| London (Vizayanagaram) (1883) |
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This was the minor event held at the same time as London (1883). It was funded by a £200 donation by the Maharajah of Vizayanagaram (perhaps more accurately spelled Vizianagram), which was split into five prizes of £60, £50, £40, £30, £20. Four additional prizes, totalling £40, were added later: £15 for 6th place, £10 for 7th, £8 for 8th, £7 for 9th. The qualifications for players to be admitted were reported in the British Chess Magazine, March 1883, p. 103: This tournament shall be open to such players of all nations as shall not, in the opinion of the Managing Committee, be clearly marked out by their public performance as eligible only for the major tournament. The committee in deciding such eligibility will be guide principally by the following considerations: 1. Whether a player in any international tournament since 1869 has made a score equal to half the score of the winner. 2. Whether a player has in public match play achieved distinction equivalent to the preceding. The experimental rule in the International tournament requiring that draws be replayed was not in force for this minor tournament, so that draws counted the usual 1/2 for each player. The time control was 20 moves in one hour, and hours of play were scheduled from 7:00 PM until midnight so as not to conflict with the morning sessions of the International tournament. However, players were given the option of playing in the morning as well, and many took advantage of this to finish their schedule sooner. Hence, any round-by-round summary would be misleading, even if such were available. Most of the players came from various regions of England, but one of the few foreigners carried off the honors. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
1 Curt von Bardeleben X 1 1 = 1 = = 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 21.5
2 Bernard William Fisher 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 20.5
3 George Alcock MacDonnell 0 0 X 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19.5
4 Isidor Gunsberg = 1 0 X 1 = 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 19.0
5 George Hatfeild Gossip 0 0 1 0 X 1 0 = 1 1 = = 0 1 1 = = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17.5
6 Charles Edward Ranken = 1 1 = 0 X = 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1 1 17.5
7 Charles James Lambert = 0 0 0 1 = X 0 0 1 1 1 0 = 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16.5
8 Thomas Henry Piper 0 1 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 0 1 1 1 = = = 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16.0
9 Henry Lee 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 X 0 = 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15.5
10 William Hugh A. Mundell 0 = 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 = 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 15.0
11 Walter Montague Gattie 1 0 0 1 = 1 0 0 = 0 x 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 1 14.5
12 Andrew Hunter 0 0 0 0 = 0 0 0 1 0 1 X 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 14.5
13 John Lord = 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 X 0 1 = 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14.5
14 William Alexander Lindsay 0 0 0 0 0 0 = = 0 1 1 1 1 X 0 = = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 12.0
15 James Innes Minchin 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 0 1 X 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 12.0
16 William Elliott Vyse = 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 0 0 = = 0 X 0 = = 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 11.5
17 Francis Sidney Ensor 0 0 0 0 = 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 1 X 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11.0
18 Levi Benima 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 = 0 X 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 10.5
19 Cyril Bexley Vansittart 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 = 0 0 = 1 1 X 0 1 0 = 1 = 1 10.5
20 Leon Febvret 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 X = 1 1 1 1 0 8.0
21 William Leighton Newham 0 0 0 1 0 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = X 0 1 1 1 1 7.0
22 James Samuel West 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 X 1 0 1 1 7.0
23 Richard Rabson 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 = 0 1 = 0 0 0 X 1 1 1 6.0
24 Arthur Giles Puller 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 X 1 1 4.0
25 Richard Pilkington 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 0 0 0 0 X 1 1.5
26 F H Dudley 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 X 1.0
