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James Mason vs Simon Winawer
"Now Who's the Winawer?" (game of the day Oct-22-2010)
Vienna (1882), Vienna AUH, rd 27, Jun-13
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo (C50)  ·  1-0



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  patzer2: White must avoid throwing away the win with 47. Qc7?? Rc5 48. Qxd6 R(b8)xc8, when black has a fighting chance with two rooks versus the queen.
Aug-23-03  ughaibu: How about 46.Bb7?
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  crafty: 46. ♗b7 ♔a7 47. ♕e6 ♖ff8 48. ♕e7 ♖xb7 49. ♕xf8   (eval 9.93; depth 16 ply; 250M nodes)
Aug-23-03  MoonlitKnight: As so often, an easy puzzle, yet a brilliantly spotted combination in game play.
Mar-08-06  LluviaSean: WOW...30 moves without a pawn being taken....
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  offramp: I believe this was played on the 13th June 1882.
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  chancho: This game is very lightly annotated in Lasker's Manual of Chess,(pg 272) but for some reason, the score goes only until the 46th move, when it says black resigns. Either Lasker was trying to save space in the manuscript for his book or he misread the score. This was a beautifully played game by Mason btw.
Feb-12-09  WhiteRook48: 44. Bc8+!! interferes between the black queen and the black rook. Nice game.
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  Benzol: Glad to see that this game is a showpiece in a number of collections.


Jun-21-09  Granny O Doul: This was my favorite game, or favorite finish, anyway, in the Tartakover-Dumont book.
Oct-04-10  sevenseaman: Mason has shown enterprise and ingenuity.
24, Bc8+ is brilliant. It produces an awkward double check that compromises the future of the Black Q as the B screens off the R.
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  kevin86: James Mason's chess play is as good as the actor's acting.

A brilliant game-the 43rd move is a fine one-equal to Marshall's Great swindle moves and close to his gold piece move.

Oct-22-10  twin phoenix: wow this was a great game! <patzer2> has hit the nail on the head with his analysis, and yes the technique of winning with B+Q versus 2 R was impeccable.

My Q is very early on. 5. B-e3!? is this a good move for white? I know from practicle experience that it's in no way easy to refute this move. but what about 5.--,Bxe3? Pro:
black exchanges his 'bad bishop' for whites good one. Con:
White recaptures 6. fxe3 and white gets an extra center pawn and a semi-open F file for his rook. I have never really been able to determine if the resulting position is good for white or not?? I hope some of my outstanding chessgames colleagues can offer some insight...

Oct-22-10  twin phoenix: playing thru the game 1 last time i noticed black wastes a tempo by moving the c5 bishop once before going ahead and exchanging as in my previous post. If Bxe3 was going to be played, should it not have been played immediately??
Oct-22-10  twin phoenix: sorry for the multiple posts but this game is worth looking at carefully!! 40. Rxg5!! has not been mentioned above as an outstanding move so i will say that it's truly gorgeous chess. Would black have not been better off with 42. --,Qxd7,however? Yes, it will drop a rook after 43. Qxd7,Kxd7 44. Rxb8 but the resulting rook ending would seem more preferable for black than what actually happened.
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  chrisowen: And tch in hoar. Frost white knight in event ok opening ray sunshine nh4 nf5 parennial spell.

Right it seeth ring black king comrade part wart rf6 oy installed ears to cupping rook xg5. Black raft work cheese going favors whites wagon.

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  chrisowen: Slot rocket qh7+ hell man salad dressing 45.qxg8 reign. Bow to mat king a7 ji web lush rien more.

Did late in dangle queenside stonewall it mouse chess yussow?

Feb-28-12  master of defence: Isnīt better 42... Qxd7? After 43. Qxd7+ Kxd7 44. Rxb8 Rxf5 black is down 2 pawns, but is better than the game, no?
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  Sastre: If 42...Qxd7, 43.Rc4+ Kd8 44.Qh8+ Qe8 45.Qxf6+ Qe7 46.Qh8+ Qe8 47.Qg7 Qe7 48.Qg8+ Qe8 49.Qxg5+ Qe7 50.f6 .
May-24-12  Anderssen99: Isn't 46.Qe8 stronger?
Nov-19-12  JonathanJ: ..
46. Bb7+ Kxb7
47. Qh7+


46. Bb7+ Ka7
47. Qh7

should win right away.

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  Phony Benoni: <"Mason was born in Ireland.

"New York adopted him at an early age. As critic and author, I think his fame is secure. He ranked high in many tournaments. As player, he had the unique quality of competently simmering through six aching hours and scintillating in the seventh. Other resembled him but forgot to scintillate.

"The deep, charming combination begun with 39.Qh5 rises on wings."> -- William Ewart Napier

Aug-30-13  notyetagm: J Mason vs Winawer, 1882

In the immortal words of GM Susan Polgar,


Jun-03-16  The Kings Domain: Quite a thrilling game contested ably well by the combatants.
Jul-24-17  sudoplatov: 44.Bc8 reminds me of the famous Reti vs Bogolyubov game in 1924.
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