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|Jul-03-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://rt.com/politics/271258-russi...|
Assuming RT announces official Russian government views, this is a worrisome article. It indicates that Putin seems to have accepted that a new Cold War has begun.
|Jul-04-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
I'm not sure the Cold War ever went away. The ring of NATO steel surrounding Russia did not appear overnight, nor did the eastward creep of that organisation. The only thing that did happen quickly was Russia's application for NATO membership being turned down.
|Jul-04-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...|
Another case of an international court in action. China already knows this court will be used against it and refuses to take part. Expected. MSM and our own local media will then bash this Chinese decision. Also expected.
Regarding the Cold War that never left and Putin's statement, for the first time, I have noticed he used the word 'opponents' for US NATO EU alliance. Before he used such terms as 'partners'. The Russian Federation for a long time thought they had left the Cold War behind along with the Soviet Union.
The shift from 'partner' to 'opponent' is a message. All the time US controlled media has been bashing Putin and hyping up the sanctions against Russia, Putin has referred to the US very diplomatically. Yet now for the first time, he is using a loaded term that redefines US Russia relations.
IMO this shows a kind of crossing the line shift in the thinking of the Russian leadership. Whereas before, they were still willing and seeking to mend fences with 'partners", most of them have now begun thinking that this is impossible.
I find this propaganda game that MSM is playing at times alarming. They are not demonizing some kind of third world country, but two of the major nuclear powers on Earth, Russia and China. The propaganda seems to be designed to program into their readership's minds the notion that a war with these two expansionist demons is on the table. If not, then the demons will swallow you up.
The links to Russia's military weapons in my previous posts indicate that it has the nuclear capability to turn all the major cities of the world into radioactive glass. Most of this nuclear capability is based on mobile ICBMs scattered all over the vast Siberian forests, impossible to detect. A nuclear strike against Russia will destroy it but a counter strike from these mobile ICBMs will be inevitable.
I haven't yet looked up on China's nuclear capability but from the little that I know, I am certain a Chinese counter strike to a US instigated war could wipe the Philippines off the map. Yet here we have our media demonizing against China as though we could actually go to war and remain unscathed.
|Jul-05-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
Does the caption to the photo on the top of the article actually refer to the National Socialist Confederation of Labor? I assume this naming is an unfortunate coincidence in bearing a resemblance to the National Socialist German Workers Party.
On the other hand, if these are left wing trade unionists, why are they shilling for the US/Philippines interests? Or are they simply straight nationalists that take common ground with the government on this issue?
<I have noticed he used the word 'opponents' for US NATO EU alliance. Before he used such terms as 'partners'.>
I didn't notice this. It is indeed a significant change of word use, representing a strong policy shift on the part of the Russian leadership. This may or may not be a coincidence, but Gazprom is closing a deal with a consortium to build a second Nord Stream, and double the amount of gas to be supplied to Germany.
The implications of this are scrutinised by Mike Whitney in Counterpunch at http://beta.counterpunch.org/2015/0... I think Whitney is a bit enthusiastic about the whole thing, as this is just a preliminary deal and it will take years for this project to be finalised, but it is interesting that Germany has signed such a deal in the midst of escalating sanctions against Russia.
|Jul-05-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark> The group's name is not familiar to me. First time I have read it. So I will judge it by its actions and by its actions, it could belong to the nationalistic camp, whatever front name it's now displaying. I also tend to distrust any political news from Reuters; always full of disinformation. I usually read Reuters political news just to see the latest in US-NATO disinformation that is circulating about. The Reuters article does not actually say anything about the group. But Reuters' choice of the picture and name indicates the article is designed to propagandize the notion that socialist oriented groups in the Philippines are also opposed to Chinese 'bullying' in the South China Sea.|
<Russian gas flowing to Germany via a second Nord Stream pipeline>
Wow. I had assumed Germany will ever act as a vassal to the US. It seems that Germany actually has a will of its own.
The question is: will US do something about it? Will they pressure Germany as they pressured Bulgaria? If so, will Germany backtrack as did Bulgaria?
