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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Johannes Zukertort
London (1883), London ENG, rd 20, Jun-07
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Anderssen Variation (C77)  ·  0-1

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Feb-10-04  Whitehat1963: Didn't Steinitz know it was over? Was he praying for a stalemate? I can't figure out why he waited so long to resign.
Feb-10-04
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  tamar: <Whitehat-"I can't figure out why he waited to resign so long".> Steinitz had been exchanging barbs with Leopold Hoffer, and co-editor Zukertort through 1882-83 in their newly created Chess Monthly. "Thereafter Hoffer and Zukertort were embroiled in a much more protracted antagonism with the editor of the Field, Wilhelm Steinitz, who took exception to criticism of his annotations of a match between Zukertort and Blackburne. The backbiting and provocation, always expressed in the most grandiloquent tones, continue in every issue to the end of the year. Wonderful stuff - but thank heavens modern-day chess editors are not obliged to behave like this. (Reviewed by BCM). 382 pages" http://moravian-chess.cz/moravian-c...
Feb-10-04
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  tamar: The 1881 Zukertort-Blackburne match is available with Steinitz' notes from the Field at: http://www.chessarch.com/excavation...
Feb-10-04  clendenon: sorry, tamar, i mentioned elsewhere that Tamar was a girls name (Gen 38:6) I hope i didnt offend you.
Feb-10-04
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  tamar: Yes, and I am 7000 years old too.
Feb-11-04  Stavrogin: Zukertort would have given Morphy a very hard time. The fact that Z was the greatest attacking player of his time combined with the fact that he favored closed openings as white (!) would have gotten M into trouble.

Beatiuful games are those of Zukertort. They actually makes the hand feel good when playing through them.

Jul-25-09  morphynoman2: 48. Kxc2? Correct is 48. Ke2 Rc3 49. e5 Kf8 50. f4! gxf4 51. Kd2 Rg3 52. Rxc2 Rxg4 53. Rc8+ Ke7 54. Kd3= (Fritz11)
May-24-12
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  Morten: Steinitz might have saved everyone the trouble of the last 30-odd moves. Personal antagonism may have had something to do with it but there are many other examples of Steinitz playing on and on in hopeless positions. Plus, in an earlier round at London, Zukertort had gifted Steinitz a point by blundering in a won position.
May-24-12  Petrosianic: Saved who? The lower rungs like to see the way the pros handle these kind of endings. The people who don't need to see it could have just stopped watching just before Move 50, confident in the knowledge that Zukertort was going to win and they didn't need to see the rest.
Feb-16-13  leka: Zukertort lear to play chess at age 19 years old.It is an amazing how good Zukertort did play.Chigorin and Akiba Rubinstein learn to play at age 18 yers old.They also almost the world championship level players!!! Capablanca learn to play at 4 years old.Fischer at age 6 years like Kasparov.Zukertort Chigorin Rubinstein would have been the world champs if they stared earlier
Jan-17-15  poorthylacine: TO PETROSIANIC: I agree, but did Steinitz play in this tournament in order to give lessons for the students? So when you ask: "Saved who?", I am just tempted to answer: "saved Zukertort", because everyone attending this tournament knew that the cardiac health of Zukertort was then not good; all his fans were afraid he would collapse before the end of the competition, at least it is quoted in the tournament book; so do you think Steinitz alone did not know that?

But I do not insinuate Steinitz prolonged the game just to try to "kill" his most dangerous opponent; I really think he had not such "a soul of mud" -as he said about Hoffer; let's not forget for instance he published his admiration for the splendid and famous win of Zukertort against Blackburne in one of the same tournament's games; I suppose he was just in bad mood, like was even the kind gentleman Spassky playing the end of his 16th game with Fischer in 1972...

Aug-21-19  RookFile: The endgame is not as simple as it looks. Keres discusses this specific game in Practical Chess Endings and is critical of Zukertort's technique. There was a trap Steinitz could have played for that he mentions. The main problem Keres has with Zukertort's technique was he pushed the pawns too fast rather than first improve his king position to the maximum. For example, Zukertort could have played 64...Rh4, followed by ....Rf4 then ....Rf6 and then improved his king position. The computer would play it differently, but that would be a fairly simple "human" way of bringing this position to a quick win.
Aug-21-19  Straclonoor: <For example, Zukertort could have played 64...Rh4> Schredder 6-man TB gives 64....Rd1, Rh4, Rh3 and h6-h5 as best moves mating in 35. 64....Rb1 mates in 36.

<The endgame is not as simple as it looks.> Exactly!
I played this type of ending (knight + rook pawns + Rook vs. Rook) with my uncle 6 or 7 (!) times and couldn't won one of it. It's fineshed by draw and one loss for me (I'm missed mate)! I was 15 years old and had to study this type of ending religiously.

Nov-09-19  SymphonicKnight: A pretty game. This is a unique game from 8.Bc2. Zukertort here showed Steinitz that he too could play with a closed and cramped position. Even a pawn down at move 25, Stockfish considers the position dead even. The aesthetic impression of the position in the late 30s is pretty cool, and the ideas of both players palpably surreal in their stark beauty and purpose ... that is, memorably instructive with Steinitz' blunder on 48. In response to Keres' assessment of Zukertort's play, Stockfish disagrees, and the eye-test as well. Stockfish' impression on move 55 is self-corrected at 42-ply on move 56.
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