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🏆 Nuremberg (1883)

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The 3rd Deutscher Schachkongress took place in Nuremberg in 1883. It included the 3rd Meisterturnier (masters' tournament) organized by the Deutscher Schachbund (DSB); the first two were ... [more]

Player: Curt von Bardeleben

 page 1 of 1; 18 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Von Bardeleben vs Winawer 0-1581883NurembergD04 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Von Bardeleben vs M Lange 1-0271883NurembergD02 Queen's Pawn Game
3. A Schottlaender vs Von Bardeleben ½-½241883NurembergC77 Ruy Lopez
4. Von Bardeleben vs Paulsen ½-½571883NurembergB32 Sicilian
5. C Leffmann vs Von Bardeleben 0-1661883NurembergB46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
6. Blackburne vs Von Bardeleben ½-½341883NurembergC53 Giuoco Piano
7. Von Bardeleben vs E Schallopp 0-1421883NurembergC77 Ruy Lopez
8. Gunsberg vs Von Bardeleben 0-1551883NurembergC53 Giuoco Piano
9. W Paulsen vs Von Bardeleben 0-1121883NurembergC22 Center Game
10. Von Bardeleben vs Bird 0-1541883NurembergA81 Dutch
11. Von Bardeleben vs J N Berger 1-0411883NurembergD05 Queen's Pawn Game
12. Von Bardeleben vs J Schwarz  1-0701883NurembergD05 Queen's Pawn Game
13. V Hruby vs Von Bardeleben  1-0561883NurembergA13 English
14. Von Bardeleben vs F Riemann  ½-½571883NurembergE72 King's Indian
15. M Bier vs Von Bardeleben  0-1531883NurembergC77 Ruy Lopez
16. J Mason vs Von Bardeleben  ½-½171883NurembergC29 Vienna Gambit
17. Von Bardeleben vs Max Weiss ½-½351883NurembergD05 Queen's Pawn Game
18. A Fritz vs Von Bardeleben 0-1391883NurembergC80 Ruy Lopez, Open
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Dec-24-13  thomastonk: See also http://www.chessarch.com/archive/00....
Dec-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <thoomastonk> That is exactly how I picture Bird, gently contemplating yet another eccentricity.
Jan-10-14  thomastonk: I got this week a copy of the tournament book, and this confirmed my sneaking suspicion: the introduction needs improvement and correction.

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Joost van Winsen mentions in his excellent article (link see above) that the 'tooth story' is not mentioned in German sources and the tournament book, and that no particulars have been found of Winawer's time of arrival. But the tournament book (p 27) gives a little bit of information and confirms everything else of Hoffer's story: "Die Vorwoche des Kongresses führte eine stattliche Anzahl von Schachspielern und Schachfreunden in Nürnberg zusammen. Ohne die Absicht, sich daselbst längere Zeit aufhalten zu wollen, berühte S.Winawer Nürnberg auf der Reise von London nach Wien, wohin er sich zunächst begeben wollte, und wurde selbstverständlich von den Nürnbergers nicht wieder losgelassen; -- dafür nahm er auch später den ersten Preis mit sich."

Rough translation: "In the week before the congress, a considerable number of chess players and chess lovers were present in Nuremberg. On a journey from London to Vienna Winawer arrived in Nuremberg without the intent to stay there for a longer time, and naturally the people from Nuremberg don't let him go; -- in exchange he took afterwards the first prize with him."

After Winawer the chess players from England and Vienna are mentioned, and then both Paulsens.

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: In the previous DSB Congress' intro (Berlin (1881)) on <CG> is this statement:

<... a formula from this event would serve as a template for all future chess congresses in Germany before the Great War.>

Leipzig (1879)

I took issue with the comment over there:

Berlin (1881) (kibitz #32)

This tournament, <Nuremberg (1883)>, actually returned to the older German formula of 2 games/day that had been abandoned in <Berlin (1881)> - the latter having adopted the more "standard" rate of 1 game/day used by most international tournaments.

So, being interested in the evolution of the "formula" of international play - I still wonder about the statement in the previous tournaments' intro.

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: From the intro <"not any more the sole strongest event in which to participate">.

Where's OCF when you need him?!

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: The following comments really could be made about any tournament:

<Commenting upon the Nuremberg tournament, the Field remarks that "Chess-players, as a rule, consider themselves at least pawn and move stronger than they really are; hence competitors entering a tournament hope to gain a prize by reasoning that they will be able to draw with the recognised favourites and beat those whom they consider—estimating their strength at the above standard—inferior to themselves." The outside world might conclude from this that Chess-players are very conceited persona, but this does not follow. Every player naturally judges of himself at his best, and takes little account of games lost by careless blunders. These he willingly forgets as fast as possible. His error consists in believing himself capable of avoiding mistakes when there is every inducement for him to play correctly. To play well is the gift of fortune; but to make mistakes comes by nature.>

<BCM v03 (Aug-Sep 1883) p340/351>

Apr-23-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <zed> Vastly amusing; I suppose by the above named criterion, in my best days I should have at been least GM strength, though not quite good enough to emulate Steinitz' supposed claim near the end of his life that he could offer God odds of pawn and move.
Jun-27-17  zanzibar: And talk about grinds, the Germans decided to play under this schedule:

9am-1pm, 2pm-6pm, 7:30pm-12am

That's 8 + 4½ = 12½ hrs/day.

(H.E. Bird - Renette p312)

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