Germany is the heart of EU and the European side of NATO. It's leadership is undoubtedly aware that the real motivation of the US government over the anti Russian policies is to drive a wedge between Germany/Europe and Russia. However working against such policy is another matter. It could prove risky to the leaders who do so. That the German leadership kept this whole Nordic stream project under wraps until now indicates that they fear a US backlash against them. US leadership will see it as a betrayal.
US leadership well knows that if Germany asserts an independent foreign policy away from its post WW2 vassalage to the US, it would portend the end of undisputed US geopolitical world dominance.
Yet the world may be headed that way. The old pre-WW 1 Empires are now dead, but their peoples still remain with the cultural memories of them. If ever US world empire declines, I foresee an era when the peoples of the old Empires will reassert themselves. UK has cast its lot with the US too committedly and will continue declining with the US. However, Germany in Europe, Turkey and Iran in West Asia, India, Japan, and yes Russia and China (both now on the defensive) too eventually will be striving for more geopolitical influence. Already there is a hot proxy war going on in Syria between Turkey and Iran, which I believe will continue even if US would totally withdraw all its meddling. Such a war may have been instigated and vetted by the US, but the fuel it feeds itself on has been around even before there was a US, and will only stop if Turkey and Iran can come to some kind of agreement.
Other news, Big News: In spite of all the 'yes will win' surveys in Greece (how credible were these surveys and who financed them anyway?), 'No' won resoundingly.
Any thoughts on this and possible consequences?
|Jul-06-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
<the article is designed to propagandize the notion that socialist oriented groups in the Philippines are also opposed to Chinese 'bullying' in the South China Sea.>
It seems the case, along the lines that "even the socialists hate what the communist Chinese are doing, so how bad must it be?" kind of propaganda reasoning. I googled the name of that organisation and nothing specific comes up, so that photo, and its non-attributable caption, appear to be appropos to absolutely nothing at all.
<'No' won resoundingly.
Any thoughts on this and possible consequences?>
Amazing! I had the sinking feeling that Greece would vote for its own financial suicide. Clearly they are in for tough times, but there is more hope with this vote than the alternative would have offered...a "Yes" would have meant the end of Syriza in government. Varoufakis would have resigned, and I would like to think Tsipras would have eventually offered the resignation of the government.
As that didn't happen, the future is uncertain, but like a sunrise seen through a clearing in stormy weather. It all hinges on whether Europe, Germany in particular, now make concession. They can try and ruin Greece and thereby attempt to discredit Syriza, but the electorate seems sufficiently literate politically not to be deceived by such tactics, notwithstanding a corporate media that dominates the Greek airwaves.
I suspect the eurocrats will compromise by keeping Greece in the eurozone, but on the most grudging possible terms. Still this represents a victory for Syriza, even if the country is in for many more years of hardship. The EU can't be too stingy, as Greece could easily reach out to its long time friend, Russia, and start stitching up deals, not limited to the Turkstream pipeline through their country, that could bring in more cash and credit from the BRICS zone. Like Turkey, Greece could engage in politically and economically straddling both Asia and Europe which could actually suit both continents just fine.
It's the US that will be unhappy, and that is the big wild card factor in this. Already, the second Nord Stream deal has Carter emitting high pressure steam from both ears, while Greek disobedience could attract who knows what kind of covert activity from the US and its covert agencies.
|Jul-06-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark> AFAIK there has not been any genuinely new ideological groups that have sprung up in the Philippines since the 1980s. (Aside from conscious and purposeful language/ethnic activism, which is mostly 21st century.) Just the same old groups or direct offshoots but sometimes with different front names. You are right that it <appear to be appropos to absolutely nothing at all.>|
<the second Nord Stream deal has Carter emitting high pressure steam from both ears, while Greek disobedience could attract who knows what kind of covert activity from the US and its covert agencies.>
I am watching MSM for any indication of the US reaction to these.
If you have any more thoughts on this, hope-you write them down. I will be interested to read them.
|Jul-07-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/0...|
Enlightening facts about Novorussia/Donbass.
<Right now, even according to the betrayal theory adherents, the militia has a well trained army 55-60 thousand strong. A year ago all it had was scattered partisan detachments no more than 15 thousand strong. It's almost embarrassing to ask, but who created that army?>
The Russian leadership keeps denying it under the rule of plausible deniability. Which is exactly what the US leadership does on covert operations.
