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🏆 Hamburg (1885)

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The 4th Deutscher Schachkongress took place in Hamburg in 1885. It included the 4th Meisterturnier (master's tournament) organized by the Deutscher Schachbund (DSB); the first three were ... [more]

Player: Henry Edward Bird

 page 1 of 1; 16 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Blackburne vs Bird 1-0741885HamburgA81 Dutch
2. J Mason vs Bird 1-0521885HamburgA80 Dutch
3. Von Gottschall vs Bird 1-0601885HamburgA00 Uncommon Opening
4. Mackenzie vs Bird 1-0301885HamburgC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
5. Bird vs E Schallopp ½-½621885HamburgC58 Two Knights
6. Bird vs Taubenhaus 1-0471885HamburgA02 Bird's Opening
7. Bird vs F Riemann 1-0551885HamburgA03 Bird's Opening
8. Bird vs Tarrasch 0-1401885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
9. Bird vs Englisch 0-1551885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
10. Bird vs Max Weiss 0-1341885HamburgA03 Bird's Opening
11. W Paulsen vs Bird 0-1521885HamburgC22 Center Game
12. A Schottlaender vs Bird 0-1151885HamburgC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
13. J N Berger vs Bird ½-½731885HamburgB25 Sicilian, Closed
14. Bird vs Gunsberg 0-1491885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
15. J Noa vs Bird 0-1211885HamburgB32 Sicilian
16. Bird vs J Minckwitz 1-0441885HamburgA03 Bird's Opening
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jan-12-16  zanzibar: RE: missing Blackburne // Mason game:

<Even tournament books can be unreliable sources. The game that Blackburne lost to James Mason at Hamburg in 1885 is not in the book of the 4th German Federation Congress; the editors included a Blackburne win from another tournament by mistake. The correct game is still being sought.>

http://www.chessmail.com/research/b...

Apr-24-16  zanzibar: From the intro:

<Gunsberg proved himself here and later that he was one of the best chess players in the world in the 19th century>

Seems a bit too much of a claim. See here:

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/...

No Gunsberg.

Maybe it the claim were restricted a little to less than the entire 18th century:

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/...

Apr-24-16  zanzibar: Concerning the supposedly misattributed Mason--Blackburne game referred to in the 1st comment...

I'm curious, why didn't Harding say what tournament the game given in the Hamburg TB really belonged to?

Does anybody know?

And, given that the game presumably reflects a Mason--Blackburne encounter, if we don't know its proper attribution, what do we do with it?

Apr-25-16  zanzibar: Strike the above question, <Tab> answered it here:

Blackburne vs J Mason, 1885 (kibitz #7)

The game originally published in the <Hamburg (1885)> has the colors right, but the wrong result, since it belonged to the <Hereford (1885)> tournament. According to Harding, the only other complete source is <C-M v7 p40-41>. The Field also published the finish.

Still, I think Harding might include the above on the webpage, in addition to his Blackburne book.

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