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Sep-24-24
 | | Atterdag: Hi Geoff,
I may have stretched Larsen's view a bit. He was primarily against ratings at the olympics for the mentioned reasons. I don't think medals meant a lot to him in general, but his basic view was that you can't single out a player's individual performance, when he plays for the team and the strategy, its captain has decided. Anyway, it is a long tradition, and if it makes players happy then by all means. :-) |
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Sep-24-24
| | Atterdag: <Thanks to Wesley So for his contributions when everybody seem to have given up the podium. Silver medal isn’t that bad. Go Wesley!> And thanks to Caruana for performing exactly the same score as So (+4 -1 =5), and an even bigger thanks to Aronian, who scored +6 -0 =4. |
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| Sep-24-24 | | fabelhaft: <Magnus Carlsen (33) told a bystander at the bus stop "If chessgames,com cannot be bothered to mention my 2022 bronze what is the point of accepting another. If they don't care then neither do I."> Bios just aren't updated, the last tournament victory mentioned in the Carlsen bio was played in 2020. So there is no mention of his winning the World Cup 2023 or Norway Chess 2021, 2022 and 2024, or Tata 2022. Carlsen has after all been a fairly central player these years, but still no bio updates. Nepo for example has two individual silvers that aren't mentioned in his bio. But I think the individual Olympiad medals are considered comparatively unimportant also apart from the lack of updates. Smyslov has the most Olympiad medals of all players (eight individual and nine team golds) but it isn't even mentioned in his bio that he ever has played in an Olympiad. |
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Sep-24-24
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi fabelhaft,
The Olympiad medal winners are important enough to have their own presentation on every board at the close of the event. Carlsen's bio does mention he played in previous Olympiads where we are reliably informed: "His best result was in the 2006 Olympiad." So why not update the bio of the player who was officially voted GOAT for the last 100 years (we will be waiting another 100 years for that to hit his bio as well.) Someone has been in tampered with Carlsen's page. since 2022. His notable tournaments includes, The 2023 Bullet Chess Championship (an event Magnus did not win) and the 2024 Speed Chess Finals. Of course these are chess.com events and the format of this site has long been to promote everything and all things chess.com. |
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| Sep-24-24 | | fabelhaft: <Someone has been in tampered with Carlsen's page. since 2022. His notable tournaments includes, The 2023 Bullet Chess Championship (an event Magnus did not win) and the 2024 Speed Chess Finals> That is true, but then those online speed chess events were much more significant than the unmentioned Tata, World Cup and Norway Chess titles in classical :-) |
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| Sep-24-24 | | fabelhaft: Of course Carlsen is a bit special so his classical tournament wins have at least been updated until 2020. The Caruana bio states that <his World Championship challenge to Carlsen will be played in London in November 2018> and had its last update more than six years ago. One would think that his title match in 2018 might have been worthy of an update if none of his later events have been, like winning Tata 2020 with a two point margin ahead of Carlsen, after going +7. Nepo won the Candidates twice and played a title match against Ding but none of these events are mentioned in his bio. So I don't think the site bios are seen as all too important. |
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Sep-24-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi fabelhaft,
<So I don't think the site bios are seen as all too important.> I think Bio's here are important and some of the bio's on the past players from master to wood pusher are excellent and testament to a lot research. Their bio's and their games are the main attraction of the site making it totally unique. I am also aware updating every players bio who played a significant part in an event is truly balls aching. It is no wonder a lot of bio's appear half hearted, out of date and given up on. The criteria should be no bio until the player is no longer with us. Delete all the bio's of the live players, just have the D.O.B. age, federation they play for and current title. (and if possible an up to date picture...here Caruana is still playing for Italy. Fabiano Caruana and the one of David Howell was taken when he was still at school.) |
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| Sep-25-24 | | Everett: <jphamlore: What happens if India keeps churning out prodigies at this rate? The current system of a very few closed invitationals will be in an impossible situation, because they don't want 1/2 of their field to be from one country, but that might be the correct percentage of top players in a decade.> If only there was some historical precedent to look back to… |
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Sep-25-24
 | | HeMateMe: Does anyone know if judit Polgar put in an appearance at this event? |
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Sep-25-24
 | | Williebob: <HeMateMe>, Judit was a major presence at the event. She was the "torch bearer" for the opening ceremony, and I think was visible daily as an honored representative of the host nation.