In critical areas, as the video above of Russian marines fighting in Donetz airport (if accurate) shows, Russian active military servicemen get involved.
US controlled media propagandizes against this, yet it's only to be expected. On the other side, you don't hear much Russian whining on all the present day ongoing US covert operations.
Another equally important fact is reported in the same article:
<Economic activity on the Donbass is being revived, some industrial enterprises are resuming work, banks are working, the budget has money to pay salaries and pensions and, as odd as it might seem, 80% of the currency are Russian rubles.>
The implication is that Russia has integrated the Novorussian economy into its own in order to prevent a collapse. At present the economy has recovered and is beginning to become productive once again.
<Students are getting scorecards which allow them to enter not only local but also Russian universities. Students are being awarded diplomas which also allow them to enter Russian universities. Even a year ago this was a major problem. The shelling of Donetsk has not even started at that time, and the kids already were not able to receive necessary documents certifying their education--they didn't have their own, and Ukraine wasn't issuing any. Right now that issue is resolved, and so are many others.>
Social services such as education has also been supported by Russia, allowing Novorussian schools to continue operating, educating, issuing diplomas, which have been declared to be valid within Russia itself. Like the economy Novorussia's educational system has been integrated into the Russian one, thus making sure it continues. Brilliant stroke if I may say so.
Continuing social services are always a necessity to a credible government. Another way of putting it is that if the local government of Novorussia fails to provide social services for its people, then it would lose credibility among its people. At war and and with meager sources, the Novorussian government can't do it on its own. So apparently, many of the traditional functions of the Novorussian government has been integrated into the Russian government itself. (Military, currency, public servants, regulation of banking, industries, commerce, pension, and education if the article above is correct.)
It seems that Novorussia has become a part of Russia in all but formal politics.
|Jul-07-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...|
Greece And The EU Situation
<The first response of most EU politicians to the Greek referendum outcome was to bluster about Greece exiting Europe. Washington is not prepared for this to happen and has told its vassals to give the Greeks a deal that they can accept that will keep them within the EU.
Washington has a higher interest than the interests of the US financial interests who purchased discounted sovereign debt with a view toward profiting from a deal that pays 100 cents on the dollar. Washington also has higher interest than the interests of the European One Percent intent on using Greece’s indebtedness to loot the country of its national assets. Washington’s higher interest is the protection of the unity of the EU and, thereby, NATO, Washington’s mechanism for bringing conflict to Russia.>
<the Greek “debt crisis” was an orchestration from the beginning. The European Central Bank is printing 60 billion euros per month, and at any time during the “crisis” the ECB could have guaranteed the solvency of any remaining creditor banks by purchasing their holdings of Greek debt, just as the Federal Reserve purchased the troubled mortgage backed “securities” held by the “banks too big to fail.” This easy solution was not taken.>
<If reports are correct, Victoria Nuland has already paid a visit to the Greek prime minister and explained to him that he is neither to leave the EU or cozy up to the Russians or there will be consequences, polite language for overthrow or assassination. Indeed, the Greek prime minister probably knows this without need of a visit.>
<Russia and China have missed an opportunity to begin the unraveling of NATO by assisting Greece’s departure from the EU. Whatever the cost, it would be tiny in comparison to the military buildup that Washington is forcing on both countries. Russia and China might have decided that Washington could no more accept Greece’s alignment with Russia than Russia can accept Ukraine becoming a member of NATO.>
The article also describes one of the the neo-colonial ways of effecting the 'tribute' conquered peoples give to their colonial masters.
<John Perkins in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, describes the process by which Western financial interests intentionally over-lend to weaker countries and then use the pressure of the debt to force the transfer of the countries’ wealth, and often sovereignty, to the West. The IMF and its austerity programs have long played a role in the looting.>
Since most of the Russian leadership were once members of the Communist Party (and Communist Parties have been railing against the IMF and its tribute collecting operations for decades already), they certainly won't fall for this. What may sound like new revelation to Perkin's readers is decades old doctrine to them. Ditto for the Chinese leadership (wait a minute, they are members of the CP). I hate the total centralism taught by CPs, but some of their economic analysis are quite good.
