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|Dec-05-16|| ||diceman: <saffuna: Rough start to that video: Concerning European nations, "They're all cucked, they're all part of the same Communist collective..."|
Makes it hard to take what he says afterward, even if it's legitimate.>
Fans of the, "Hammer/Sickle?"
|Dec-05-16|| ||diceman: <twinlark:
eurocrats seem intent on creating it, eg by cutting pensions:>
Running out of people's money is what's
<What is also disturbing is that the traditional notion of left and right seems to be doing a barrel roll or a flip. The left wing government of Greece is implementing extreme right wing austerity measures>
The <barrel roll> is moving from lies to the truth.
<the National Front in France has an economic policy that looks more like a traditional socialist or social democratic program>
It to shall pass when the money runs out.
<Overall, it seems to be a world wide revolt against the establishment.>
It's a revolt against liars/failure.
Folks are starting to realize politicians can be as bad as CEOs.
(as unthinkable as that may be)
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Trump will win the electoral college votes.
<Pennsylvania Recount Dropped by Jill Stein..
Late Thursday, lawmakers in Pennsylvania have filed a lawsuit against Jill Stein, alleging that she has threatened the state's ability to certify its electoral votes by the December 13 deadline.>
However, there seems to be pressure on the electoral college itself to vote HRC.
MSM, except Fox, isn't paying much attention to this. (Why am I not surprised?)
Has this happened in past Presidential elections?
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark: The left wing government of Greece is implementing extreme right wing austerity measures, while the National Front in France has an economic policy that looks more like a traditional socialist or social democratic program.>|
In your opinion, what should the Greek government do?
I am unfamiliar with the <National Front in France>. Why are they considered 'rightist' and what makes their economic program look socialist or socdem?
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: A hospital does get bombed in Syria. It turns out to be a Russian one, the culprits being MSM's favorite moderate head-chopping rebels.|
<2 Russian paramedics killed, 1 gravely injured in militant attack on hospital in Aleppo – MoD
The Russian Foreign Ministry has criticized western leaders after none appeared to condemn the shelling of a mobile Russian hospital by militants in Syria. Two Russian medics were killed after around a dozen of shells hit the facility in Aleppo.
“On December 5, a Russian military medic died as a mortar shell fired by militants directly hit the reception ward of a Russian mobile military hospital set up in Aleppo. Two medical specialists were also severely injured and one of them later died,” the ministry said.
“However, no words of condemnation can be heard from western capitals,” it added, criticizing western governments for their “politicized approach” to the assessment of the situation in Syria.
“We call on our partners to abandon the politicized approach and finally join the counter-terrorist efforts in Syria as well as the search for a political solution to the Syrian crisis” instead of waging a smear campaign in the media, the ministry said in its statement.
It then went on to criticize Paris and London, saying they are waging a “propaganda campaign” – in particular over the delivery of humanitarian aid.
“Our ‘concerned’ French and British colleagues cannot but know that such aid is already rendered to the Aleppo residents … by the Russian side through the Russian Reconciliation Center in Syria and the Russian Emergencies Ministry,” the foreign ministry said.
It also slammed western governments for their repeated calls to stop the government operation in Eastern Aleppo, which “increasingly resembles the last desperate attempt to shield and save the terrorists and extremists supervised by [the West], who are on the losing side in the Aleppo [battle].”>
Secular Syrians hate HRC's guts. They accuse her of lobbying for the Syrian war and gunrunning weapons from Libya to Syria in order to jumpstart Obama's failed color revolution.
I have read rumors that Ambassador Stevens knew of the above smuggling operation; that he was left to die so he could not squeal on it; that some of HRC's deleted emails were evidence of her actions.
Any comments on this?
|Dec-05-16|| ||saffuna: None of the SEVEN Republican investigations determined to harm Hillary politically found that to be true.|
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Alternative media news.
<In late October, the U.S-supported "opposition" invaded and occupied Sadad for over a week, till ousted by the nation's military. Among other atrocities, 45 Christians-including women and children-were killed, several tortured to death; Sadat's 14 churches, some ancient, were ransacked and destroyed; the bodies of six people from one family, ranging from ages 16 to 90, were found at the bottom of a well (an increasingly common fate for "subhuman" Christians).
