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| Oct-17-21 | | metatron2: <HeMateMe: Fischer had the chess rich culture of NYC to help him. BF was by no means alone> Compared to soviets that was like zero support.
<HeMateMe: China and india have been pouring money and people into chess, 2.5B people. Yet just one WC, Anand> Actually, when Anand worked his way to the top, India didn't put money into chess, it was actually Anand who increased chess popularity in India, after he was successful. <HeMateMe: I do think china will have one in the near future> As I said, today, strong "chess culture" is not critical for the success of an individual chess player, since he can get everything he needs over the net. If we look at recent times, we can see that countries with rich chess-culture, were able to generate a lot of strong players (Russia, China, India, and some countries from the previous USSR).
Yet they did not show advantage in generating the best players in the world. If anything, I'd say that all that group training takes a way some of the creativity and self motivation, and reduces the chance to generate a real world champion (India is now much stronger in chess, yet they did not even come close to generate another Anand..). |
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| Oct-17-21 | | fabelhaft: <Nak grew up here, the rest didnt> Caruana was born in and lived in the US his first dozen years, and has lived there also the last seven years. In between he lived for a while in Spain, Hungary and Switzerland, while representing Italy. But he feels quite US after all. |
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Oct-17-21
 | | HeMateMe: NYC had plenty of GMs when fischer was a kid, and many IMs who would be GMs under todays watered down standards. The USA olympiad teams were NY area grandmasters. The strongest chess clubs in america were in new York city and were all accessible by a subway system running 24/7. Plenty of strong chess hustlers to compete against as well. Of course no one had as much talent as Moscow and leningrad but one shouldn't imply that fischer was on a deserted island with a treasure chest of Informants. |
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| Oct-17-21 | | Tiggler: Back to the present. Great win by Caruana today. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Albertan: US Chesschamps 8-9:Caruana back in the hunt:
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/us... |
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| Oct-18-21 | | parmetd: More than a dozen years. Let's not forget he was an IM 2400+ before he left. |
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Oct-18-21
 | | Dionysius1: <<fabelhaft>But he [Caruana] feels quite US after all.>. I remember that sometime while I was a university student in Wales 1974-78, the Students Union declared that you were Welsh if you felt Welsh. It got published as far as the Cambrian News. I wasn’t even a wee bit convinced even though I loved being in Wales. |
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Oct-18-21
| | Dionysius1: Though I loved being in Wales, I got the feeling to be Welsh you needed to have been born there, ideally more than once. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | diceman: <HeMateMe: how did sparsely populated Norway give us a chess genius> The computer. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: Sevian has drawn already (with black). So and Caruana both have white. I am looking for the tie-break rules. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: If players are tied for first place there will be a playoff. I guess that would favor So. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Albertan: US Chess Championships Round 10: Caruana shares first,Yip Women’s Champ: https://www.chess.com/news/view/202... |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Albertan: Fabi hits thé front:
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/us... |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Albertan: Caruana shares the lead:
https://en.chessbase.com/post/us-ch... |
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| Oct-18-21 | | gary11201: To He Mate Me: How did Norway, a country with a small population, produce a champion like Carlsen? The same way Cuba produced Capablanca and the Netherlands produced Euwe. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: Caruana about to win outright. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: I am not using an engine, but I think Caruana may have blundered on move 44. He had to play Re2. |
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Oct-18-21
 | | saffuna: Looks like Caruana gave away a winning position. Moving his rook along the first rank on move 44-45 was a loss of time. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: He is fighting for a draw now. The rook should never have gone to the first rank on move 44. |
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Oct-18-21
 | | FSR: Is Jeffery Xiong's mother Ma Xiong? |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Tiggler: Draw. 3-way playoff. |
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Oct-18-21
| | saffuna: So a three-way tie for first place.
I thought 45. e6 was easily winning for Caruana, but it wasn't after 45...Rg3. |
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| Oct-18-21 | | RookFile: Nice, leisurely draw from So today.
Why exert yourself? |
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| Oct-18-21 | | Steve.Patzer: Caruana had it won until a slight miscalculation on move 39 but threw it away on move 45. |
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Oct-19-21
| | FSR: <HeMateMe: . . . Of course no one had as much talent as Moscow and leningrad but one shouldn't imply that fischer was on a deserted island with a treasure chest of Informants.> No, one shouldn't. Informant didn't exist until 1966, almost a decade after Fischer first won the U.S. Championship. |
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