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🏆 3rd DSB Congress, Nuremberg (1883)

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Player: Isidor Gunsberg

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Gunsberg vs M Lange 0-19718833rd DSB Congress, NurembergD05 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Gunsberg vs Winawer 1-05518833rd DSB Congress, NurembergD02 Queen's Pawn Game
3. Mason vs Gunsberg 1-04018833rd DSB Congress, NurembergA40 Queen's Pawn Game
4. C Leffmann vs Gunsberg 0-13918833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC83 Ruy Lopez, Open
5. J Schwarz vs Gunsberg ½-½3918833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC49 Four Knights
6. Gunsberg vs Bird ½-½5018833rd DSB Congress, NurembergB25 Sicilian, Closed
7. W Paulsen vs Gunsberg 0-15118833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC22 Center Game
8. Gunsberg vs von Bardeleben 0-15518833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC53 Giuoco Piano
9. Gunsberg vs E Schallopp 0-15218833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC48 Four Knights
10. A Fritz vs Gunsberg 0-15018833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC67 Ruy Lopez
11. M Bier vs Gunsberg 1-06518833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC49 Four Knights
12. Gunsberg vs F Riemann  0-13718833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC25 Vienna
13. V Hruby vs Gunsberg 1-03818833rd DSB Congress, NurembergD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
14. Paulsen vs Gunsberg 1-06118833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC02 French, Advance
15. Gunsberg vs J Berger 0-16318833rd DSB Congress, NurembergD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
16. Gunsberg vs M Weiss 0-13018833rd DSB Congress, NurembergB12 Caro-Kann Defense
17. Gunsberg vs A Schottlaender 0-12318833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC13 French
18. Blackburne vs Gunsberg 1-04518833rd DSB Congress, NurembergC45 Scotch Game
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Dec-24-13  thomastonk: See also http://www.chessarch.com/archive/00....
Dec-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <thoomastonk> That is exactly how I picture Bird, gently contemplating yet another eccentricity.
Jan-10-14  thomastonk: I got this week a copy of the tournament book, and this confirmed my sneaking suspicion: the introduction needs improvement and correction.

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Joost van Winsen mentions in his excellent article (link see above) that the 'tooth story' is not mentioned in German sources and the tournament book, and that no particulars have been found of Winawer's time of arrival. But the tournament book (p 27) gives a little bit of information and confirms everything else of Hoffer's story: "Die Vorwoche des Kongresses führte eine stattliche Anzahl von Schachspielern und Schachfreunden in Nürnberg zusammen. Ohne die Absicht, sich daselbst längere Zeit aufhalten zu wollen, berühte S.Winawer Nürnberg auf der Reise von London nach Wien, wohin er sich zunächst begeben wollte, und wurde selbstverständlich von den Nürnbergers nicht wieder losgelassen; -- dafür nahm er auch später den ersten Preis mit sich."

Rough translation: "In the week before the congress, a considerable number of chess players and chess lovers were present in Nuremberg. On a journey from London to Vienna Winawer arrived in Nuremberg without the intent to stay there for a longer time, and naturally the people from Nuremberg don't let him go; -- in exchange he took afterwards the first prize with him."

After Winawer the chess players from England and Vienna are mentioned, and then both Paulsens.

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: In the previous DSB Congress' intro (Berlin (1881)) on <CG> is this statement:

<... a formula from this event would serve as a template for all future chess congresses in Germany before the Great War.>

Leipzig (1879)

I took issue with the comment over there:

Berlin (1881) (kibitz #32)

This tournament, <Nuremberg (1883)>, actually returned to the older German formula of 2 games/day that had been abandoned in <Berlin (1881)> - the latter having adopted the more "standard" rate of 1 game/day used by most international tournaments.

So, being interested in the evolution of the "formula" of international play - I still wonder about the statement in the previous tournaments' intro.

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: From the intro <"not any more the sole strongest event in which to participate">.

Where's OCF when you need him?!

Apr-23-16  zanzibar: The following comments really could be made about any tournament:

<Commenting upon the Nuremberg tournament, the Field remarks that "Chess-players, as a rule, consider themselves at least pawn and move stronger than they really are; hence competitors entering a tournament hope to gain a prize by reasoning that they will be able to draw with the recognised favourites and beat those whom they consider—estimating their strength at the above standard—inferior to themselves." The outside world might conclude from this that Chess-players are very conceited persona, but this does not follow. Every player naturally judges of himself at his best, and takes little account of games lost by careless blunders. These he willingly forgets as fast as possible. His error consists in believing himself capable of avoiding mistakes when there is every inducement for him to play correctly. To play well is the gift of fortune; but to make mistakes comes by nature.>

<BCM v03 (Aug-Sep 1883) p340/351>

Apr-23-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <zed> Vastly amusing; I suppose by the above named criterion, in my best days I should have at been least GM strength, though not quite good enough to emulate Steinitz' supposed claim near the end of his life that he could offer God odds of pawn and move.
Jun-27-17  zanzibar: And talk about grinds, the Germans decided to play under this schedule:

9am-1pm, 2pm-6pm, 7:30pm-12am

That's 8 + 4½ = 12½ hrs/day.

(H.E. Bird - Renette p312)

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