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🏆 FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013)

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Played in Paris, France 22 September - 4 October 2013. This was the sixth and final tournament in the Grand Prix series 2012-13, the other ones being ... [more]

Player: Fabiano Caruana

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Caruana vs Bacrot ½-½332013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC45 Scotch Game
2. Wang Hao vs Caruana ½-½402013FIDE Grand Prix ParisD90 Grunfeld
3. Caruana vs Fressinet 1-0392013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
4. Grischuk vs Caruana ½-½592013FIDE Grand Prix ParisE60 King's Indian Defense
5. Caruana vs Ponomariov ½-½462013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC67 Ruy Lopez
6. Caruana vs Ivanchuk 1-0332013FIDE Grand Prix ParisC11 French
7. Nakamura vs Caruana 1-0342013FIDE Grand Prix ParisD70 Neo-Grunfeld Defense
8. Caruana vs Gelfand 1-0452013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB30 Sicilian
9. Giri vs Caruana ½-½652013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB07 Pirc
10. Caruana vs Tomashevsky 1-0362013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB12 Caro-Kann Defense
11. L Dominguez vs Caruana ½-½192013FIDE Grand Prix ParisB48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Oct-04-13  devere: "the just count the best tournaments makes sense in a way"

Yes, no doubt about it, everything makes sense in some way or other.

Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: Let Nakamura and Caruana play a classical match for the wild card. If 3-3 then Rapid games then blitz then armageddon.
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: They are on top of eachother on the live list.

Imagnie the viewership and interest it would bring. It would be a great idea even if it didn't determine the wildcard. Caru would have a chance to get even or even surpass their head to head record and nakamura would have a chance to make a statement for all to see. Either way it would be great for chess. Really Caruana should have been at sinquefield over kamsky. Would have made the event more competitive because gata has been out of form since he cracked the top ten in the spring.

Oct-04-13  DanteAlighieri: <SirRuthless> Yes, he did win a GP event. It happened today.
Oct-04-13  SirRuthless: Shared first. I stand corrected. Still I'd like to see that match. Would be interesting...
Oct-04-13  jphamlore: Curiously Caruana has his own repertoire problems. He is trying to earn his living playing tournaments and in between has to find time for his opening preparation. In addition to the Grunfeld he must be prepared to use the Ruy Lopez and Sicilian as well.

If one is going to invest the time to use the Grunfeld as Black, I suggest one at this level needs to amortize the time by being able to beat the Grunfeld as White. For this reason in the modern game I believe it is a mistake for a Grunfeld player as Black to mostly open 1. e4 as White as Caruana does.

Caruana used about as eccentric a defense as Nakamura did exiting World Cup 2013. Didn't Botvinnik use the Dutch Stonewall with a definite plan to launch an attack with the Black pieces?

http://www.chess.com/article/view/b...

The idea of trying to sit tight inside the Stonewall, never playing Ne4, and hoping White goes away is shockingly wrong for anyone familiar with this history.

Oct-04-13  waustad: Caruana now has to go quickly to Romania to play in the Kings Tournament. As far as I can tell he doesn't even have time to sit back and do laundry.
Oct-04-13  jphamlore: <waustad: Caruana now has to go quickly to Romania to play in the Kings Tournament. As far as I can tell he doesn't even have time to sit back and do laundry.>

Yes I have read an interview where Caruana mentioned exactly that grind of having to continuously play high level chess.

Oct-04-13  wtwz: <Refused: Well in October there's still the Russian Super Final to come.

If Svidler wins another Russian Championship ahead of Grischuk, I am inclined to think, that Svidler would get the nod. In case the Russia makes a succesful bid for the candidates.>

Russian Superfinal starts tomorrow, and Grischuk is not playing there.

<waustad: Caruana now has to go quickly to Romania to play in the Kings Tournament. As far as I can tell he doesn't even have time to sit back and do laundry.>

True, and this also applies to Ponomariov and Wang Hao.

Oct-05-13  waustad: Timing must be why Grischuk isn't in the Russian Superfinal. This weekend we have the Kings in Romania and both the Russian Superfinal and Chigorin Memorial starting.
Oct-05-13  waustad: This reminds me of a young singer asking a famous operatic diva what advice she could give to her as she began her career. The response was: "buy good luggage."
Oct-05-13  WiseWizard: Looks like the Russian Superfinal starts at 7 a.m. Eastern.
Oct-05-13  fisayo123: Can someone please tell me why Nakamura is considered a serious option for the candidates ahead of the likes of Caruana and Grischuk? He was pretty poor in the Grand Prix as a whole and has gotten nice points recently due to some gifts from his opponents.
Oct-05-13
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  Sokrates: Some pages earlier:

<SirRuthless: <Sokrates> Why should you care if Nakamura doesnt give credit to his opponent verbally? Did Nakamura not make a few critical blunders? What about the other players who didnt give credit? Did Caruana give credit to naka in that post game presser? No he said it was one of the worst game he has ever played... Why not single him out? Arrogant would be refusing the press conference? Win or loss nakamura has remained humble in his press conferences and always been willing to analyze or admit he missed something. Just come out and say you dont like the guy.>

I neither like or dislike Nakamura, since I haven't met him personally and probably never will. I just mentioned his reaction, which - and here you have a point to which I agree - is more the rule than the exception among players and elite sportsmen (although you can hear such acknowledgements in tennis, for instance after a Wimbledon final). Nakamura is probably not "worse" than other players, but is that good?

