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🏆 FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013)

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Played in Paris, France 22 September - 4 October 2013. This was the sixth and final tournament in the Grand Prix series 2012-13, the other ones being ... [more]

Player: Ruslan Ponomariov

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Fressinet vs Ponomariov  ½-½462013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB51 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
2. Ponomariov vs Giri  ½-½502013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC42 Petrov Defense
3. Grischuk vs Ponomariov ½-½862013FIDE Grand Prix ParisD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
4. Ponomariov vs Tomashevsky ½-½292013FIDE Grand Prix ParisD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
5. Caruana vs Ponomariov ½-½462013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC67 Ruy Lopez
6. Ponomariov vs L Dominguez  ½-½312013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC42 Petrov Defense
7. Ivanchuk vs Ponomariov ½-½402013FIDE Grand Prix ParisA14 English
8. Ponomariov vs Bacrot 0-1582013FIDE Grand Prix ParisA64 Benoni, Fianchetto, 11...Re8
9. Nakamura vs Ponomariov ½-½472013FIDE Grand Prix ParisE37 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
10. Ponomariov vs Wang Hao  ½-½472013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB12 Caro-Kann Defense
11. Gelfand vs Ponomariov ½-½242013FIDE Grand Prix ParisA88 Dutch, Leningrad, Main Variation with c6
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Oct-04-13  DirkMcCallahan: <He is not playing "stupid chess" meaning he will not get voluntarily into worse positions for the sake of "originality.">

In this case, it's not "originality." It's a shot at the World Championship.

Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: I really like nakamura because he plays fighting chess with his heart on his sleeve. You can see his thought process on his face. Plays with so much desire and passion. When he is struggling he shakes and thrashes in his seat he is physically uncomfortable. Another fun player to watch is Anish Giri. I love his analysis too. Very self deprecating but with a touch of arrogance and confidence in his own ideas. He will be a monster. The most entertaining players to watch in the game. They both say what is on their minds and are always frank. No deception in them. If a suggestion is stupid they will say it. If a suggested line is great they will say ahhhh yes i missed that and be willing to listen. They are always willing to talk after wins or losses.
Oct-04-13
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  perfidious: <SirRuthless: <bobtheknob>....Calm down. I am one of Nakamura's supporters here.>

<I am Nakamura's biggest fanboy ever.>

Fixed your post.

Oct-04-13  csmath: <<He is not playing "stupid chess" meaning he will not get voluntarily into worse positions for the sake of "originality."> In this case, it's not "originality." It's a shot at the World Championship. >

Here is the trick:
Losing game with Dominguez would have not done any good to him. He is smart enough to know that Dominguez is no fool to toy around.

And more important. Currently there are only three players I see that can be a wild card in the candidates: Caruana, Nakamura, Grischuk.

Which one you think has stated his moral high ground with this tournament the best?

The answer has to be: Caruana. Thus he is hoping to be the wild card. Unless Russians get organization of the Candidates that is the most likely outcome. :-)

Oct-04-13  csmath: I think Nakamura's chances are slim as he is universally disliked outside the US. And as far as the US goes, nobody gives a jack s... about chess anyway. Grischuk's chances are only in the case if Russians get the organization.

Caruana's chances are the best [unless Russians get the organization]. In July 2013 rating list he was the highest of the three. He just shared first in this tournament. And the sense of patriotic attachment to him in Italy has grown a bit. There will be likely people working for him in the background. :-) This could be another factor in his favor.

Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: I agree. I would love for nakamura to get a wild card but he said himself the only chance would be if the candidates wes held in the US. He will have to get in through his play in the next cycle. Go fab! He is a quiet, respectful young man. Definitely not an "ugly american" and I am a little envious that we don't have a player like that. Hopefully in the coming years a WCC contender will come out and play for the US. Until then we have nakamura as our only hope. Either way fresh blood is good for chess. Caruana Magnus battles will be fun in the future. He doesn't have the mental scarring that nakamura has from the repeated thrashings by magnus over the years. It will be fun to see his continued development.
Oct-04-13  Billy Vaughan: Just for reference, here is a list of all possible wildcards:

Nakamura
Caruana
Grischuk
Gelfand
Adams
Dominguez Perez
Ponomariov
Svidler
Morozevich
Leko
Ivanchuk
Giri
Wang Hao
Vitiugov
Kamsky
Radjabov

Oct-04-13  Billy Vaughan: <csmath: I think Nakamura's chances are slim as he is universally disliked outside the US>

I wonder how much this applies to tournament organizers, though. Nakamura has played in every elite tournament in the past couple of years, invitations not given to equally-qualified players like Karjakin, Caruana, Grischuk, and Radjabov. I don't think it's too hard to see why—Nakamura is American, which makes for interesting narratives, and plays aggressive chess that challenges the elite players (and has earned him winning records against Kramnik and Anand). I wouldn't be surprised if these characteristics attract the organizers of candidates tournament, plus the fact that his high rating will make the tournament look more legitimate and elite. He is, after all, the highest rated of possible wildcards.

I don't think Nakamura is the most likely wildcard, but I wouldn't rule him out as a possibility.