The game between Gunsberg and Lee was given as a loss for both players.A report from the British Chess Magazine, June 1883, pp. 208-209: "In the Vizayanagram Tournament the conditions of play imposed a much heavier strain upon those of the competitors (and these were the majority) who elected to do battle in the morning as well as the evening; in fact we may say that it was something like giving odds, and when we remember that players such as Bardeleben, Gossip, Gunsberg, Gattie, Lee, and Piper played only in the evening, it is obvious that the advantage they thus obtained must have contributed not a few additions to their score." "The shorter time limit of 20 moves an hour in this tourney naturally pressed very severly upon the slower and more nervous competitors. Messrs. Lindsay, Minchin, and Ranken seem especially to have felt this, for none of them by any means did himself justice, and the latter, after winning or drawing with all the topmost players, threw away won games to Messrs. Gossip and Lord, and games that were easily drawn to Messrs. Gattie and Lee, simply for want of sufficient time to examine his moves in very difficult positions." "Mr. Minchin was of course heavily handicapped also by his official duties as Hon. Secretary, and by the constant anxiety and interruption which such a post necessarily entails." "Other players from whom more might naturally have been expected were Messrs. Ensor and MacDonnell, both, however, were very much out of form for want of practice, and consequently lost game after game to men whom they could at other times have probably beaten." "Messrs. Bardeleben, Fischer, Gunsberg, Gossip, Lee, and Piper played very steadily, and on the whole very well. They all thoroughly deserve the high positions they have attained, but the greatest credit we think is due to Mr. Fisher, as he alone of them fought both morning and evening. He has upheld the credit of the C.C.A. in the Minor Tourney like Mr. Skipworth in the other, and for the first week he had not lost or drawn a single game." "Another C.C.A. man who has greatly improved is Mr. Lambert, as may be seen by the very respectable total shown by his score. M. Benima is a Dutchman hailing from Groningen, who we think would have stood higher but for his nervousness, for some of his games he played exceedingly well. M. Febvret, though French, has long been resident in London; his style is rapid and impetuous, but somewhat wants ballast." "Herr von Bardeleben is a quiet-mannered, unassuming young man who has won prizes at the Leipsic Augusten Club; he has shown a great talent for the game and rarely makes any mistakes." "Mr. Vansittart is an English player living at Rome, and a very promising young player. Messrs. Lee and Gattie are strong and very improving amateurs trained in the University Club at Oxford; Mr. Gunsberg is well known as the Mentor of Mephisto, though one would not suppose that gentleman required an adviser, and his genius for the game makes him a most formidable antagonist; Mr. Piper is a rising young player of the City of London Club." "Of the rest of the competitors it is hardly necessary to speak." Original collection: Game Collection: London 1883 Vizayanagaram Tournament, by User: Phony Benoni.
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| Aug-01-18 | | TheFocus: <zanzibar> <The TB is normally authoritative, but like I said, without Minchin commenting on what happened (like he should have)> Agreed. It does seem very neglectful. |
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| Aug-01-18 | | zanzibar: Helpful info about coverage... |
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| Aug-01-18 | | TheFocus: The report of the <Knowledge>, June 15, 1883, says that both players were forfeited. http://www.chessarch.com/excavation... |
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| Aug-02-18 | | morfishine: <offramp> On your question: <Chessical>, what does "ride is adeled" mean? I think the correct spelling is "rider is added" (requiring deposits from all the players) But I may be wrong |
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Aug-02-18
 | | offramp: <Morfishine> That make total sense! Another mystery solved! |
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Aug-02-18
 | | Chessical: <Offramp>: "The same ride is adeled requiring £5 deposit..." should have read "The same rule is added requiring £5 deposit... " |
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| Aug-02-18 | | morfishine: <Chessical> Thank you for clearing that up! :) <offramp> Doesn't seem I'm correct, though I liked using the legal term 'rider', which also includes the additional fee which monetizes the amyrtzn abv 180VZGYRMI Hope this helps! |
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| Aug-02-18 | | zanzibar: Damn, looks like I'm too late to ask what does <"... the same ride is added ..."> mean? |
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Sep-22-18
 | | MissScarlett: Would someone with access to the tournament book, check how the names of the players are presented? I'm particularly interested in <F Hunter>
and <Richard Roe Rabson>, as given above. A contemporary newspaper report has <A Hunter>, which, if correct, may be this A Hunter, who I've seen recorded as <Andrew Hunter>. Regarding Rabson, I found a <Richard Roe Rabson>, but flourishing in Eastbourne in 1900, not dead since 1896. |
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| Sep-22-18 | | TheFocus: <MissScarlett> In <London 1883>, which includes games from the <Vizayanagaram>, on pg. xxi, we are given the list of entrants as: R. Rabson, Esq., of Woolrich
A. Hunter, Esq., of London
There is a small selection of games from this event, including these: I. Gunsberg - F. Hunter, pg. 331
