| page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 91
|1. L Bruzon Batista vs Kramnik
||½-½||26||2005||Corus Group A||E14 Queen's Indian|
|2. Grischuk vs Anand
||½-½||22||2005||Corus Group A||C80 Ruy Lopez, Open|
|3. Judit Polgar vs Svidler
||1-0||30||2005||Corus Group A||C89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall|
|4. Short vs Adams
||½-½||23||2005||Corus Group A||C99 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Chigorin, 12...cd|
|5. I Sokolov vs Leko
||½-½||51||2005||Corus Group A||D47 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav|
|6. Morozevich vs Van Wely
||½-½||50||2005||Corus Group A||A34 English, Symmetrical|
|7. Topalov vs Ponomariov
||1-0||64||2005||Corus Group A||B48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation|
|8. Adams vs Morozevich
||1-0||49||2005||Corus Group A||C42 Petrov Defense|
|9. Anand vs Leko
||0-1||57||2005||Corus Group A||B33 Sicilian|
|10. Ponomariov vs Judit Polgar
||1-0||56||2005||Corus Group A||B90 Sicilian, Najdorf|
|11. Svidler vs I Sokolov
||½-½||43||2005||Corus Group A||C80 Ruy Lopez, Open|
|12. Grischuk vs Short
||½-½||34||2005||Corus Group A||C91 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|13. Kramnik vs Topalov
||0-1||20||2005||Corus Group A||B80 Sicilian, Scheveningen|
|14. Van Wely vs L Bruzon Batista
||½-½||32||2005||Corus Group A||D63 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense|
|15. I Sokolov vs Ponomariov
||0-1||61||2005||Corus Group A||E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical|
|16. Judit Polgar vs Kramnik
||½-½||59||2005||Corus Group A||B33 Sicilian|
|17. Morozevich vs Grischuk
||0-1||42||2005||Corus Group A||B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4|
|18. L Bruzon Batista vs Adams
||½-½||30||2005||Corus Group A||C91 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|19. Leko vs Svidler
||1-0||57||2005||Corus Group A||B90 Sicilian, Najdorf|
|20. Short vs Anand
||½-½||23||2005||Corus Group A||B12 Caro-Kann Defense|
|21. Topalov vs Van Wely
||½-½||19||2005||Corus Group A||B30 Sicilian|
|22. Van Wely vs Judit Polgar
||½-½||58||2005||Corus Group A||A35 English, Symmetrical|
|23. Short vs Morozevich
||1-0||43||2005||Corus Group A||C41 Philidor Defense|
|24. Grischuk vs L Bruzon Batista
||½-½||22||2005||Corus Group A||D35 Queen's Gambit Declined|
|25. Adams vs Topalov
||1-0||41||2005||Corus Group A||B90 Sicilian, Najdorf|
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|Feb-08-05|| ||lenehc: for me the "best" game is the one where there is a true fight and no visible blunders so : Leko - Svidler
impressive performance by Leko from the biginning to the end . It is difficult to see where Svidler made a real bad move and he lost without having a chance "à la Petrossian" |
|Feb-08-05|| ||acirce: <iron maiden> The question was clearly "Which is the best game from the A - section"? People seem to have vastly different definitions of the word 'good'. Not saying it's wrong to equate 'good' with 'memorable', but it becomes confusing, especially since it's only done in a context like 'best game' and very rarely, for example, 'best player'. |
|Feb-08-05|| ||Where is my mind: <fgh> I'll vote Kramnik - Svidler as best game of the tournament. |
|Feb-08-05|| ||fgh: The question was "what is the best game from the A - section", even if the game was one-sided. Not the most memorable, neither "I'am a Kramnik hater Kramnik - Topalov was the best game". |
|Feb-08-05|| ||square dance: <fgh> i read your profile and you seem like a reasonably intelligent individual, so im wondering how you could come to the conclusion that kramnik/topalov was the best game? this was a completely one side affair that was only interesting because the world champion got smashed in 20 moves. topa introduced a novelty and kramnik responded badly and that was that. in the book of the worlds greatests chess games, by nunn, graham, and burgess they make the case that a great game is played well on both sides of the board. i personally happen to agree. |
|Feb-08-05|| ||square dance: <fgh> upon further reading, maybe i misunderstood. if you are not of the opinion that kramnik/topalov was the best game, then disregard my post. but everyone who voted for it should give it a good read. ;-) |
|Feb-08-05|| ||radu stancu: <square dance:>
From Jan 30:
<fgh: Personally I would vote for Ponomariov vs Kramnik, 2005 and L Bruzon vs Topalov, 2005.>
What you understood the second time might be the right thing. :)
|Feb-08-05|| ||fgh: <SD>: I didn't vote for Kramnik - Topalov, that was just the result of the public vote. |
|Feb-08-05|| ||tpstar: I predict that next time we'll have a prediction contest for the Best Game, then another prediction contest for the Most Memorable Game, then another prediction contest predicting who would predict what ... |
|Feb-09-05|| ||iron maiden: <in the book of the worlds greatests chess games, by nunn, graham, and burgess they make the case that a great game is played well on both sides of the board.> Yet they include in the book Anderssen's Immortal and Evergreen games, which everyone knows to be completely one-sided affairs made famous only because of the material sacrificed, along with Larsen's 17-move fiasco against Spassky in 1970, Bogo's back-rank blunder against Capa, and so forth. As it is there really isn't a game from Corus that jumped out and grabbed me, so I came within a fraction of voting for Kramnik-Topalov myself. |
