you indeed received and in which you also stand.>
Through it you are also being saved,
if you hold fast to the word I preached to you,
unless you believed in vain.>

For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins
in accordance with the Scriptures;
that he was buried;
that he was raised on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures;
that he appeared to Cephas, then to the Twelve.>
After that, he appeared to more
than five hundred brothers and sisters at once,
most of whom are still living,
though some have fallen asleep.>

After that he appeared to James,
then to all the Apostles.>

Last of all, as to one born abnormally,
he appeared to me.>
May-03-12
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  playground player: <DEA> If your impression of Christianity is formed by what you see on "Christian TV," no wonder it's so bad! As for Pat Robertson, if he did not exist, the enemies of Christianity would surely have invented him.

<YouRang> Whether the questions were sincere or not, your answers certainly were, and I applaud you for them. I can't know who will be reading this page at any time: so I am glad your posts were there for anyone to read.

<OCF> I agree with your analysis of what <DEA> does. That's the conclusion I've formed after several months of reading his posts. <YouRang> has come to a different conclusion: fine. I respect that. Furthermore, I think he handled those questions much better than I would have. Knowing my fuse is rather short, these days, I kept my big mouth shut.

May-03-12
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  playground player: <Steamed Colleagues> This week's column is on universal college education: http://www.newswithviews.com/Duigon...

After I submitted the column, I came upon this article about "The Top 10 Useless College Degrees & Courses" ( www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless-college-classes-de- grees.php ) [I hope the link works!] Too bad the article doesn't tell us what you wind up paying to get a degree in David Beckham Studies, Star Trek, or Surfing.

I dissent from the writer's characterization of Philosophy or Art History as useless. These degree programs are holdovers from the days when college was all about scholarship, not a glorified vocational school. Of course something like Renaissance English Literature is "useless" (unless, of course, you happen to be a professor of Renaissance English Literature) in terms of earning a living by it. But that's not what it's for! I would not dream of putting it in the same category as "Queer Musicology."

PS: Well, there seems to be a problem with the link. However, you should be able to find the article easily enough by searching the title.

May-03-12  MORPHYEUS: <I did see Dr Peter Gammons on tv talking about his faith healing in the Philipines before a crowd of 4,000,000 stretching 6 miles deep. He showed a helicopter photo of the crowd, but no video. The photo can be seen on his website, but there is no context showing what the crowd was looking at. I thought the main body of Christians in Manila was Catholic, who supposedly don't throng to faith healers.>

I don't think "faith healer" is the correct term to use for Dr Peter Gammons. Many of these so called "faith healers" are not Christian in the true sense.

The above scenario described is not impossible to happen in the Philippines. There are a lot of born again Christians or Catholic "Charismatics" who attend these healing crusades.

May-03-12
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  OhioChessFan: http://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useles...
May-03-12
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  playground player: <OhioChessFan> Thanks for the link--honorary degree in Surfing Studies for you!
May-03-12
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  YouRang: <MORPHYEUS><I don't think "faith healer" is the correct term to use for Dr Peter Gammons>

I had never even heard of this guy before, but I would have a hard time distiguishing him from a "faith healer" based on this video from his website:

