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TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
GRENKE Chess Classic Tournament

Magnus Carlsen4.5/7(+3 -1 =3)[games]
Arkadij Naiditsch4.5/7(+2 -0 =5)[games]
Michael Adams4/7(+2 -1 =4)[games]
Fabiano Caruana4/7(+1 -0 =6)[games]
Levon Aronian3.5/7(+1 -1 =5)[games]
Etienne Bacrot3.5/7(+0 -0 =7)[games]
Viswanathan Anand2.5/7(+1 -3 =3)[games]
David Baramidze1.5/7(+0 -4 =3)[games]
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Chessgames.com Chess Event Description
GRENKE Chess Classic (2015)

The 3rd GRENKE Chess Classic was played in Baden-Baden, Germany 2-9 February 2015. Rounds began each day at 3 pm, with a single rest day on Thursday 5 February.
Carlsen and Naiditsch both got 4.5/7. After 2-2 in the playoff (two rapid games and two blitz games), Carlsen won the final Armageddon game Carlsen vs Naiditsch, 2015.

Official site: http://www.grenkechessclassic.de/20.... ChessBase: https://en.chessbase.com/post/grenk... Chess.com: https://www.chess.com/news/view/car... Crosstable (http://www.chess-results.com/tnr160...) :

Elo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 Carlsen 2865 * 0 1 1 1 4 2 Naiditsch 2706 1 * 1 4 3 Adams 2738 0 * 1 1 4 4 Caruana 2811 * 1 4 5 Aronian 2777 0 * 1 3 6 Bacrot 2711 * 3 7 Anand 2797 0 0 0 * 1 2 8 Baramidze 2594 0 0 0 0 * 1

Previous edition: GRENKE Chess Classic (2014). Next: GRENKE Chess Classic (2017) (there was no tournament in 2016).

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 28  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Bacrot vs D Baramidze ½-½312015GRENKE Chess ClassicD70 Neo-Grunfeld Defense
2. Aronian vs Carlsen ½-½642015GRENKE Chess ClassicD36 Queen's Gambit Declined, Exchange, Positional line, 6.Qc2
3. Adams vs Naiditsch ½-½612015GRENKE Chess ClassicC07 French, Tarrasch
4. Caruana vs Anand ½-½382015GRENKE Chess ClassicC53 Giuoco Piano
5. D Baramidze vs Aronian ½-½412015GRENKE Chess ClassicC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
6. Carlsen vs Adams 1-0642015GRENKE Chess ClassicA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
7. Anand vs Naiditsch ½-½532015GRENKE Chess ClassicD41 Queen's Gambit Declined, Semi-Tarrasch
8. Caruana vs Bacrot ½-½542015GRENKE Chess ClassicD70 Neo-Grunfeld Defense
9. Bacrot vs Anand ½-½372015GRENKE Chess ClassicC67 Ruy Lopez
10. Adams vs D Baramidze 1-0312015GRENKE Chess ClassicC78 Ruy Lopez
11. Aronian vs Caruana 0-1402015GRENKE Chess ClassicE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
12. Naiditsch vs Carlsen 1-0612015GRENKE Chess ClassicB06 Robatsch
13. Anand vs Carlsen 0-1362015GRENKE Chess ClassicA90 Dutch
14. Caruana vs Adams ½-½432015GRENKE Chess ClassicD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
15. D Baramidze vs Naiditsch 0-1272015GRENKE Chess ClassicA30 English, Symmetrical
16. Bacrot vs Aronian ½-½302015GRENKE Chess ClassicD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
17. Naiditsch vs Caruana ½-½652015GRENKE Chess ClassicC89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall
18. Carlsen vs D Baramidze 1-0492015GRENKE Chess ClassicC95 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Breyer
19. Aronian vs Anand 1-0342015GRENKE Chess ClassicD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
20. Adams vs Bacrot ½-½652015GRENKE Chess ClassicA15 English
21. Bacrot vs Naiditsch  ½-½372015GRENKE Chess ClassicE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
22. Caruana vs Carlsen ½-½262015GRENKE Chess ClassicC67 Ruy Lopez
23. Aronian vs Adams  ½-½562015GRENKE Chess ClassicA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
24. Anand vs D Baramidze 1-0652015GRENKE Chess ClassicC95 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Breyer
25. Carlsen vs Bacrot ½-½462015GRENKE Chess ClassicA48 King's Indian
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Feb-04-15  rogge: Carlsen avoids the perpetual, but might lose the game :)
Feb-04-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: The possibilities are endless here - no way they have time to calculate much
Feb-04-15  achieve: Completely irrelevant what the engines say here.