Wikipedia's front page currently features the article on the 45th Olympiad, and in that article I see Judit Polgar listed on the right hand info-graphic as the "Cauldron"... no idea what that is supposed to mean!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_... |
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Sep-25-24
| | Williebob: Okay, I just saw in the Wikipedia article that Judit lit the official cauldron, which must explain that reference on the page. Still looks clunky. |
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Sep-25-24
| | Atterdag: You can see Judit Polgar in the closing ceremony on several pictures here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/fide/... |
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Sep-25-24
 | | perfidious: <Atterdag>, Judit is definitely not as I remember her from two events held in summer 1992 in New York, much less as the little girl who could barely see the top of the table in the 1987 New York Open. Alex Cherniack (kibitz #1) |
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| Sep-25-24 | | Bobby Fiske: Judit the fashion model!
https://x.com/garylanechess/status/... |
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Sep-26-24
| | HeMateMe: thanks people! I was thinking she might shy away, no longer being a competitive player. Nice to see an all time great stay in as a positive presence. That "little girl who needed to sit on a stacked chair" sure did beat some ass at the New York Open though! Loved reading about it in Chess Life. |
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Sep-28-24
 | | Dionysius1: When Lazlo Szabo and Attila Mihok (Hungarian Chess Federation and National Sports Agency for Hungary, respectively) signed the contract for the 45th Olympiad back in 2021 there was talk of holograms as part of its commitment to new technologies. Ring bells with anyone? I'd love to see what that amounted to! |
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| Sep-28-24 | | Messiah: <Dionysius1: When Lazlo Szabo and Attila Mihok (Hungarian Chess Federation and National Sports Agency for Hungary, respectively) signed the contract for the 45th Olympiad back in 2021 there was talk of holograms as part of its commitment to new technologies. Ring bells with anyone? I'd love to see what that amounted to!> https://creative-factory.com/portfo... this one? |
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Sep-28-24
| | Dionysius1: Hi <Messiah> I don't think so - that's for the 2022. I was hoping for something more chessical for 2024. |
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| Oct-02-24 | | fabelhaft: When the World Champion plays an Olympiad and there is in all one single comment on his games, things are not like they used to be. The game against his highest rated opponent (Caruana) hasn’t even been added to the database. I guess no one misses it. For completeness it would make sense if it was included though. |
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Oct-02-24
 | | tamar: Well, Ding-Caruana was a ten move draw by repetition, so not too much to say. |
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| Oct-02-24 | | fabelhaft: Indeed, even if excluding such games from the database messes a bit with event results and career scores. It actually wasn’t entirely uninteresting while it was played. Someone made a convincing argument about Caruana playing the perfect opening with offering a repetition, where Ding thought for more than 20 minutes on his last move alone if he should go for his final part of the sequence. Being white in a difficult match they eventually would go on to lose he had reasons to consider his options. Then Caruana was supposed to deviate and have a huge time advantage and go on to crush the surprised Ding when he got into time trouble instead of getting the expected draw. This made following the game interesting for a while, before it ended as it did and it turned out that there actually never had been anything remotely interesting about it… |
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Oct-02-24
 | | MissScarlett: <The game against his highest rated opponent (Caruana) hasn’t even been added to the database. I guess no one misses it.> I hadn't noticed. It was weeded out in the upload process because it coincided with S Ribera Veganzones vs D Smerdon, 2024, albeit that game started as a Sicilian. I'm usually on the alert for such happenings, but Olympiads include hundreds of games per round. |
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| Oct-02-24 | | stone free or die: <<Missy> I hadn't noticed. It was weeded out in the upload process because it coincided with S Ribera Veganzones vs D Smerdon, 2024, albeit that game started as a Sicilian.> <CG> should change this outmoded policy for uploading tournament games - especially given that disk space is dirt cheap these days. Another example where <CG> has some arbitrary policy prohibiting accurate construction of an xtab from the PGN games. |
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Oct-02-24
| | MissScarlett: Ding Liren vs Caruana, 2024 now joins the <cg> pantheon. |
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| Oct-02-24 | | stone free or die: <Missy> at the helm of the good ship <CG>-pop... https://luxuryretail.co.uk/wp-conte... It's the CG candyland hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLL... |
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