The jihadis even made a graphic video (with English subtitles) of those whom they massacred, while shouting Islam's victory-cry, "Allahu Akbar" (which John McCain equates to a Christian saying "thank God"). Another video, made after Sadad was liberated shows more graphic atrocities.
Here are the words of Archbishop Selwanos Boutros Alnemeh, Syriac Orthodox Metropolitan of Homs and Hama (another detailed account, with pictures, appears here):
What happened in Sadad is the most serious and biggest massacre of Christians in Syria in the past two years and a half… 45 innocent civilians were martyred for no reason, and among them several women and children, many thrown into mass graves. Other civilians were threatened and terrorized. 30 were wounded and 10 are still missing. For one week, 1,500 families were held as hostages and human shields. Among them children, the elderly, the young, men and women…. All the houses of Sadad were robbed and property looted. The churches are damaged and desecrated, deprived of old books and precious furniture… What happened in Sadad is the largest massacre of Christians in Syria and the second in the Middle East, after the one in the Church of Our Lady of Salvation in Iraq, in 2010.
In the Iraqi attack of 2010, al-Qaeda linked jihadis stormed the church during service killing some 60 Christian worshippers (see here for graphic images of the aftermath).
While the archbishop is correct that this is the "largest massacre of Christians in Syria," it is but the tip of the iceberg of the persecution the nation's Christian minority has suffered-including beheadings, church bombings, kidnappings, rapes, and dislocation of hundreds of thousands of Christians-since the war broke out (see Syria entries in monthly persecution series).
A month before Sadad, another ancient Christian region, Ma'loula, one of the world's very few regions that still spoke Aramaic, the language of Jesus, was besieged by the jihadis, its churches bombarded and plundered, its inhabitants forced to convert to Islam or die. The last words of one man who refused were: "I am a Christian, and if you want to kill me for this, I do not object to it."
The archbishop concluded his statement concerning Sadad by asking: "We have shouted aid to the world but no one has listened to us. Where is the Christian conscience?>
Probably in the pit hole of political correctness (as I understand it, such a report might even be construed as Islamophobe in some circles) and MSM lie-by-omission gone crazy.
MSM will never report on these things, or will distort or obfuscate them, because the culprits are Obama-supported FSA and related groups.
BTW, secular Syrian Muslims (that fundamentalists regard as apostates) do write such news in the internet.
It's always a good thing to also read from the other side.
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: A am not so familiar with the European migrant crisis, and in fact learned about it first by reading Syrian comments in the internet. Their opinions and viewpoint is somewhat different.|
1. Most of the Syrian 'refugees' going to Europe are young males, many of them draft dodgers (a felony in Syria) or economic migrants.
2. There are significant numbers of Islamic fundamentalists among the migrants.
3. When these Islamists radicalize people and cause violence in EU immigrant-loving countries, the Syrians' reaction is: 'Good! Have a taste of your own medicine! You were the ones that helped unleash these self-righteous, throat-slitting, suicide-bombing, rapist murdering scum on us in the first place.'
For the Europeans' sake, I am hoping EU (and NATO) will dissolve. It will solve lots of problems on both sides of the Mediterranean, and abort the nascent Cold War chapter 2 between Europe and Russia.
The migrant problem will die down before becoming intractable, the individual countries will have the opportunity to fix their own countries in the best interests of their peoples without Brussels central meddling in, trade with Russia will resume to the benefit of all.
|Dec-05-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark> Admittedly, I don't know much of anything about National Front's Marie Le Pen. (I didn't even know how she looks like.)|
Here is a video from her interview with BBC. A must see IMO, as she clearly enunciates her views. (Now I know how she looks like.)
I have read of similar views from other people in the internet. I am familiar with the issues and he stand.
What strikes me is that she is a self-confessed ideologue. If this woman is elected, she will move for her vision of what France should be, regardless of opportunists around her, MSM hostility, and the culture of political correctness.
Trump actually reminds me of an ideologue himself, except that he is relatively politically unschooled.
|Dec-06-16|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <diceman> <There have been articles the poor in America live better than the middle class in the EU.>|
That's because of "trickle down economics" in the US..
Which operates on the principle that the poor, who must subsist on table scraps dropped by the rich, can best be served by giving the rich bigger meals.
|Dec-06-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Interesting development in Aleppo.
