chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Richard Teichmann vs Carl Schlechter
"Carl's Bad Day" (game of the day Apr-07-2015)
Karlsbad (1911), Karlsbad (Karlovy Vary) AUH, rd 18, Sep-14
Spanish Game: Closed. Pilnik Variation (C90)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 35 times; par: 26 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 28 more Teichmann/Schlechter games
sac: 19.Bxf7+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Dec-11-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < whiteshark: <Penguincw> You can include 400 games per collection and you (thoughtlessly?) used the plural. :D >

I guess so.

Dec-11-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: This is game #83 in Tartakower & Du Mont's "500 Master Games of Chess". An elegant and quite straightforward combination.
Dec-11-11  dgbuckmeister: <brankat: <Karlsbad 1911 ˇ Spanish Game: Closed. Pilnik Variation (C90) ˇ 1-0> The game was played in 1911, GM Herman Pilnik was born in 1914. So, why is the variation named after him? :-)>

Interest in chess is often passed down from father to son. The opening was probably named after his father.

Dec-11-11  dgbuckmeister: I got thru to Qxf5 but missed "the GOOT" Qg6!
Dec-11-11  DarthStapler: I got the first 3 moves
Dec-11-11  Dr. J: Color me somewhat skeptical here - it seems that none of the posters who called this one relatively easy have explained why 24 Qg6 was necessary and why Teichmann didn't play 24 Re3 directly. I have seen a few published analyses, all giving 24 Qg6 a ! or a !!, describing it as "the sort of quiet move that is very difficult to see in advance".
Dec-11-11  stst: expect a long sequence, but first sight and actually even after a second's reflection, is still 19.Bxf7+
lots of variation, but probably the main line would be 19..KxB
20.Nxe5+ Pxe5
21.Qh5+ g6
22.Qxh7+ Ke6
23.Ng7+ Kd7
24.NxR KxN
25.Re3... etc
and W has the initiatives.
Dec-11-11  M.Hassan: "Insane" White to play 19.?
Sides are equal
I went threough 3 different lines all starting with 19.Bxf7+. All 3 lines end up with advantage for White and in here I write the line that appealed to me the most with the help of Chessmaster

19.Bxf7+ Kxf8
20.Nxd6 Qd7
21.Ng5 Qxd6
22.Qf3 Nf5
23.Qxf5 Rfb8
24.Bd5+ Ke7
25.Qf7+ Kd8
26.Ne6+ Kc8
27.Nxc5 Qe7
28.Qxe7 Nxe7
29.Bxb7+ Rxb7
30.Nxb7 Kxb7
White enters endgame with clear material advantage

Dec-11-11  M.Hassan: Sorry
Correction:
19.Bxf7+ Kf8 <not Kxf8>
Dec-12-11  jackalope: Thank you, <Scormus>!

<rilkefan>, in the <20. ... Kf6> line, you recommend <23. Qg4> and <karizen> recommends <21. Qg4> - doesn't the earlier Qg4 lessen the pressure on Black? In my line, if <25. ... Nf4 26. Qf5+> and White's attack continues. Or am I missing something?

Dec-12-11  rilkefan: <<jackalope>: in the <20. ... Kf6> line, you recommend <23. Qg4> and <karizen> recommends <21. Qg4> - doesn't the earlier Qg4 lessen the pressure on Black?>

Stockfish appears to think that the Qg4 lines just transpose with best play.

<In my line, if <25. ... Nf4 26. Qf5+>>

SF was suggesting 25...Bc8. It prefers not to play Qg4 in the first place, as Bc8 drives the Q to g3, where she becomes a little exposed to Rg8 and blocks g2->g3 holding f4 - in fact it plays Qg3->Qf3->d1 after Bc8 and after a long think decides the position is only worth half a pawn (which is admittedly hard to believe given all those passers). Instead it prefers 25.h4.