http://www.pgmi.org/miraclevideos.htm

May-03-12
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  Deus Ex Alekhina: Of course my questions are fully legitimate, and should be fully anticipated - I think some of my questions have probably been asked and answered milions of times in the last 2000 years. Those are my "softball" questions, take the opportunity to hit them out of the ballpark. Maybe I don't know the answer to them, but Christians probably should. Here is an example of a softball that I pitched to OCF months ago: Jesus said that he had not come to overthrow the law of Moses but to fulfill it - then how does urging his followers to drink the "blood" (wine) fulfill the law of prohibition of consuming blood? It may be symbolic blood, but then it represents symbolic overthrowing of the law. OCF's answer? "I don't know". Now here is a question based upon the booklet "What Does The Bible Really Teach" by the Jehovah's Witnesses. The booklet claims that the OT says Jesus was impaled upon a "stauros" (a stake), and elsewhere a "xylon" (timber or tree). Gal 3:13, which refers to Deut 21:22,23 - "hanged upon a tree" (KJV). The booklet points out that the cross was not used by the Christians until after the time of the "pagan Constantine" . And it mentions that the cross was used in pagan nature worship as well as pagan sex rites. BTW, do any of you actually believe that Constantine actually saw a cross in the sky, heard Jesus speaking, and instantly converted? Even though he (Constantine) continued to mint coins dedicated to Sol Invictus, the sun god, for another 17 years after the Milvian bridge?? Actually most of my questions come from books by Christian authors (or "former Christian" authors). I haven't even gotten around to Bishop John Shelby Spong yet - perhaps pgp thinks of the liberal Spong as the New Jersey Devil. My first book on religion was "The Case for Christ", which has become very thumb-worn now; I took copious notes on it (e.g.: he discusses the "Secret Gospel of Mark", so I had to order a book on this "secret" - but it turned out that the real secret was that Morton Smith had created a forgery).
May-03-12
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  Deus Ex Alekhina: Mistake: My previous statement says "The booklet claims that the OT says...". I meant "NT" not "OT".
May-03-12  cormier: the cup is wine(joy) to a true christian because he accept the fact only God the Son can pay for his sins for free ... tks G ps. the others want to buy the Heaven, and what is priceless and therefore impossible to be bought
May-03-12
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  YouRang: <Deus Ex Alekhina><Here is an example of a softball that I pitched to OCF months ago: Jesus said that he had not come to overthrow the law of Moses but to fulfill it - then how does urging his followers to drink the "blood" (wine) fulfill the law of prohibition of consuming blood? It may be symbolic blood, but then it represents symbolic overthrowing of the law. OCF's answer? "I don't know". >

Yes, it's clearly symbolic. But I disagree with the idea that "drinking wine that symbolically represents Christ's blood" is the same as "symbolically drinking blood". For that matter, eating the bread that represents the body of Christ is symbolic cannibalism.

<Now here is a question based upon the booklet "What Does The Bible Really Teach" by the Jehovah's Witnesses. The booklet claims that the OT says Jesus was impaled upon a "stauros" (a stake), and elsewhere a "xylon" (timber or tree). Gal 3:13, which refers to Deut 21:22,23 - "hanged upon a tree" (KJV). The booklet points out that the cross was not used by the Christians until after the time of the "pagan Constantine" .>

This if from Wikipedia: <Stauros () is the Greek word, usually translated cross, that in the Bible is used in reference to the device on which Jesus was executed. The meaning of the word has changed over the centuries.>

So, as far as I'm concerned, there's not much to be gained by quibbling over words. Does it matter greatly what the shape of "cross" was upon which Jesus was crucified?

<BTW, do any of you actually believe that Constantine actually saw a cross in the sky, heard Jesus speaking, and instantly converted? Even though he (Constantine) continued to mint coins dedicated to Sol Invictus, the sun god, for another 17 years after the Milvian bridge?? Actually most of my questions come from books by Christian authors (or "former Christian" authors). I haven't even gotten around to Bishop John Shelby Spong yet - perhaps pgp thinks of the liberal Spong as the New Jersey Devil. My first book on religion was "The Case for Christ", which has become very thumb-worn now; I took copious notes on it (e.g.: he discusses the "Secret Gospel of Mark", so I had to order a book on this "secret" - but it turned out that the real secret was that Morton Smith had created a forgery).>

Well, it sounds like you've loaded yourself up with questions from several various authors. I know that there is no end to the disputes and arguments that people have come up with over the years. I have to tell you now that I'm don't have the time nor the interest in researching all the various and sundry things you might have read.

Again, I decided in favor of belief in God and Christianity based on the prophetic evidence within the Bible. In many ways, it was much *easier* for me to believe that there is no God back in my atheist days.

A question for you: Why are you reading all this material on religion? Are you still trying to make up your mind about something?

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