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Mar del Plata (1941) Mar del Plata (Argentina), 15 March - 2 April 1941 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Pts 1 Stahlberg * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 13 2 Najdorf ½ * ½ 1 1 1 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 0 1 ½ 1 12½ 3 Eliskases ½ ½ * ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 11½ 4 Engels ½ 0 ½ * ½ ½ 1 1 1 0 ½ 1 1 1 1 ½ 0 1 11 5 Frydman ½ 0 ½ ½ * 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 11 6 Czerniak ½ 0 0 ½ 1 * ½ 1 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 0 0 1 1 1 9½ 7 Feigin 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ * 0 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 ½ 0 1 9½ 8 Guimard 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 1 * 1 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 0 1 1 1 9½ 9 Bolbochan, Ju 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 1 0 0 * 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 9 10 Michel 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 * ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 8 11 Sulik ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ ½ * 1 1 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 8 12 Vinuesa ½ ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 1 0 * ½ 1 1 1 1 ½ 8 13 Bolbochan, Ja 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ * ½ 1 1 1 1 7½ 14 Raud 0 0 ½ 0 0 1 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ * 1 ½ ½ ½ 6½ 15 Iliesco ½ 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 ½ 1 0 0 0 * ½ 0 ½ 6 16 Luckis 0 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ * 1 ½ 5½ 17 Winz 0 ½ 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 ½ 1 0 * ½ 4½ 18 Graf-Stevenson 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ * 2½ (Crosstable source: "Chess Results 1941-1946", page 32, by Gino Di Felice (his source: "American Chess Bulletin 1941", page 28)) Tournament book: Luis Argentino Palau (ed.), El torneo de Mar del Plata 1941 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/969wqags...) This tournament event was compiled by User: Pawn and Two : Game Collection: Mar del Plata 1941  page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 153  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. C Guimard vs Eliskases 0-1 39 1941 Mar del Plata D57 Queen's Gambit Declined, Lasker Defense 2. Najdorf vs Stahlberg   ½-½ 30 1941 Mar del Plata D30 Queen's Gambit Declined 3. M Feigin vs M Czerniak ½-½ 53 1941 Mar del Plata E60 King's Indian Defense 4. Graf-Stevenson vs M Luckis   ½-½ 55 1941 Mar del Plata E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical 5. Bolbochan vs V Winz 1-0 45 1941 Mar del Plata C05 French, Tarrasch 6. P Frydman vs P Michel   ½-½ 56 1941 Mar del Plata D34 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch 7. L Engels vs J Vinuesa   1-0 56 1941 Mar del Plata B73 Sicilian, Dragon, Classical 8. J Traian Iliesco vs I Raud   0-1 48 1941 Mar del Plata A13 English 9. F Sulik vs J Bolbochan   1-0 46 1941 Mar del Plata B74 Sicilian, Dragon, Classical 10. Eliskases vs V Winz 1-0 41 1941 Mar del Plata E09 Catalan, Closed 11. I Raud vs Najdorf   0-1 34 1941 Mar del Plata A15 English 12. M Czerniak vs Graf-Stevenson 1-0 66 1941 Mar del Plata C25 Vienna 13. P Michel vs M Feigin   ½-½ 39 1941 Mar del Plata C17 French, Winawer, Advance 14. C Guimard vs L Engels   0-1 42 1941 Mar del Plata D52 Queen's Gambit Declined 15. J Vinuesa vs J Traian Iliesco   1-0 55 1941 Mar del Plata E85 King's Indian, Samisch, Orthodox Variation 16. Stahlberg vs P Frydman   ½-½ 40 1941 Mar del Plata D55 Queen's Gambit Declined 17. M Luckis vs F Sulik   ½-½ 55 1941 Mar del Plata D62 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox, Rubinstein Attack 18. J Bolbochan vs Bolbochan   ½-½ 31 1941 Mar del Plata D95 Grunfeld 19. L Engels vs Eliskases ½-½ 42 1941 Mar del Plata B15 Caro-Kann 20. Najdorf vs J Vinuesa ½-½ 68 1941 Mar del Plata D28 Queen's Gambit Accepted, Classical 21. F Sulik vs M Czerniak   0-1 30 1941 Mar del Plata C14 French, Classical 22. Graf-Stevenson vs P Michel   0-1 35 1941 Mar del Plata D02 Queen's Pawn Game 23. V Winz vs J Bolbochan   0-1 26 1941 Mar del Plata E33 Nimzo-Indian, Classical 24. M Feigin vs Stahlberg   