Dec-12-11  jackalope: Thanks for looking it over, <rilkefan>. I see what you're saying - as there is no immediate mate solution, it makes sense for White to consolidate his position.
Mar-02-15  Ulhumbrus: According to Edward Lasker Teichmann said that 24 Qg6!! was the move which Schlechter had overlooked: An immediate 24 Re3 would have allowed 24...g6 whereas after 24 Qg6 Black could not defend his second rank in that way.
Apr-07-15  RookFile: Horowitz said that Teichmann was blind in one eye but had keen tactical sight of the board.
Apr-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: 25...Ne7 26. Qh7+ Kf8 27. Rf3+ Nf5 28. Rxf5+ Ke7 29. Rf7+, etc. Or 26. Qf7+ Kh8 27. Rh3+ Qxh3 28. gxh3 Bc8. (If, e.g., 28...Rab8, then 29. Ne6.)
Apr-07-15  shivasuri4: 25...Ne7 is better met with 26.Qf7+ Kh8 27.Ne6, forcing 27...Qxe6 owing to the threat of 28.Rh3#.
Apr-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: Teichmann was one of the more dangerous players from that era; If you took your eye off him for just a second, watch out
Apr-07-15  ajile: Doesn't the modern variation of this opening have Black playing g6 to stop the White knight invasion of f5? Black plays ..Rfe8,..g6,..Bf8 and then ..Bg7 giving Black a more robust K-side.
Apr-07-15  Moszkowski012273: 23.exf5... looks stronger.
Apr-07-15  dunican: This pun is pretty awesome. Not only was it really Carl's bad day in Karlsbad but "bad" translates to German as "schlecht." So I guess he was lucky it wasn't an even worse day for him.
Apr-07-15  pedro99: I think this was in Vukovic's 'Art of Attack in Chess', an excellent and still rewarding book which someone has yet to return to me!
Apr-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: White will mate quickly...
Apr-07-15  Amarande: On the topic of 24 Qg6 vs 24 Re3 ... it is indeed largely subjective - objectively, at depth 19 (which my silicon reaches in just a few seconds), Rybka gives an evaluation of 4.58 in favour of White at the end of the game as played, while inputting 24 Re3 g6 25 Qxg6+ Qg7 instead gives an evaluation of 4.21 at the same depth, so both moves are clearly winning.

However, from the practical standpoint, Qg6 is definitely the better choice even if the objective difference is small - after this, Black is definitely forced to almost immediately give up the Queen for the Rook in order to prevent rapid mate; thus, White is left with Q+2P for R+B and still has his Queen and Knight in virulent attacking formation as well. After Re3, the winning line gets much more complicated to enforce the Q for R trade (exchanging Queens leads to a material-even - White has three Pawns for the Bishop - endgame that appears to lead to a draw); in this regard Rybka gives (after g6 25 Qxg6+ Qg7):


click for larger view

22 01:04 38,311k 613k +4.34 Qg6-h5 Nc6-e7 Ng5-e6 Qg7-h7 Re3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Qh5-g5 Ne7-g8 Ne6-g7 Re8-e7 Ng7-f5 Ra8-f8 Rg3-h3 Qh7xh3

Thus, in the end, 24 Qg6 was definitely far more in order.

Apr-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <shivasuri4: 25...Ne7 is better met with 26.Qf7+ Kh8 27.Ne6>. True. Thanks.
Dec-14-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: The bishop has little to do after 13..Bb7?!; 13..Be6, 13..Re8 or 13..h6 are alternatives. Perhaps 16..Bf8 would have been an improvement. Also 17..Bd8 looks better than what was played. A pretty variation would have been 20..Kf6 21 Nxh7+..Kf7 22 Ng5+..Kf6 23 Nxg7!. 24 Qg6! is the key move - the type of move that players like me never consider.
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 3)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Great Midgame Tactical Finishes
by Jaredfchess
Game 83
from 500 Master Games of Chess by hencha
[Game 99] The Briliancy Prize, p. 267
from The Fireside Book of Chess by Phony Benoni
Teichmann
from Chess has something magic .... by arielbekarov
April 7: Carl's Bad Day
from Game of the Day 2015 by Phony Benoni
Game 15
from Brilliancy Prizes (Reinfeld) by Incremental
karlzen's favorite games
by karlzen
Ruy Lopez...
by Supriya Guru
Insane Games [GotD & PotD]
by trh6upsz
Standard Kingside Attack You Should Know
from 1900s Grandmasters Annointed by fredthebear
Solitaire Chess by I. A. Horowitz, p. 101
from yDecoy To-o, Deflection From, Remove Fredthebear by fredthebear
Game 15
from Brilliancy Prizes (Reinfeld) by Qindarka
BEST CHESS GAMES
by Holadola
I DONT GET B C8 PREVENT R H3
from Soņar no cuesta nada by Chess Guevara
A queen comes to kill a king.
from Caīssa's dream world by nikolaas
Game 83
from Master Games - Chess (Tartakower/du Mont) by Jersey Joe
Las Mil y Una Partidas (1001 Chess Games)
by K9Empress
Good tactical play by Teichmann in his Ruy Lopez.
from Checkmate123's favorite games by Checkmate123

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2020, Chessgames Services LLC