|Feb-09-05|| ||square dance: well out of 112 games, if you have the 2002 edition, i dont know if you can blame them for putting a few famous games in there. as far as the anderssen games, im not really sure(that is i forget) if the opponent played that badly for that period of time. at least there were brilliant combo's involved, not some home prep novelty. if kramnik hadnt reacted so badly would there even be ANY consideration for best game prize? i mean, basically what people are voting on is actually how bad the game was, not how good it was. that notion just seems to defy logic. if people want to applaud blunders then they should watch you and i play on chess21. ;-) also im sure there was some desire to represent certain players like spassky as a winner instead of fischer's whipping boy. not to mention, the combination against larsen was quite good. and the thing about the kramnik/topalov (non)game is that kramnik lost in the opening. its not as if it was some tense struggle that was only lost by a late miscue, it was a first round knock out. for starters the leko/kramnik game was MUCH better. in this game, like the one against topalov, kramnik is faced with a novelty, but this time he actually finds equality over the board instead of getting wiped out. to me, common sense tells me that that game is almost automatically better. |
|Feb-09-05|| ||iron maiden: <out of 112 games, if you have the 2002 edition> Changing the subject a little, I actually haven't gotten around to updating my copy yet. What recent games ('98 or later) do they include in the newer edition? |
|Feb-09-05|| ||square dance: actually it was reprinted 2004, but the latest game is from 2002. anyway the list of new games...|
101. atalik-sax, szeged 1997
102. gelfand-shirov, polanica adroj 1998
103. veingold-fridman, zonal tournament,tallinn 1998
104. nunn-nataf, french team ch. 1998/9
105. kasparov-topalov, wijk aan zee 1999
106. topalov-anand, linares 1999
107. topalov-ivanchuk, linares 1999
108. svidler-adams, neum 2000
109. i. sokolov-dreev, dos hermanas 2001
110. gelfand-kantsler, israel 2001
111. kramnik-anand, dortmund 2001
112. sutovsky-smirin, isreali ch., tel aviv 2002
|Feb-09-05|| ||iron maiden: Okay, thanks. Next time I'm at my bookstore I'll try to pick up a copy. |
|Feb-09-05|| ||square dance: i had bought the 1998 edition in 2000, or 2001 before i was even into chess! my original copy was ruined when a friend of mine spilled a glass of water all over my book, without realizing it. so when i saw the updated copy for $12.95 i just had to pick it up. |
|Feb-18-05|| ||Phoenix: <sd> I make a habit of taping my favorite paperback chess books with tape. It helps the book stay together longer and repels water. Some people I know think this is strange, but it works, and gets a nice shine to it :-) |
|Feb-18-05|| ||square dance: <phoenix> actually thats a good idea. when my original copy of "the worlds greatest chess games" was ruined i went online looking for another one, and that is how i began my chess book collection. |
|Feb-19-05|| ||lostemperor: Rectification. On the predictioncontest on final Corusstandings I have overlooked the predictions of <suenteus po 147>. It was written in a text. He has 22 points what is a first place!|
This is how the points are given to make an easy and clear (overall) standing. Like in cu8sfan prediction game, the top 50% participants will get points starting from 1 point. The difference in points remains the same.
Here the prizewinners:
8 points: suenteus po 147, like a GM
6 points: iron maiden, matrix, moonlitknight, shams, 81069
5 points: lostemperor
4 points: acirce, fyrebird, kubis, Paul123, ranchogrande
3 points: boganel, child of my tears, AgentRgent, PinkPanther
2 points: assasinator, DaveMurray, Dionyseus, jafar, JimBean, zorro
1 point: radu stancu, MinorPieceActivity, moroisthebest, phoenix, sandyobrien, theSlid, Vishyfan.
|Mar-09-05|| ||acirce: Grischuk sums up the tournament "from inside", player by player and with some general comments: http://www.64.ru/2005/eng/2/english... |
|Dec-23-05|| ||iron maiden: New rules for determining this year's public prizes: |
"This 250 EURO daily prize will be awarded each day for the most elegant or most interesting game in the Grandmaster groups. For the first time the 'winning' game will be decided by the audience via internet. At the end of each round all chess lovers in the entire world can vote on four nominated games. The game that gets most votes will win the daily audience prize."
|Dec-23-05|| ||hitman84: <iron maiden>thats cool atleast now we get to have our say but still is'nt it a bit dubious unless the game is annotated we wont be able to find the best game.|
|Jan-21-06|| ||hidude: And Topolov Wins 2006|
|Apr-04-13|| ||Xenon Oxide: Back in the days Leko was considered ridiculously strong. We could see here he was very willing to play sharp and had a lot more confidence in his play. How the times have changed...|
|Apr-05-13|| ||positionalgenius: Yes. Not even the same player. After failures at San Luis 2005, Linares 2006 (where he lost the lead in the final round) and Dortmund 2006 (same story, lost the lead in final round to Kramnik), Leko stopped playing with confidence. He's never gotten back to that peak, 2002-2006.|
|Jun-27-14|| ||offramp: <Jan-14-05 ayayay: Anand-Bruzon 1-0
Morozevich-Van Wely 1/2-1/2
...And for whatever reason, ayayay never came back.
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