If I got it right (correct me if I am wrong), this is the sequence of events.
1. US supported jihadists shell Russian hospital. (link above)
2. Russia (with China) vetoes a proposed ceasefire.
Kerry seems to be expecting that the Russians will keep on agreeing on every ceasefire that he proposes. Each time that has happened, the jihadists have taken advantage by resupplying and redeploying.
Now to add more insult, the same jihadists intentionally shell a Russian hospital that is actually giving humanitarian aid, and so murder Russian doctors.
Does Kerry think Russia will still bend the knee to another ceasefire proposal?
Sometimes, I think Kerry and other US diplomats don't even try to see things from the other side's viewpoint. They just keep on heaping insult upon insult, until it becomes intolerable. Now apparently the Russians want to finish off all jihadists in Aleppo city, US vetted or not.
|Dec-06-16|| ||diceman: <Colonel Mortimer: <diceman> <There have been articles the poor in America live better than the middle class in the EU.>|
That's because of "trickle down economics" in the US..>
Exactly why Washington DC is a wealthy place.
<the poor, who must subsist on table scraps dropped by the "rich">
Yes, saffuna equality, welfare/food stamps is funded by the rich.
Look at the bright side, you're only "employed" on election day.
|Dec-06-16|| ||diceman: <saffuna: None of the SEVEN Republican investigations determined to harm Hillary politically found that to be true.>|
...and OJ Simpson was found "not guilty" of murder.
|Dec-06-16|| ||diceman: <saffuna:
determined to harm Hillary politically>
The Donald Trump within saffuna.
The truth/facts always hurt Hillary.
|Dec-06-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Pro Russian take on the Italian referendum. It was a move by further centralize the Italian state by turning its bicameral legislative body into a unicameral one. (Yeah, so that pro EU politicians can unilaterally ram in pro-EU legislation on to the Italian people. Come on, does Renzi think no one knows what he and pro-EU politicians are up to?) Italians voted no.|
<the 5 Stars Movement and especially the Northern League are Eurosceptics. Even ex-Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s party, Forward Italy, opposed Renzi. The results of the referendum in Italy can be considered a defeat of the Eurobureaucracy.>
If these two parties take power, Italy will leave the EU. I say good for them!
(I particularly like the Northern league. They also want to Federalize Italy. It's not surprising that they will be against anything that can centralize Italy more. Their stand is logical. The Italians, although mostly speaking mutually intelligible dialects of Italian, have profound cultural differences among their regions.)
Regarding the anti EU Hofer's defeat in Austria the article hypothesizes that it may have been due to <The “Le Pen principle”, when all establishment players unite against a right-wing non-systemic politician, worked against Norbert Hofer.>
That's just one factor. I believe another one is the strong cultural and ethnic ties of Germany and Austria. They are IMO almost at an Anschluss condition. It's not surprising that a large number of Austrians would support a German led EU.
<2017 will be a year of elections in the leading EU countries: France (presidential elections in April) and Germany (Bundestag elections in September). Italy can now also be added to this list. If early parliamentary elections will be held, then the Eurobureaucrats (=Euroliberals) will suffer blows in all three of Europe’s leading countries.>
Europe seems to be getting into a nexus point in 2017. This year will determine the fate and future of the EU.
|Dec-06-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: I had a good laugh at this one.
I think that Milo guy (or gay) is with Breitbart, but I don't care; he's hilarious. You just don't get videos like this from the MSM.
That brainwashed East Asian guy is stupidly copy-pasting CNN/ MSNBC propaganda and so when asked the details of it can only answer in the end 'You are White supremacist because you are pro-Trump.' He can't support a single statement he made. Good! A couple of years from now he can take a look at himself in You Tube and be proud of how millions of people saw him making a complete idiot out of himself. Then perhaps he would wake up and rightfully blame the MSM for idiotizing him like so.
|Dec-07-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: I just watched Zootopia. I've heard about this film, that it is regarded as socially relevant, but had zero knowledge on its contents. I actually thought it was a 'real' film, not a cartoon on rabbits and foxes.|
It's one of the most intelligently purposeful films I have ever seen on political correctness.
My opinion? It's so right and so wrong. So accurate and so confused. I like it.
|Dec-07-16|| ||diceman: <visayanbraindoctor:
not a cartoon on rabbits and foxes.>
Were they vegetarians? :)
|Dec-08-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sm...