Oct-04-13  jphamlore: In the current format there are 6 spots where a player can guarantee himself a spot in the Candidates if he (or she) earns one: top 2 in World Cup, top 2 in Grand Prix, and top 2 in ratings as of a certain date.

The current format of the World Cup rewards those who can force draws until the situation is to their advantage. Nakamura is very good in rapid and blitz time controls. But Nakamura's current playing style is simply irrational and simply deprives him of a good shot at 2 out of the 6 chances he would have to make the Candidates.

If only American players had decided to emulate Fischer's opening preparation instead of other aspects ...

Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: <Billy Vaughn> Well I guess you are correct about the invites. He did say in his presser that he gets many opportunities to play against the very best that many others do not and that he was grateful for it. He also said he wasn't sure about playing in the next GP series and that he would focus only on upcoming events. I really wish they would just take the top ten on average since the last WCC match. Seems that ratings would be the fairest way. Else it can be something of a lottery.

Karjakin
Aronian
Kramnik
Loser of WCC
Fab
Nak
Grischuk
Svidler

All definitely belong in my mind. May just one slot for World Cup winner and one slot for the GP series winner would be fair just to keep some hope alive for outstanding performers in those events.

Oct-04-13  jphamlore: The World Cup is tailor-made for Nakamura if he would just learn to play standard openings and reliably draw with them as Black.
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: <jphamlore> You might be right about that. He should be able to draw with white vs gelfand no matter the defense. He is a gambler and a fighter. He refuses to back down and that costs him. Nevertheless he is a top 5 player in the world right now and there are several others who are going to play in candidates who will play drawish and perhaps even lifeless games. I prefer to see swashbuckling over super-solid drawfests.
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: <jphamlore> Its not his results with black so much as his strange results wit white that bug me. You are definitely onto something about the openings though.
Oct-04-13  csmath: Invitations are not a problem for the top-10 player regardless of the nationality. The higher rating they have the more invitations they get. In particular if their style is fighting one. Nakamura's situation is nothing special here. Even Leko was playing everywhere when he was top-10.
Oct-04-13  Rolfo: Naka and Caruana dead even on live rating, and Gelfand has overtaken Anand by some small decimals. After all it is Caruana who has made the greatest leap last year, and next is Gelfand.
Oct-04-13  thefirstharry: Yes agree wildcard is between Caruana, Nakamura and Grischuk. I'd love to see Nakamura as he has the most action-packed style, but I think it will (and should) probably be Caruana.
Oct-04-13  Refused: csmath: in case the tournament goes to Russia, would you rule out, they give it Svidler?

I mean, I agree with you, there is no way, the Russian chess federation will be picking Morozevich or Vitiugov.

But I am not so certain about picking Grischuk over Svidler.

An d you forgot another scenario, Azeris making a push for Radjabov. I don't think they will throw money away again, after Radjabov has been in a terrible shape this year. But I wouldn't rule it out neither.

Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: <thefirstharry> I agree, Fab is the most promising player between the two. Nakamura will have to get in through his play in future cycles. Most others in the elite chess community feel the same way. Personal feelings should have zero impact though because some players will never have a chance in that battle. A Benefit of playing well is that you control your own fate. When you have to rely on others, you will be subject to biases and must accept the results.
Oct-04-13  jphamlore: <SirRuthless> I am thinking of Nakamura's crashing out of World Cup 2013 with the Black pieces against Korobov by playing a non-opening, some weird confusion of the Slav with the Dutch:

A Korobov vs Nakamura, 2013

Oct-04-13  csmath: <csmath: in case the tournament goes to Russia, would you rule out, they give it Svidler?>

But of course if my wishes are concerned but I doubt they would care a bit. Vitiugov? I got his "French" book, he is an awesome young player but his chances compared to Grischuk are nill. Moro is on downslide for a while now. He is barely top-20. He is as old as Kramnik and his time is slowly running out.

Oct-04-13  Refused: Well in October there's still the Russian Super Final to come.

If Svidler wins another Russian Championship ahead of Grischuk, I am inclined to think, that Svidler would get the nod. In case the Russia makes a succesful bid for the candidates.

Grischuk and Svidler, I don't know who has better connections inside the chess federation, but from the outside it looks really like a 50-50 thing, of whom you want to give the wildcard.

Oct-04-13  devere: If all 4 Grand Prix results were counted instead of just the best 3, the final totals would be:

Caruana 460
Topalov 455
Mamedyarov 410

Caruana had the best overall results in the Grand Prix tournaments, but under FIDE rules it just makes him a Candidates Tournament alternate. These rules were decided on by FIDE after careful consultation with the space aliens, and should not be criticized by us lesser mortals.

Oct-04-13  Refused: Not really, the just count the best tournaments makes sense in a way. As to forgive one bad tournament or in case you have to cancel your participation at one event (like Svidler did in London).
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: <devere> Yes but has Caruana won a GP event? Consistent high finishes are great but why should he get in over someone who actually won a GP event. There rules are the rules as so many around here have so eloquently put it.The ability to win when you have to is going to be extremely important in candidates. The ability to play well in time scrambles will be critical as well.
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: If any of you are on FICS I am on there with the name SirRuthless. I am always open for a blitz game or lightning or perhaps a series.
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