On the other hand, it's surprising that most of the leaders of third world countries (including my own) do not seem to be familiar with this mechanism. The most extreme form of this mechanism is reserved for countries whose leaders absolutely refuse cooperation. The US instigate a social upheaval or war in such a country in order to effect a coup or 'regime change'. That country's infrastructure and institutions are shattered and bankrupted. US controlled institutions come up with a lending scheme. The new leaders, placed in positions of power by the US, immediately accept this scheme. They end up turning over most of the country's assets (gold and oil is a priority for the US) to US controlled institutions as debt payment plus interest. It's like you destroy a country and then make it pay you for the destruction you instigated. What a way to collect tribute.
Sometimes it makes one wish for the old colonial days when a conquering power just invaded and made you pay tribute (or tax is the more euphemistic term). It's still the same in internal colonialism. Manila gets its taxes from its fourth world captured provinces directly through state controlled institutions.
And here's something interesting which you may not be aware of. Social upheavals that US instigates are often rooted in the legitimate aspirations of captured peoples of the fourth world, seeking to free themselves from the political, economic, and ethno-cultural oppression of their centers. For captured peoples, Balkanization is actually one road to autonomy. Even if it's a US triggered partition. This phenomenon is never mentioned in articles such as Robert's, written as it is purely from the perspective of the nation-state level of organization.
Weird gray world we live in.
|Jul-08-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://tass.ru/en/world/806354
<Ukraine’s constitutional reform expands Poroshenko’s powers unlimitedly>
The article also contains this Orwellian tidbit:
<The word federalization is forbidden in Ukraine.>
Eliminate the word and you eliminate the idea.
What's going on? There are rumors that this could be related to some kind of US vs China spat. Chinese news is neutral though.
|Jul-13-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
Well there we have it. Tsipras has chosen the worst of all possible worlds. It takes real skill to do that.
Sorry about the time away. I was preoccupied with my son being ill and requiring surgery.
|Jul-13-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <my son being ill and requiring surgery.> I'm sorry. What was his illness?|
|Jul-13-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <Tsipras has chosen the worst of all possible worlds.>|
Some of his party mates may be are reacting.
|Jul-13-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <Philippines reinforcing rusting ship on Spratly >|
The whole tactic may look utterly ludicrous to an outsider. However in the context of a particular sub perspective of Philippine nationalism that is conjoined to a dependency status on the US, it's perfectly logical and smart.
The key idea is as follows:
<Besides being a military outpost, the BRP Sierra Madre is also a commissioned Philippine navy ship.
That means Manila could request U.S. military assistance under a decades-old security treaty with Washington if the ship was attacked, said senior Philippine military officials.
"Even if it's covered with rust, it will remain an active duty commissioned navy ship. It's a symbol of our sovereignty," said the Philippine general.>
The whole enterprise is based on a US military response. Without this, China can just blow that ship and all other major Philippines navy ships out of the water in a single day.
The idea must have the approval of the US government because it presupposes their military coming to the Philippine's aid. Probably it even was originally suggested by them.
Fortunately the Chinese seem to be ignoring it. Just as they had ignored the Philippine Navy blowing up Chinese boundary markers a few years ago.
Chinese news agencies never mention it. Yet here we have Reuters playing up on it. Part of the propaganda line that conditions people here to believe that a war with China is feasible and survivable as the US would come to our aid.
The whole enterprise is quite dangerous to the Philippines, even if our leadership and military are blind to it. What if the US wants a hot war with China to commence? It would be easy. Bring on a false flag: have a a US covert operation blow up that ship and all the soldiers inside it. Then arrange for MSM and the governments of the US and Philippines to officially blame China. 2 + 2 = 5. A war conjured from thin air and empty sea.
|Jul-13-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
<Some of his party mates may be are reacting.>
I certainly hope so. Syriza's policies have all been abandoned, without exception. I'm wondering whether Tsipras is foolish and timid in the extreme, or a mole planted in Syriza early in its formation. I think Tsipras was timid but the alternative wouldn't surprise.
<Bring on a false flag: have a a US covert operation blow up that ship and all the soldiers inside it. >
Indeed. Too easy. Just set up a hair trigger on a loaded gun.
Interesting developments in Ukraine. The Novorussians are steadily losing ground in the north of Lugansk and in the south around Mariupol. However, the imbroglio in Mukachevo in western Ukraine between the local mafia and the Pravy Sektor over cigarette smuggling looks like a major incident.