0-1 49 1941 Mar del Plata D44 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav 25. Bolbochan vs M Luckis ½-½ 56 1941 Mar del Plata E32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical  page 1 of 7; games 1-25 of 153    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)   Apr-05-20    chesshistoryinterest: <hemy> has provided a link to the tournament book in his post on Biographer Bistro here: Biographer Bistro (kibitz #20531) The tournament ended on 2 April 1941. Apr-05-20    Tabanus: Seven games (by Feigin) have no date. Dates according to Palau's tournament book: Rd. 2: Michel vs Feigin 1/2 <March 16> Rd. 4: Raud vs Feigin 0-1 <March 18> Rd. 5: Feigin vs Vinuesa 1-0 <March 19> Rd. 6: Guimard vs Feigin 1-0 <March 20> Rd. 8: Traian vs Feigin 0-1 <March 22> Rd. 13: Sulik vs Feigin 0-1 <March 27> Rd. 17: Luckis vs Feigin 1/2 <March 31> Can be added unless other sources have them played on e. g. 1 or 2 april. Sep-16-20    Benzol: <Pawn and Two> has put together a number of tournament and match collections and although it's not indicated here as yet I believe this tournament page is based on one of them. Sep-16-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Tabanus> Thanks brah. I uploaded those Feigin games from 365Chess, which gave the rounds but not the dates. Thanks to you I was able to add the dates now! Sep-17-20    Tabanus: You're welcome. It remains to remove some duplicates, it should be 9 x 17 = 153 games if all were played. Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Tab> I don't understand how duplicates can get into a TI event? Does it have something to do with the relationship between gids and tids? Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Benzol, Tab> <Benzol> yes this event was indeed collected by <Pawn and Two>: Game Collection: Mar del Plata 1941 <Tab> yes the TI version has four duplicates, since it shows 157 games. You can see that <Pawn and Two's> original collection has the correct 153 games. Did this happen because the pgn Upload Utility allowed duplicate submissions through the gate? I'm not sure how that can happen either. Doesn't the Utility have explicit coding to prevent that from happening? Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Tab> I'm going to collect the duplicates now. Starting with two pairs from Juan Traian Iliesco P Frydman vs J Traian Iliesco, 1941 P Frydman vs J Traian Iliesco, 1941 ================== Stahlberg vs J Traian Iliesco, 1941 Stahlberg vs J Traian Iliesco, 1941 Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: M Luckis vs F Sulik, 1941 M Luckis vs F Sulik, 1941 ============== P Frydman vs P Michel, 1941 P Frydman vs P Michel, 1941 Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Tab> Ok I found and posted the 4 (four) duplicates. Once we get rid of them then we are back to the correct 153 games for the event. Now one of us should submit a correction slip. Do you want to do it or should I do it amirite. Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: <Benzol> Now I credited <Pawn and Two> as the creator on the Tournament page. Good catch man! Sep-17-20    Tabanus: Perhaps CG's ghost duplicates are now visible? Yikes. You submit please, they don't want any more slips from me. Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: Ghosts? Good heavens. Sep-17-20    Tabanus: https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/news... The COVID quarantine was lonely and isolating. Then Bigfoot stepped in, greeting bypassers with a Star Wars Rebel Alliance flag. Sep-17-20    jessicafischerqueen: Ok correction slips sent for all the duplicate games now. Sep-21-20    Tabanus: But no Annie to handle them. Perhaps next year? Mar-03-23    keypusher: OK, so why would Stahlberg play Bolbochan twice in this tournament? Stahlberg vs Bolbochan, 1941 Stahlberg vs J Bolbochan, 1941 Mar-03-23    Gregor Samsa Mendel: <keypusher> Julio and Jacobo Bolbochan were brothers and GMs who both participated in this tournament. Mar-03-23    stone free or die: They're two brothers it seems. Check the xtab above. (The <CG> short names are a bit confusing in your links, agreed) Mar-03-23    keypusher: GSM, stone free -- cool, I had no idea! NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. 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