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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Mikhail Chigorin
London (1883), London ENG, rd 3, Apr-30
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Steinitz Gambit Zukertort Defense (C25)  ·  0-1

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Apr-27-07  Pragmatist: Strange that Chigorin didn't play the mate-in-2 30...Qh1+ 31.Bg1 Qh3++
Oct-05-07  RookFile: You've got to hand it to Steinitz. No matter how many times he got hit over the head with this opening, he was always back for more.
Oct-05-07  FHBradley: In the chessgames.com database there are 21 games where Steinitz plays this opening, the total score being +17 -3 =1 for Steinitz, but you are, evidently, mesmerized by the picture of Steinitz getting hit over the head or being slapped around.
Oct-05-07  RookFile: <FHBradley: In the chessgames.com database there are 21 games where Steinitz plays this opening, the total score being +17 -3 =1 for Steinitz, but you are, evidently, mesmerized by the picture of Steinitz getting hit over the head or being slapped around.>

Actually, there are 13 games involving the line in question: 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 exf4 4. d4 Qh4+

... and Steinitz lost 4 of them with the white pieces.

But thanks for padding his stats with games where ...Qh4+ wasn't played.

Oct-16-07  FHBradley: It seems that my poor maths got the better of me (I would still say it's +10 -4, rather than +9 -4, for Steinitz, as I think the game against Zukertort Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886 should be included in the statistics). Still, I wouldn't describe it as Steinitz getting hit over head. But you're "entitled" to your opinion.

<But thanks for padding his stats with games where ...Qh4+ wasn't played.> You're welcome.

Apr-27-09  Fanacas: This opening is quite playbale and was once one of the major lines of the vienna^^ Rookfile is just on his eternal quest to disgrace steinitz.
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