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John Owen vs Wilhelm Steinitz
London (1862), London ENG
English Opening: Anglo-Dutch Defense (A10)  ·  1-0

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May-25-04  Woodpusher: Nice analysis of this ending here http://it.e-technik.uni-ulm.de/~eng...
Oct-05-07  RookFile: This was a really doubled edged endgame!
Oct-05-07  euripides: Efectively a Petrosian QID, a hundred years early.
Jul-01-08  Whitehat1963: Player of the Day beats Steinitz, too!
Apr-08-14
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  mike1: Think that Steinitz was winning at move 47. Instead of 47.. Rh3 he should have played Rb2+. 48. Kf1 Kf5 and White cannot keep pushing his pawns and protecting the b5 at the same time.
Jan-13-16  zanzibar: The German wiki has an entire page devoted to this game...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duboi...

There seems to be a section discussing the validity and accuracy of the score (i.e. movelist), in particular, of move 22.

I find the google translation confusing, could a German speaker perhaps comment?

Thanks.

PS- <woodpusher>'s link is now stale. Too bad.

Jan-14-16  sneaky pete: That Wiki link refers to Dubois vs Steinitz, 1862

Bachmann's typo, copied by Reti and others, is discussed there and the gamescore has been corrected.

Jan-14-16  zanzibar: Yes, thanks <sneaky>, I posted to the wrong game. It looks as if I just simply landed on the wrong game, thinking it was the other one. My bad.

OK, looks as if the all is well from reading the other page - as you said.

Jan-17-16  zanzibar: Let me try commenting on this game again, being a little more careful than last time.

There is another game between these players, a draw, here:

Steinitz vs Owen, 1862 (1/2-1/2)

Lowenthal's tournament book, on p lv, contains this:

<THE GRAND WEEK

On Monday, the 30th June, the spacious saloon of St. James's Hall was thrown open to the members. The walls were decorated with the flags of all nations, four long rows of tables covered with green cloth occupied the centre; a platform at one end forming a separate apartment, being reserved for the Managing Committee. At an early hour the players in the Tournaments, and amateurs who had hitherto been scattered about London, began to congregate, and the room soon wore an animated appearance. On Messrs. Anderssen and Paulsen entering the lists for their contest in the Grand Tournament, the interest of the spectators became centered in the struggle between these two celebrated players. The game lasted four hours, and was won by Herr Anderssen, whose chances of obtaining the first prize were thus materially increased. Three other en counters took place in the Grand Tournament. Mr. Barnes won of Mr. V.Green; Mr. Owen defeated Mr. Steinitz, and Messrs. Dubois and Blackburne had a drawn game.>

Two pages later, on p lvii is mention of the next day - Tues, July 1st.

Thus I think it reasonalbe to assume the "Mr. Owen defeated Mr. Steinitz" is referring to the first day of THE GRAND WEEK, i.e. Monday, the 30th.

I'm not sure when the draw between these players occurred, but I don't think it was on the 30th, given that the game here matches the result reported by Lowenthal for that day.

Feb-04-17
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  Big Pawn: Owen played determinedly. I bet during the game there was a feeling of back and forth, an ebb and flow to the game, but Owen outplayed him.

Owen actually played rather well in this game. Steinitz at this point in his career was just another chump. He was no Morphy yet.

Jul-01-17  Marcelo Bruno: The priest played an interesting positional game.
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