F. Hunter - Ranken, pg. 345.
R. Rabson - F. Lee, pg. 357
Players names are listed in the crosstable without first names or initials on pg. xxix. So even the book has both A. and F. as first initial for Hunter. |
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Sep-23-18
| | MissScarlett: <R. Rabson, Esq., of Woolrich> Woolwich, I assume. If even the tournament book is spotted with errors or typos, we're really in trouble. As to <Richard Roe Rabson>, I sense the inky hands of <Tabanus>. |
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| Sep-23-18 | | TheFocus: <MissScarlett> <Woolwich, I assume.> You are correct. |
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Sep-23-18
| | MissScarlett: <F H Dudley>
And what of him? I feel sorry for the poor mucker - 59 ganes recovered for this event yet not one from him. |
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Jan-17-19
| | MissScarlett: <Tabanus> has pointed out a piece by <Tim Harding> about this event that addresses a couple of the matters discussed above: http://www.chessmail.com/research/v... On what basis Harding identifies Hunter as <Andrew Hunter> isn't made clear, but I think the correction to <A Hunter>, at least, is clearly justified. I'll submit the outstanding 3 games. |
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Jan-19-19
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A grateful <source for Vizayanagaram games> (who not published in the tournament book) are the <issues of 'Nuova Rivista degli Scacchi'> 1883-1887... https://books.google.com/books?q=ed... ... |
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Jan-19-19
| | MissScarlett: I discover that <cg.com> has three games that Harding is, or was, unaware of: Game Collection: London 1883 Vizayanagaram Tournament Piper-Ranken; Ranken-Lord; Ranken-Ensor. Going by the gameids, all three were uploaded together, at a later date to the bulk of the collection. Ranken being the common denominator might be a clue as to their origin. Anyone have an inkling? |
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| Jan-19-19 | | zanzibar: <<Missy> Anyone have an inkling?> I have an inkling that <CG> should keep a public record of game submissions, with updates on incorporation/publication. |
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Jan-21-19
| | Jean Defuse: ...
C E Ranken vs F S Ensor, 1883 - BCM Dec 1883, p. 406 C E Ranken vs J Lord, 1883 - BCM Jan 1884, p. 15 T H Piper vs C E Ranken, 1883 - BCM Jan 1884, p. 16 ... |
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Jan-21-19
| | MissScarlett: Thanks. I thought the BCM was the likely source, as Ranken was one of its co-founders, but I'm surprised such a source hadn't already been mined by the commercial databases. or that Harding was unaware of these games. Do you have hard copy or online access to these volumes? |
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Jan-21-19
| | Jean Defuse: ...
Here are the two volumes:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/b2o... The game (from Harding's collection) 'Lord v Vansittart' is also missing... ... |
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Jan-21-19
| | MissScarlett: Hmmmm. Any more available? I know the BCMs for 1882 and 1886 are at archive.org. <The game (from Harding's collection) 'Lord v Vansittart' is also missing...> You're not paying attention.
<Games awaiting upload: Lord - Vansittart (MWP, 31.05.1884) - submittedDudley - MacDonell (ISDN, 29.09.1883) - submitted Ranken - MacDonnell (L&W, 05.01.1884, p.18) - submitted Gossip - Hunter (ISDN, 07.11.1885, p.182) - submitted West - MacDonnell (ISDN, 04.08.1883, p.527) - submitted Puller - MacDonnell (ISDN, 23.07.1887, p.543) - submitted> So - at some point in the dim and distant future - we'll have 65 games here. This is exactly 20% of the total 325 games in the event (minus any defaults). |
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Jan-22-19
| | Jean Defuse: ...
https://www.mediafire.com/?xafbp92k... ... |
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Jan-22-19
| | MissScarlett: Blimey... |
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Feb-24-19
| | offramp: I like the name Vansittart.
Vansittart, Tredescant and McCormick, solicitors for oaths. |
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Feb-24-19
| | MissScarlett: I'm giving a shout-out to <Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble, Grubb>. |
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