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Mar-06-20  Petrosianic: These are all good. Looks like 20 is not super-rare but 30 is.

Another one.

Pillsbury beat Showalter 25 times.

Mar-06-20
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  MissScarlett: One shouldn't put too much faith in the exhaustiveness of the CG database, especially before that of the Internet era. For instance, Harding has the head-to-head (in 'serious' tournament & match games) between Steinitz and Blackburne at 24-9. Blackburne's overall score against Bird is 28-10.
Mar-06-20  Petrosianic: Oh, an obvious two:

La Bourdonnais beat McDonnell 46 times
McDonnell beat La Bourdonnais 28 times

Mar-06-20  Larryfyffe: I think whoever double checks these matters, will find that the correct dates for the John De Soyres chess profile be 1847-1905 (not1849)
Mar-06-20
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  beatgiant: <Petrosianic>

I agree it's hard to find more 30-win cases.

For the original 20-win scope, don't forget about top woman players; for example Gaprindashvili has 20 wins against Kushnir.

Mar-06-20
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  MissScarlett: Here's how it works - you provide the evidence that establishes 1847 as the preferred date, and we'll go from there.
Mar-06-20
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  Tabanus: https://theweekinchess.com/ is up again, more or less.
Mar-06-20
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  Paint My Dragon: <John De Soyres>

Gaige says 26/4/1849.

A Births, Marriages & Deaths check says June 1847.

Birth district (Somerset) given by BMD matches that given by Gaige.

I'd probably say BMD is more likely correct, particularly if <LarryFyffe> has seen other corroborating evidence.

Mar-07-20
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  beatgiant: <Paint My Dragon> <other corroborating evidence> Cambridge Univ. has the following profile for him:

http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/s...

Which says:

B. [Apr. 26, 1847], at Bilbrooke, Old Cleeve, Somerset.

Mar-07-20
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  Tabanus: <Annie> No edit field in Aeroflot Open (Rapid KO) (2013). Plus: rounds 1.1, 1.2, 2.1 and 2.2 are Rapid, rounds 1.3 and 2.3 are Armageddon.

And no TI/edit field in Aeroflot Rapid Finals (2013)

Mar-07-20
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  Tabanus: <A Births, Marriages & Deaths check says June 1847.>

That sounds convincing, though I could not find it in Ancestry com. Only in the Cambridge alumni, plus the censuses indicate 1848 or 1847.

Mar-07-20  Larryfyffe: <Scarlet> No, that's not how it always works...

I noticed the possibility of an error, and other contributors with the know-how were able to come up with evidence....

Of course I could have decided not to bother mentioning the possibility of an error at all.

Mar-07-20
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  MissScarlett: <I noticed the possibility of an error>

How did this manifest? A dream or other form of divination?

Mar-07-20  Larryfyffe: Don't be a jerk < Scarlet> .... .it was of course a divination
Mar-07-20
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  Annie K.: <Jess> I suspect it had more to do with the parentheses than the length, but in any case sounds like a good occasion to use the WhiteChessgamesID and BlackChessgamesID tags if you want to upload more of his games. :)

<Tab> ok, the Aeroflots should be all sorted out now.

Mar-07-20
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  Tabanus: <Annie> Thanks! And intros added.

If I should nitpick, I now prefer "Rapid Qualifier" and "Rapid Final", also because others have used those names.

Mar-07-20
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<Annie> <use the WhiteChessgamesID and BlackChessgamesID tags>

That is a most excellent idea! We know in advance it is guaranteed to work.

Mar-08-20
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  MissScarlett: <Tab>, need a DOD for Lee W Parke. Relax, he's American, not Korean.
Mar-09-20
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<MissScarlett> That couldn't be a bona fide Korean name. There are no initials in any Korean names.

<Lee W Parke> no.

<Lee-won Parke> ok.

Or

<Parke-in Lot>

Mar-09-20
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  Tabanus: I cannot immediately find him.

Lee is a common name or nickname, and Parke is often read as Parks. Plus Chicago is notoriously difficult. And who says he was born in 1871.

Mar-09-20
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  MissScarlett: The <BDE> profile, as mentioned.
Mar-09-20  Olavi: <beatgiant: Petrosianic Retireborn: MissScarlett: >

In Nimzowitsch: A Reappraisal, Keene counted Nimzo - Spielmann as +18 -13 =19. This database has +16 -8 =15. A rough check with a few obvious names suggests that to be a representative ratio for that period.

Mar-09-20  Petrosianic: <Olavi> Yes, since the database may be incomplete, I'm having to borrow a concept from the World War I Flying Aces, and count only "confirmed kills". They may have additional unconfirmed victories, so the tally may change later.
Mar-09-20
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  beatgiant: <MissScarlett>,<Tabanus>

I can't find a death date for Lee W Parke, but in case it helps, I did find a marriage of Lee W Parke with Etta Blanc, Sept. 23, 1922. Source: Cook County, Illinois marriage indexes 1912-1942.

Mar-09-20
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  Tabanus: California Death Index has a Lee W Parke, 58 (= 1871), died 27 Dec 1929 in San Diego, California. Could be him.

Obituary notice in Evening Tribune, San Diego, Dec 28, 1929:

<Parke - at 3363 Felton street, Dec. 27, 1929, Lee Wesson Parke, brother of Mrs. Adelaide Low, San Diego; Everett B. Parke, Cardiff, Calif.; Pearle F. Adair, Lynbrook, M. Y.; Philip B. Parke, Washington, D. C.; aged 58 years, member of Garden City lodge 141, A. F. & A. M., Appolo Commandery No. 1 and Medinah Temple of Chicago. ...... Cremation. ...> (wife not mentioned)

Entering 1929 as DOD there is a family tree popping up:

Levi Wesson Parke, b. 31 Aug. 1871 in Hyde Park, Chicago, d. 1929 in San Diego. Marriage not mentioned.

--> cf. https://ancestors.familysearch.org/..., <Levi Wesson Parke> 1871- is most likely him.

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