They do not talk, think, they are just programmed /calculation/evaluation monsters.

Second, the basis under the calculations is entirely human induced and created, only to be sped up by engines as in calculators.

Third, the horizon problem kicks in quite early, as the latest engines are pruning earlier than ever, in order to relay and flaunt a deep analysis of 23 Ply after 60 seconds, instead of after 3+ minutes.

Some positions the human excells, most positions in the long term the calculating beasts excell.

Feb-04-15  Absentee: <achieve: Completely irrelevant what the engines say here.

They do not talk, think, they are just programmed /calculation/evaluation monsters.>

So? How does this makes engine evaluations irrelevant?

Feb-04-15  Nf8: <Naiditsch gets a perpetual, according to engines [...] Carlsen avoids the perpetual, but might lose the game :)>

I doubt if that's the way Carlsen saw it, though ("avoiding a perpetual", that is). After 19...Rab8 (the recommended comp move) 20.Rxg7+ Kxg7 21.Bxf5 it might easily look to the human eye as a murderous attack by White; it's very tricky to make sure you're not simply getting mated.

Feb-04-15  rogge: Whatever, <achieve>. This comp gets to 30+ ply within a minute.

http://analysis.sesse.net/

Feb-04-15  achieve: exactly what I meant -- the number is hugely inflated, for a number of reasons; one is to sell the engine as the next better big thing, and sell it as representing much more than it really does.

This goes back a long way, and Rybka programmer Vasik Railich was very candid in admitting to the misleading depths involving in luring in new and old buyers for the new products.

This is all on record for anyone to review.

Feb-04-15  john barleycorn: <rogge: Carlsen avoids the perpetual, but might lose the game :)>

Just tell me when I should start singing the German national anthem :-).

Feb-04-15  rogge: <Hosting and multi-PV analysis hardware by Studentersamfundet i Trondhjem>

It's a University computer cluster, it's not for sale.

Obviously.

Feb-04-15  rogge: <john barleycorn: <rogge: Carlsen avoids the perpetual, but might lose the game :)> Just tell me when I should start singing the German national anthem :-).>

Naiditsch beats him all the time, doesn't he :)

Feb-04-15  haydn20: With the exchanges on c6, MC may have rescued his draw.
Feb-04-15  john barleycorn: <rogge> on regular days, he wins regularly. Jawohl.
Feb-04-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: <With the exchanges on c6, MC may have rescued his draw.>

All 3 results possible here

Feb-04-15  Absentee: Maybe it's me, but I still don't understand what achieve is talking about.
Feb-04-15  rogge: I'd say you better get ready soon, <jay-b>.
Feb-04-15  rogge: <Absentee>, there are at least two of us, then.
Feb-04-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <john> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the German national anthem now?
Feb-04-15  Absentee: Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
Feb-04-15  haydn20: OOPS. I just saw 28 Nxe4! fxe4 29 Be6 and Black may be back in the soup.
Feb-04-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: Carlsen's flag is flagging, I fear...
Feb-04-15  Kudzi123: On magnus game if pawns are out of the game next thing exchange rooks game drawn.
Feb-04-15  john barleycorn: Let's get used to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es7...

Feb-04-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: Carlsen, as usual, is outplaying his opponent in time scamble
Feb-04-15  rogge: An exciting game, I have to admit.
Feb-04-15  haydn20: Why I love watching humans play. White finds Nxe4 but has only 1 min to work out complications thrown at him by Carlsen--and can't do it.
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