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From January 16 to February 4, 1930, sixteen chess masters from Europe and the Americas, including the World Champion, gathered in San Remo, Italy ... [more]
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Player: Efim Bogoljubov
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| Nov-02-13 | | Naniwazu: <offramp> £10000 is today €11,809.79. |
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| Mar-31-14 | | notyetagm: San Remo (1930)/Alexander Alekhine <+13 =2 -0 (14/15)>
White: +8 =0 -0 (8/8)
Black: +5 =2 -0 (6/7)
WOW!! |
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Mar-31-14
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: One thing Alekhine didn't win was the Brilliancy Prize: Bogoljubov vs M Monticelli, 1930 |
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Nov-15-14
 | | thegoodanarchist: This tournament standings list reads like a who's who of pre-WWII chess greats. Except one name is particularly notable for its absence. Where was Senor Capa, I wonder? |
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Nov-15-14
| | Gregor Samsa Mendel: <tga>--I am no chess historian, but I believe that while he was world champion, Alekhine refused to appear in any tournament to which Capablanca had been invited, forcing organizers to choose between them. Perhaps one of the site historians more familiar with the subject will comment further. |
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Nov-16-14
| | thegoodanarchist: <GSM> I found a note in Capa's bio that says he took time off from chess for a couple of years, starting around 1930. |
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Nov-16-14
| | thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Can anyone translate £10,000 into €?> Yes, anyone can, if they know how to google. |
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Nov-17-14
 | | perfidious: <GSM> Capablanca did not play any serious chess from late 1931 until the Hastings event, which began at Christmas 1934. |
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| Jan-23-15 | | Poulsen: According to Chessmetrics this was Alekhines best performance - however Bled 1931 played roughly 1½ years later - came very close. It should perhaps be noted, that at San Remo Alekhine was clearly the 'young' man at the top. He was 37 years old, the rest of the pack was +40 - Maroczy almost 60. All younger than Alekhine finished at the bottom. At Bled 1931 this was changed. |
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Jan-23-15
| | perfidious: Two terrific performances from Alekhine by any standard, clearly outshining his clean score at the 1930 Olympiad, where he mostly sat against stronger sides. |
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Jan-24-15
 | | offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Can anyone translate £10,000 into €?>
Yes, anyone can, if they know how to google.> What is the answer, then? The following answer does not seem right: <Naniwazu: <offramp> £10000 is today €11,809.79.> |
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Jan-24-15
| | offramp: <offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Can anyone translate £10,000 into €?> Yes, anyone can, if they know how to google.>
What is the answer, then? The following answer does not seem right: <Naniwazu: <offramp> £10000 is today €11,809.79.>> To answer my own question, the MeasuringWorth site eventually gives a figure of $6550. |
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| Jan-25-15 | | Poulsen: Hmm, in 1930 10.000 italian lira would have been roughly 523 $ - and the commodity value of 523 $ in 1930 equals roughly af commodity value of 7.300 $ as of 2013. So Alekhines prize money in San Remo would have been a major income for him at that year. |
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Mar-13-16
 | | TheFocus: A brilliancy prize, donated by I.S. Turnover of Washington, D.C., was divided between Monticelli and Ahues for the games both won from Bogoljubow - <American Chess Bulletin>, February 1930, pg. 23. |
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| Sep-13-17 | | Nosnibor: Kmoch authored a very good book "Rubinstein`s Chess Masterpieces". Naturally his win in this tournament is not included in the collection. |
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| Sep-13-17 | | JimNorCal: That's a terrific book, IMO. Well, the games in the book are superb so it's not a surprise that some excellent ones were left out to keep space within boundaries agreed with the publisher |
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Sep-13-17
 | | keypusher: < offramp: <offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Can anyone translate £10,000 into €?> Yes, anyone can, if they know how to google.> What is the answer, then? The following answer does not seem right:
<Naniwazu: <offramp> £10000 is today €11,809.79.>> To answer my own question, the MeasuringWorth site eventually gives a figure of $6550.> http://www.paper-dragon.com/1939/ex...
The "Dirty 30s" site says a dollar was worth 19 lire in 1930 (but it took five greenbacks to buy one pound sterling). A 1930 dollar is worth $14.66 today.
Using these numbers, 10,000 lire equate to about 7,715 dollars (2017 edition). Dollar/Euro exchange rate is 0.84, so that's 6,481 euro. That is pretty much the answer you got already, so I'm wasting everyone's time, except "Dirty 30s" seems like kind of a fun website, so there's that. Also, it has incomes for various (US) jobs in the 1930s, which is another way to think about of the prize money. 10,000 lire equals about $525 (1930). Comparing, a textile worker then made $433 annually, registered nurse $936, lawyer $4,218 (my heart is breaking!), hired gun $5,200, US Congressman $8,663. An "Italian villa" cost $17,000, so Alekhine definitely wasn't getting one of those with his prize. http://www.paper-dragon.com/1939/pr... |
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Sep-14-17
| | offramp: That site also says that a stick of TNT was just $5 in 1930. So Alekhine could have bought 600 sticks of dynamite and blown himself, his opponents, the casino and most of the whole population of San Remo into smithereens. |
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| Sep-14-17 | | john barleycorn: <offramp:...
So Alekhine could have bought 600 sticks of dynamite ...> That would have meant serious cut of his drinking budget. Before blowing up San Remo he would rather blow his mind. |
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| Sep-14-17 | | WorstPlayerEver: 10,000 lire=6 dollar |
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| Sep-14-17 | | john barleycorn: <WorstPlayerEver: 10,000 lire=6 dollar> Yes, whenvever I wanted to be a millionaire I went to Italy. |
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Sep-16-17
| | offramp: <WorstPlayerEver: 10,000 lire=6 dollar.> "Here's your six bucks, pal. And remember, this casino ain't a library, so buy a whisky with your winnings and tip the croupier with the change." |
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Sep-16-17
| | perfidious: 'Tip the croupier'? You must be mad! |
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Feb-08-18
| | offramp: Pigeon shooting at San Remo in 1937:
https://youtu.be/M2g4XlP_Gkw |
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| Feb-08-18 | | zanzibar: I prefer skeet shooting, more humane and pretty much just as challenging. |
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