I know I have an old-fashioned romantic conception of sportsmanship. Kasparov mentions the phenomenon in his Predecessor-books, expressing his admiration for Steinitz and Lasker when admitted their defeat. More recently I recall Keres stating (after losing his candidates match against Spassky) that fatigue played no role - his opponent simply played better chess. True - these are exceptions, but why? I naively ask. Why shouldn't you compliment your opponent for having played better than you? Why not demonstrate generousity instead of pettiness? You gain the prestige of being a great sport, a person of great calibre.

"Why do you care ...?" - Oh, well, we all comment here on something we care about - so do you and others. I suppose that's why we comment here, right?

Oct-05-13  SirRuthless: <fisayo> You want to talk about gifts? Go take a look at caruana's games from thessaloniki and get back to me about "gifts".

Nakamura 2788.6

Caruana 2788.5

Nakamura Blitz=2879 World #1

Caruana Blitz=2687

Nakamura Rapid=2812 Top 5 in the world

Caruana Rapid=2783
What is he going to do in the event of a playoff?

Nakamura +3 vs Caruana with no losses
+3 vs Anand with no losses
+1 vs Kramnik
The guy is number 4 in the world right now. To pretend he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation is rather absurd. Not saying he is "better" because that would be an opinion but not supported by facts but he is definitely right there with Fab in classical chess and the rating bear that out

I say let them play a match for the WC if it is between those two. Doubtful that Caruana and his team would agree but you never know.

Oct-05-13  SirRuthless: <Sokrates> You completely dodged the questions. Why not hold others like Fabiano to the same standard?Just admit you don't like the guy. It's alright, this is sports.
Oct-05-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <SirRuthless>

Sokrates' response was far more generous than either you or Nakamura deserve.

Only a blind Nakamura homer like you would ever try to say the loser should react the same way in Nakamura-Caruana as in Nakamura-Gelfand. Caruana not only overlooked a simple combination, he forgot about published analysis showing that his 14th move lost on the spot. It was the equivalent of a club player hanging his queen.

Gelfand on the other hand played magnificently. Would have been nice for Naka to acknowlege that, but it was just too much to ask.

Oct-05-13  Rolfo: About Nakamura and his character. I saw him in close in London Classic 2011. Especially at one press conference after he won, he was joyful as a child and very well spoken. He kind of charmed the audience. Of course he has some downsides also. Who is perfect?

I think he is a colorful and even complex character, and afterall an attraction for every tourney.

Oct-05-13  Refused: <wtwz: <Refused: Well in October there's still the Russian Super Final to come. If Svidler wins another Russian Championship ahead of Grischuk, I am inclined to think, that Svidler would get the nod. In case the Russia makes a succesful bid for the candidates.> Russian Superfinal starts tomorrow, and Grischuk is not playing there.>

Thanks, that explains why, Karjakin and Svidler did both not play in Paris. I wonder whether Grischuk would have withdrawn too, if he had had no chances whatsoever to qualify for the candidates before the start of Paris.

Oct-05-13  SirRuthless: <keypusher>

World number 4 classical
World number 1 blitz by a good margin right now
top 5 in the world rapid

The numbers do all the talking. Let them play a match for the WC if it is between them. We all know that isn't going to happen. ;-)

Oct-05-13  SirRuthless: <Rolfo> Thanks for adding that. Naka is very engaging and always willing to analyze post game in wins and losses. He plays in skittles games with kids before, during and after events. He will talk to you on twitter. All around sporting guy and a nice guy. some people refuse to believe it. They cling to their ugly american stereotype of him because that is what they want to believe but it is not based in reality. He has grown into a great player and a fine young man.
Oct-05-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sokrates: <SirRuthless: <Sokrates> You completely dodged the questions. Why not hold others like Fabiano to the same standard?Just admit you don't like the guy. It's alright, this is sports.>

It's you who wants to fit me in your own square box of prejudices. I don't dodge anything - I kind of like nuances, so I wrote: "I neither like or dislike Nakamura, since I haven't met him personally and probably never will." and: "Nakamura is probably not "worse" than other players, but is that good?"

Ergo: the others should do the same - that's the whole point of my post, which you either can't or won't understand/accept.

Oct-05-13  dx9293: <fisayo123>: owned!

<SirRuthless> supports his favorite player strongly, but has facts on his side! Still, other kibitzers will ignore those facts and continue to bash while saying they aren't biased. I know the feeling.

<keypusher> Nakamura sometimes lacks grace, but so do many others. Kasparov is the biggest sore loser I have ever seen in chess, but this was usually ignored, and Carlsen is arrogant to his core but gets a complete pass for it. Nakamura hasn't helped himself, it's true (to me the worst was throwing Onischuk under the bus), but he is disproportionately singled out for his character.

Kramnik and Anand always seem to show class when they lose, and imho don't get the credit for sportsmanship they deserve.

Oct-05-13  dx9293: Oh God, <Sokrates> answering in a style <frogbert> himself would be proud of.

I am sympathetic to Nakamura if not a big fan, but I see many here who don't like him but aren't man enough to admit it.

Oct-05-13  SirRuthless: <Sokrates> Then why single him out in the first place? You sound like an intelligent guy but you seem unable to detect the same quality in others. Your backtracking is dishonest. Just admit you don't like the guy, this is sports. It's alright.

<dx9293> I knew I wasn't the only one who could smell something rotten in Denmark. Nakamura is unapologetic and uncompromising and this rubs some people the wrong way but they hide behind a thin veil of objectivity to hurl their bolts from some moral high ground. I wish they would just come out and say they don't like the guy but perhaps I care too much about what others think. I do value differing opinions but facts cannot be disputed.

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