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🏆 Baden-Baden (1925) Chess Event Description
For a number of years following the First World War Germany had seen no great international tournaments. ... [more]

Player: Fred Dewhirst Yates

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Tarrasch vs Yates 1-0261925Baden-BadenC50 Giuoco Piano
2. Yates vs Nimzowitsch  ½-½531925Baden-BadenB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
3. Alekhine vs Yates 1-0501925Baden-BadenD63 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense
4. Yates vs J W te Kolste 1-0481925Baden-BadenC66 Ruy Lopez
5. Reti vs Yates  ½-½531925Baden-BadenA13 English
6. Yates vs K Treybal  1-0491925Baden-BadenC79 Ruy Lopez, Steinitz Defense Deferred
7. G A Thomas vs Yates 1-0751925Baden-BadenD65 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox, Rubinstein Attack, Main line
8. Yates vs Saemisch  0-1651925Baden-BadenC64 Ruy Lopez, Classical
9. Spielmann vs Yates  1-0451925Baden-BadenC28 Vienna Game
10. Yates vs I Rabinovich ½-½631925Baden-BadenC64 Ruy Lopez, Classical
11. J Mieses vs Yates  0-1561925Baden-BadenC71 Ruy Lopez
12. Yates vs Carls 1-0261925Baden-BadenB16 Caro-Kann, Bronstein-Larsen Variation
13. S Rosselli del Turco vs Yates  1-0371925Baden-BadenC28 Vienna Game
14. Yates vs Marshall  ½-½361925Baden-BadenC90 Ruy Lopez, Closed
15. Bogoljubov vs Yates 0-1551925Baden-BadenE91 King's Indian
16. Yates vs Rubinstein 0-1511925Baden-BadenC91 Ruy Lopez, Closed
17. Tartakower vs Yates  1-0481925Baden-BadenD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
18. Yates vs Gruenfeld  1-0311925Baden-BadenC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
19. Carlos Torre vs Yates 1-0321925Baden-BadenA48 King's Indian
20. Yates vs Colle 0-1511925Baden-BadenB02 Alekhine's Defense
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Dec-05-12  Conrad93: Alekhine dominated this tournament. The best players in the world didn't even manage to scratch him. Impressive.
Dec-06-12  Shams: What was a "large appearance fee" in 1925?
Dec-06-12  Conrad93: Probably a few hundred dollars.


5,075.03-10,150 dollars.

Jan-29-13  Marmot PFL: <What was a "large appearance fee" in 1925?>

Any fee payable in anything other than German paper marks (about 4.5 trillion to $1 US).

Jan-29-13  Marmot PFL: Drink your beer slowly, it cost 5 billion marks.
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  perfidious: Who cares about the beer? The stein is worth much more!
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  whiteshark: Tarrasch mentioned in the tournament book that both <demanded to high extra-honoraria for their participation>, but he didn't specify it.

For organising the tournament Tarrasch had a budget of 10,000 Mark whereof 4,000 Mark was for price-money (1,500 - 1000 - 700 - 500 - 300). Non prize winners got 20 Mark for a win and 10 Mark for a draw.

Jan-29-13  Shams: <Marmot> <about 4.5 trillion to $1 US>

Wow, even several years before the crash they were in that bad of shape?

Jan-29-13  waustad: If their teams in the Bundesliga and Frauenbundesliga are any indication, chess is still doing well in Baden Baden. BTW, the name wasn't officially doubled until 1931 to differentiate it from Baden bei Wien, usw.
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  TheFocus: Badeb Baden and Baden bei Wien are in different countries.
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  perfidious: <Shams> By the time Hitler's putsch came off in November 1923, the mark was already in bad shape.
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  keypusher: Hyperinflation was over long before this tournament.

Jan-29-13  IndigoViolet: Yes, that's true. If you see group photos of the event, there's not a wheelbarrow in sight.
Mar-27-13  notyetagm: Alekhine vs Colle, 1925

45 ... ?

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White has just captured a Black rook on g8 with 45 ♖g3x♖g8. Should Black make the obvious recapture on g8 or does he have a better move?

Colle playing Black simply recaptured the White g8-rook and lost.

45 ... ♔h7x♖g8?

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Instead he could have forced White to take a perp by playing the *much* stronger <ZWISCHENZUG> 45 ... ♕d7xa4!, threatening mate on the <WEAK BACK RANK> while simultaneously creating <CONNECTED PASSERS> on the queenside.

45 ... ♕d7xa4!=

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  Benzol: "Capablanca won the London Tournament in 1922 because he was the World Champion; Lasker won in New York in 1924 as if he were the World Champion; but Alekhine won the Baden-Baden Tournament like a real World Champion". - Savielly Tartakower
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  keypusher: <Benzol: "Capablanca won the London Tournament in 1922 because he was the World Champion; Lasker won in New York in 1924 as if he were the World Champion; but Alekhine won the Baden-Baden Tournament like a real World Champion". - Savielly Tartakower>

By which he meant <in the absence of the world's strongest players?> :-)

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  Benzol: It could be interesting to speculate what the final placings would've been if Lasker and/or Capablanca had played in this tournament.


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  FSR: <Benzol: It could be interesting to speculate what the final placings would've been if Lasker and/or Capablanca had played in this tournament.>

1. Alekhine
2. Lasker
3-4. Rubinstein, Capablanca

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  perfidious: To get there with Lasker and Capablanca present, Alekhine would have had to pound the lesser masters without mercy, as he actually did; for he could then do little with either the reigning champion or his predecessor.
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  FSR: My prediction is predicated on the assumption that, much as <perfidious> suggests, Alekhine would have beaten up on the lesser lights while drawing against the superstars. (He didn't actually <win> against Capablanca until 1927, and against Lasker until 1934 - Alekhine's only win against the great man). If so, the tournament could have been something like Moscow (1925) with Alekhine playing Bogo's part. But who knows, maybe Lasker could have pulled off another New York (1924) and won the thing.
Aug-03-16  King.Arthur.Brazil: A photo of this set of fabolous great masters of BADEN-BADEN in the following e-address:
Aug-28-16  King.Arthur.Brazil: It is very sad to see the big ex-champion Tarrasch lose games where he was better, making unbelievable moves that made him lost... It was preferable to retire of doing this hole... Maybe, he needed money...
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  plang: ...and maybe he loved chess

What was he "ex-champion" of?

Aug-29-16  Howard: If I remember correctly, after World War I, Tarrasch never again placed in the top-three of any tournament he played in---and he was in quite a few after the war.
Sep-02-16  King.Arthur.Brazil: Your are right! I must write "ex-vice-Champion", since it was defeated by Lasker in 1908. But we will never know why Tarrasch didn't was kind for match Lasker before. From 1904 to 1908, he lose several oportunities, where maybe, he was best prepared. The score 8x3 for Lasker (1908) and both score of Lasker 8x1 Marshall and Tarrasch 8x0 Marshall (1904) explains my opinion. I guess the "vice-champion" in Chess is a honor title too. Remember that are several extra-ordinary players that are in this list: (never were the world Champion): Tarrasch, Schlecter, Reti, Smyslov (was Champion only one year!, 1954), Bronstein, Tahl, Kortchnoi, etc.
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