It seems that when the police turned up, the PS goons opened up on the police killing one of them. They are now surrounded and the police are demanding they lay down their arms and surrender. PS refuses, and Yarosh now seems to be in a bind. If he accedes, then his own goons are likely to turn up in Kiev and lynch him along with Poroshenko, if he doesn't, then other anti government sentiments will be unleashed.
I think this is the kind of event Putin was waiting for in stabilising the frozen conflict in Donbass. Do nothing overt and wait for the unsustainable regime to implode.
This may be the catalyst for that to happen.
btw my son has a condition that eventually led to the extraction of his gall bladder. I'd rather not go into details here.
|Jul-20-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <Russia makes rival U.N. move on MH17 probe after dismissing tribunal bid>|
The article is designed to give the impression that Russia is refusing to cooperate with US allies in the legitimate investigation of MH17 by rejecting their proposed tribunal. Note that Reuters political news is almost always loaded with disinformation and misinformation.
What's Russia really proposing? A new investigation that would include Russia among the investigators? This would be fairer.
With all the investigators on the same geopolitical side, any final report would lack credibility.
|Jul-21-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/co...|
IMO it's like asking the wrong question. The question should be: Why are there even pro- Confederate movements in the USA until today?
If ever the petrodollar stops being the world's reserve currency, and US economy collapses with no miracle solution of printing more fiat dollars, states in the south and west would find the idea of seceding from Washington more and more entertaining. It would be the nightmare of every President of the USA if this day ever comes and on his time.
Not sure what I would do if I were the President of the US at such a time. Probably go to war against China and defeat it, then negate US debts and do some economic plundering by virtue of military conquest, in order to balance US financial books. Dreadful scenario, but if several states are trying to break loose of the union because of a tottering economy, what else to do? War with a foreign nation always has a 'unity' effect at the start, and in the case of China, it could potentially erase US debts in a justifiable way.
Going to a nuclear war against Russia is just too dangerous. Any President who seriously plans to do this and meets his military on implementing this plan invites a coup from worried sections of the military. But it's probably still feasible with China at present.
At this time, the reasonable thing to do is a Manhattan Project aimed at developing alternative sources of energy. There are still no signs of this happening.
|Jul-21-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanraindoctor>|
I think it's a distraction, about the confederacy. Some issues like gay rights, abortion and confederate symbols generate lots of heat and little light, frequently, IMO, distracting from more pressing matters, eg: the 20 trillion dollar debt, half a dozen military adventures, revocation of civil rights and in particular the criminalisation of poverty and the tyrannosaurus in the loungeroom, climate change and environmental degradation.
I'm not denigrating any of the latter issues, as in normal times they should be top priority, and to the people who are directly and adversely affected, they are top priority. It's sad that Russia and the eastern orthodox countries are so rabidly homophobic as that not only alienates a tenth of their domestic populations that they can ill afford to upset, but a tenth of the rest of the world many of whom would otherwise be sympathetic towards their struggle against US imperial designs.
I suppose they are all symptoms of a common malaise, namely alienation through greed and its handmaiden, hate.
I'm not sure a war with China would be any happier than a war with Russia. China has plenty of nukes, although they might try and bluff China out of its claims in the South China Sea. After all, what is worth going into a destructive war? But a war with China is clearly a possible scenario.
In the case of the US sliding into economic chaos, I would see the country sliding into a garrison state, or even worse, several garrison states, outright blackmailing the world with annihilation into supplying its resources. Kind of a global protection racket. In any case, I can't see the US going down quietly or without blaming everyone else. Similarly with its vassals, although I can see it extracting the blood of its allies before turning its attentions to the more resistant non-aligned and BRICS countries, as such "aid" would be easier to extort from its own allies.
<What's Russia really proposing? A new investigation that would include Russia among the investigators? This would be fairer.
With all the investigators on the same geopolitical side, any final report would lack credibility.>
IMO it's simply a propaganda war that the West is winning hands down, at least in the West which is all that matters to Western governments. Neither the Russian nor Chinese people are under much illusion about the US and the West.