Is political correctness the reason why there is a POC at 1:00 portraying a Greek God? (Also the Greek satyr looks POC.)
Now that I come to think about it, POCs seem to be regularly featured in all Hollywood movies, even in settings where in real life POCs are rare or absent.
If this is correct, why doesn't Hollywood place in Asians in their Greek movies too? Kind of unfair to us from one viewpoint.
From another viewpoint, why not feature an all Caucasoid cast for Greek God movies? That looks as reasonable as a Yuan dynasty setting movie that features an all cast of East Asians, which is to say it's perfectly fine.
|Dec-08-16|| ||twinlark: The depiction of Christ as a tall Caucasian male doesn't withstand historic scrutiny, unless he was a refugee from Scandinavia. More likely he was a short swarthy Palestinian with black hair, completely unlike popular depictions which seems to have been constructed to cater to European culture.|
The likely contrast can be seen in the google images, ie the popular depiction and those put together by the likes of Popular Mechanics and whatnot: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...
Similarly there were Roman Emperors that would be considered "black" by todays descriptors, especially those that were born in the provinces of Africa and perhaps even Cyprus which had a dark skinned population. Romans had little to say on the subject as their conception of race was quite different from what is generally understood today.
|Dec-08-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark: The depiction of Christ as a tall Caucasian male doesn't withstand historic scrutiny, unless he was a refugee from Scandinavia. More likely he was a short swarthy Palestinian with black hair, completely unlike popular depictions which seems to have been constructed to cater to European culture.>|
That's completely correct.
On the other hand, I often have difficulty differentiating between Levant people and Spanish or other Mediterranean peoples.
I assume Christ looked like what modern Syrian-Lebanese-Palestinians look like.
The above clip is of some Palestinian girls arguing with Israeli soldiers.
Above is a clip about Syrian President Bashar al Assad.
Above is a Lebanese singer.
For most Filipinos, if they were shown such videos, they would immediately identify the above people as Puti (White). Perhaps that's one reason why depictions of Christ as Caucasoid does not make any one here bat an eye.
On the other hand, one of the more popular images of Mary hereabouts is that of the Virgin of Guadalupe.
People here always remark how 'Filipina' she looks like. Filipinos like the Virgin of Guadalupe a lot.
(Nonetheless in real life, Mary probably looked like a typical Levantine woman, perhaps resembling the likes of Syrian First Lady Asma Assad.)
|Dec-08-16|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark: Similarly there were Roman Emperors that would be considered "black" by todays descriptors, especially those that were born in the provinces of Africa and perhaps even Cyprus which had a dark skinned population. Romans had little to say on the subject as their conception of race was quite different from what is generally understood today.>|
I think the Romans just did not care about different racial phenotypes. I've never read of any Roman account that placed any import on the racial phenotype of a Roman citizen.
|Dec-08-16|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <More likely he was a short swarthy Palestinian with black hair.>|
What? So Jesus didn't look like all American hero Charlton Heston? Square jawed and blue eyed?
|Dec-08-16|| ||Travis Bickle: <twinlark: The depiction of Christ as a tall Caucasian male doesn't withstand historic scrutiny, unless he was a refugee from Scandinavia. More likely he was a short swarthy Palestinian with black hair, completely unlike popular depictions which seems to have been constructed to cater to European culture.>|
<Colonel Abdul Azir Ali Mortimer: <More likely he was a short swarthy Palestinian with black hair.>
What? So Jesus didn't look like all American hero Charlton Heston? Square jawed and blue eyed?>
You 2 Screwheads are really Laurel & Hardy with your attempts at comedic scientific knowledge. According to you Jesus Christ who was born in Bethlehem, lived in Nazareth & was called the King of the Jews looked liked an ISIS leader like this...
Ali Baba Bin Sharif Mortimer, Jesus Christ lived in the desert so he would have had a dark complexion brown eyes & dark brown hair but not a Koran thumping psychotic mudering guerilla! lol
According to you 2 Oracles, this is what Julius Caesar looked like..
|Dec-08-16|| ||Travis Bickle: Here's a history lesson for you 2 Oracles of all that is known in the universe... ; P|
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