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🏆 Armenia - The Rest of the World (2004)

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Garry Kasparov, Viswanathan Anand, Boris Gelfand, Peter Svidler, Peter Leko, Michael Adams, Etienne Bacrot, Francisco Vallejo Pons, Loek van Wely, Vladimir Eduardovich Akopian, Rafael Vaganian, Smbat Gariginovich Lputian

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Leko vs Adams  ½-½242004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC87 Ruy Lopez
2. Bacrot vs Vaganian ½-½342004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC18 French, Winawer
3. Akopian vs F Vallejo Pons  ½-½322004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
4. Vaganian vs Anand  ½-½192004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldE00 Queen's Pawn Game
5. Bacrot vs Leko ½-½272004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldE20 Nimzo-Indian
6. F Vallejo Pons vs Kasparov ½-½342004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB97 Sicilian, Najdorf
7. Gelfand vs Van Wely  ½-½262004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldA34 English, Symmetrical
8. Svidler vs Vaganian  ½-½192004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC18 French, Winawer
9. Adams vs Lputian  ½-½332004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC09 French, Tarrasch, Open Variation, Main line
10. Kasparov vs Bacrot ½-½662004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
11. Anand vs Gelfand ½-½302004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC42 Petrov Defense
12. F Vallejo Pons vs Vaganian  ½-½482004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldC18 French, Winawer
13. Leko vs Svidler ½-½202004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
14. Kasparov vs Adams  ½-½452004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldA30 English, Symmetrical
15. Vaganian vs Van Wely  ½-½442004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldE54 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Gligoric System
16. Bacrot vs Akopian  ½-½202004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldE20 Nimzo-Indian
17. Adams vs Gelfand  ½-½202004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
18. Svidler vs Kasparov ½-½582004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
19. Akopian vs Svidler  ½-½162004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB42 Sicilian, Kan
20. F Vallejo Pons vs Leko  ½-½182004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldE15 Queen's Indian
21. Van Wely vs Lputian  ½-½312004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldD58 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tartakower (Makagonov-Bondarevsky) Syst
22. Gelfand vs Bacrot ½-½702004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldD15 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
23. Anand vs Kasparov ½-½262004Armenia - The Rest of the WorldB33 Sicilian
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jun-15-04  Tigran Petrosian: Very close match.
Jun-15-04  shr0pshire: Yeah World! Way to represent.
Jun-16-04  rochade18: Is the Team of the smallest republic in the Caucasus really so strong that it may have a chance to win against the "rest of the world"?
Jun-16-04  acirce: <rochade18> With a little help from Kasparov and Leko it is. This wasn't really Armenia, it was more like "Armenian and Armenian-related players"..

But actually Armenia is a quite strong chess country, especially considering its size. Only Russia has more players in Libya FIDE WC, for example.

Jun-16-04  acirce: Maybe this page should even change its name as "Armenia vs Rest of the World" wasn't the official title of the event, but "Tigran Petrosian Memorial". The "Armenian" team was called "The Team named after Tigran Petrosian".

Jun-16-04  rochade18: Yes I see. I forgot that Kasparov has an Armenian mother. I've read somewhere that Garry was Born in Azerbaidjan and then became a Russian. But on the other hand he is son of Armenian and (German-)Jewish parents.
Jun-16-04  acirce: Yes, Garry was born in Azerbaijan, part of the USSR by then of course. His mother was Armenian. Leko is married to an Armenian and Gelfand was a student of Petrosian's.
Jun-16-04  Swindler: On the issue about big chess countries, wouldn't Iceland rank high? I've heard they have the most GM's per capita in the world.

Anyway, these are good games! Nice to see the world top playing eachother.

Jun-16-04  acirce: <Swindler> Iceland has about 300.000 inhabitants and 9 GM's which is quite a feat. None of them is close to the top though unless you want to count Hjartarson.
Jun-16-04  Swindler: True, but they have Helgi and Fridrick Olafsson who are over 2500, but it's still a way to the top.

Why can't you count Hjartarson? Has he emigrated?

Jun-16-04  acirce: I don't know if I'd count a 2640'er as <close to the top> but of course it depends on what you mean with close and what you mean with the top! :)
Jun-16-04  Swindler: Fair point! Still an impressive country though.
Jun-17-04  MoonlitKnight: If China had the same ratio of GMs, they would have a total of about 40.000 GMs. That would really be something!
Jun-17-04  600POUNDGORILLA: Don't kid yourself. China is well on the way to 40,000 GMs. Give them a few years.
Apr-24-07  Hot Logic: ha! 400 in 30 years maybe, but if there are 40,000 GMs they will have to scrap the title because it won't mean anything anymore.

I think the current GM title is still worth *something* because it's a useful reference for comparison to ordinary players, but then again, it seems rather 'easy' to reach expert strength these days, so maybe everything should be bumped down a notch?

Sep-12-07  hovik2003: <Hot Logic>
Your logic is so hot I have to throw away into river. Don't kid around yourself, quality always overcomes quantity. P.S. You want an example, go over Turine2006 results and you see how China got wiped up by little Armenia.
Sep-12-07  Davolni: I am sure if Aronian played at the time, that 1 point difference would have been a no problem, and "Armenia" team would easily win.
Sep-12-07  chessmoron: <hovik2003> 2.5-1.5 is not getting wiped, you fool.
Sep-12-07  Resignation Trap: <chessmoron> is right, 2.5-1.5 isn't being "wiped up", it's a minimal win. At the same event, the Chinese women defeated their Armenian counterparts 2-1.

So, how about a team match "Armenia vs. China" ?

May-13-08  Akuni: Teams were:
Armenia: (-1)
Kasparov +1
Akopian -1
Vaganian +1
Lputian -2
Gelfand -2
Leko +2

World: Total (+1)
Anand +1
Svidler +2
Adams =
Bacrot +1
Van Wely -3
Vallejo Pons =

A very close match. Consolations to van Wely, he does try so very hard.

(As you can see, the World team wasn't as strong as possible, which is of course forgivable, and the Armenian team was bolstered by others. Again, we can let it slide)

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  whiteshark: Kasparovian, Gelfandian and Lekonian were indeed Armenians, weren't they?
Jul-31-08  khursh: Kasparov = Gasparian (mother is Armenian)
Gelfand = Petrossian's last student
Leko = Wife and coach are Armenians

"Armenians" is not the same as "team Armenia"

But you can argue that others don't have world nationality :) otherwise how could they represent world ? only communists could argue that they are true internationals to represent the world:))))))

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  whiteshark: <"Armenians" is not the same as "team Armenia"> Thank you for the explanations, <khursh>! Now it make sense.
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