Ironically it seems to be that the more authoritarian a regime of a nation that is indifferent or hostile to US interests, much less subjugation to US corporate interests, the more they can protect their own interests. The more democratic regime, and the more committed they are to freedom of speech and to a free media, the more they become vulnerable to the usual psops and colour revolution processes the US has mastered over the last few decades. A superpower with a megatonnes of military and billions of dollars to lavish on foreign "policy" infrastructures is devilishly hard to counter by relatively impoverished countries.
Surprising, some of the Latin American countries seem to be managing, but the jury is clearly out on the final outcomes. The massive demonstrations in, and economic warfare waged against, Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela, and Bolivia underpin the continuing perils. The ideal towards which the US is aiming is the enthusiastic subjugation to and collaboration with its interests by the likes of the Filipino and Australian governments, media and ultimately the majority of the population. I see no prospect of independent interests by either of our countries in the foreseeable future.
Back to the point about a tribunal with only one geopolitical side manning the panel, clearly the fix is in and the West is going through the motions with much fury and fanfare, signifying only the requirement for compliance by the rest of the world.
|Jul-21-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
I'll be holidaying with my family for the next week or so, so I won't be posting anything in that time.
Rereading my last post almost makes me want to rewrite it, as it comes across as close to extreme, at least in its pessimism and apparent grandiosity fueling that pessimism.
Yet, I find it hard to see what I could change or water down. If it doesn't happen the way it seems to me, then whatever happens will IMO be unlikely be preferable, especially in the context of the absence of favourable developments such as you postulate with a Manhattan project of alternate energy, a wholesale reform of the financial system, the reinstatement in the US of something like the Glass-Steagal Act, the prosecution of financial frauds, strict controls over speculation and debt instruments, working towards demilitarising international diplomacy, and creating the conditions in which a genuinely free and non-corporate media can flourish. Clearly a free media is almost an oxymoron in a world utterly dominated by corporate interests.
While the US is terrorising the world with its military firepower and its economic rapacity, none of this will happen.
Our own conservative government has almost completely dismantled the alternative energy programs in this country, in other words abolished all federally funded institution, fundings and subsidies that in any way assist non-fossil fuel alternatives either for companies doing the R & D, and lately, even abolishing incentives for individuals to save energy by using alternatives to fossil fuel derived energy. Unfortunately, our government are a real bunch of knuckle dragging morons in this respect.
|Jul-21-15|| ||twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor>|
Also it seems the Novorussian rebels are retreating on all fronts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7...
|Jul-21-15|| ||twinlark: Also an interesting clip on the intentions of the recent BRICS conference in Ufa in relation to cushioning its members from dollar shocks: http://thesaker.is/brics-bid-farewe...|
|Jul-21-15|| ||twinlark: Anyway, away we go. Back in five or six days.|
|Jul-28-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: I hope you had a nice vacation with your family.
I can't seem to access TASS and RT anymore from my locality. So I end up watching RT in you tube.
As previously discussed, the BRICS goal of an alternative currency to the petrodollar looks to me as a kind of declaration of war on the US.
My impression with our discussions with <Boomie> is that he isn't (or wasn't) even aware of how importance of the institution of the fiat petrodollar is to the US economy. I am now thinking this could be true for most Americans. I don't know whether to be resigned, surprised, or shocked at this lack of knowledge. It would represent a huge disconnect in the knowledge of the common American and the US leadership, which certainly knows about it and is acting aggressively to the BRICS threat.
More news on MH17. Russia will veto any one-sided tribunal.
<Russia to veto UN tribunal on MH17 crash: ‘This will be a propaganda circus’>
It seems to me that Churkin is also saying that there should be an independent investigation BEFORE any tribunal. He is correct of course. A tribunal is essentially a judge. How can there be judgement before an investigation?
|Jul-28-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: News on a new super Earth <"The most Earth-like planet yet.">|
|Jul-28-15|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Regarding the old discussion on whether or not animals feels pain the way humans do, the Boiling Frog Experiment suggests they do not.|
Message 1: Frogs and other cold blooded creatures do not feel pain due to heat as badly as mammals do.
I think the experimenter should have rescued the frog before the water temperature boiled it to death. His point was already made, so why allow the frog to die?
Message 2: Human experimenters are capable of a shocking amount of cruelty, and yet feel detached about it.
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