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David Janowski vs Johann Nepomuk Berger
Karlsbad (1907), Karlsbad (Karlovy Vary) AUH, rd 14, Sep-07
Queen Pawn Game: Krause Variation (D02)  ·  1-0

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May-07-04  poktirity: And what comes after this?
May-07-04  FerociousBeast: Its a checkmate if black captures the rook. 34. N-g6++. 33. ..Pxg5 is answered with 34. Rxh6+ which is a checkmate in 4. and 33. ..Pxe5 is answered with Rxh6+ winning big material.

best play is 33. ..Q-h7 Giving up the Women Like Yo give up YO MOMMA.

FEROCIOUSFERBY AWKwARDLY ENOUGH U CAN FIND A PICTURE OF ME THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE ME ON HERE SOME PLACE AWKWARD VERY AWKWARD

May-07-04
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  tpstar: 1) 33 ... Rxe7/Bxe7 34. Ng6++.
2) 33 ... fxe5 34. Rxh6+! gxh6 35. Qxe5+ mates.
3) 33 ... fxg5 34. Rxh6+! gxh6 35. Ng6++.
May-07-04  weary willy: Nepomuk?! Don't get many of those on this page
May-07-04  erikcu: Really fun once you see it. Unfortunately I overlooked the pin the Queen could provide and thought it might have been Nc6, in an attempt to promote the pawn.
May-07-04  Avenger: <FerociousBeast: Its a checkmate if black captures the rook. 34. N-g6++. 33. ..Pxg5 is answered with 34. Rxh6+ which is a checkmate in 4. and 33. ..Pxe5 is answered with Rxh6+ winning big material.>

FUZZBALL, U CANT EVEN COPY THE ANALYSIS OF THE CHESS PROGRAM U USED PROPERLY!!!

33fxg5 34. Rxh6+ IS NOT A CHECKMATE IN 4:
34Qh7 35. Ng6 Kg8 36. RxQh7 RxRe7 37. Rh8+ Kf7 38. NxRf8 and White is up a queen and a pawn against Black.

33fxe5 is a MATE IN 4:
33fxe5 34. Rxh6+ gxRh6 35. Qxe5+ Rf6 36. QxRf6+ Qg7 37 QxQg7++

PAY ATTENTION, FB SO U CAN ONE DAY BE RATED ABOVE 1200 USCF!

May-07-04  rndapology: lol...I was going to do a post like Avenger's. It seems FB has made the same kind of typo he has used as evidence previously for a poster being 1200 uscf. As for the move that prolongs the horror the best, Qh7 is a good candidate.
May-07-04  ruylopez900: Nice attack with everything jammed into one corner =D. I saw the Knights mate, but as looking for a Queen sac on e6 to maybe do the trick. (With the idea of 32.Qxe6 and then grab the g pawn (or have the opponent stupidly recapture) but then I realized the Knight also guarded the square. On the whole, pinning the pawn seem cool.
May-07-04  talchess2003: yea i was thinking about that too, i believe Qxe6 fxe6 Rxe7 wins back material and leaves white up a pawn, but it still cant compare with the crushing Qc3..
May-07-04  Whitehat1963: I confess, didn't see this one at all. Must be Friday.
May-07-04  FerociousBeast: Oh I just looked at the combinations and wrote them down.. yah I got them mixxed up thanks for checking me over with a Program.
May-07-04  FerociousBeast: Someday when You can play chess over 1200 uscf you will not have to rely on a program
May-07-04  Ed Caruthers: I like 32.Qxe6 better than Janowskis move.
32fxe6; 33.Ng6#
32Nc8; 33.Rxh6+, gxh6; 34.Qxh6+
32Ng6; 33.Nxg6+, fxg6; 34. Qxg6, Rf6; 35.Rxh6+ again. 32g6; 33.Ng5xf7+, Rxf7; 34.Nxf7+, Kg7 (34Kh7; 35.Rxh6+, Kg7; 36.Rh8, Qxf7; 37.Rh7+); 35.Qe5+,Kxf7; 36.Rf4#
May-07-04
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  Gypsy: <I like 32.Qxe6 better than Janowski?s move. 32?fxe6; 33.Ng6# > 33...Nxg6.
May-07-04
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  Chessical: <EdCaruthers> There is no mate after <32.Qxe6?> 33.fxe6 Ng6 <34.Nxg6>
May-07-04  beenthere240: It's annoying to have put Feeble Bloviator on ignore only to still have to read everyone's continued replies to him!
May-07-04
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  kevin86: To <Ferocious Beast et al> "Can't we all get along?"-Rodney King-1994

I enjoy the problem set up of black's major pieces on the king side. It's also rather predictable that white would deliver the knockout punch with two knights.

May-07-04  tud: How about 32 Qxe6 fxe6 33 Rxe7 ?
May-07-04  capanegra: <tud> 33...Rxf2+ followed by 34...g6.
May-07-04  crafty: 32. ♕xe6 fxe6 33. ♖xe7 ♖xf2+ 34. ♔h3 ♕f8 35. ♘g6+ ♔g8   (eval -6.27; depth 16 ply; 500M nodes)
May-07-04  myratingstinks: don't know about the rest of you, but I jealously guard my knights for endgames like this.
May-07-04
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  chessgames.com: 32.Qb2 is just as good as 32.Qc3, but from what we've seen there aren't any other moves which force an immediate result.
May-07-04  chessmantra: I agree with <myratingstinks> Knights for endgames become highly important for a checkmate, specially when everything is stacked up in one corner :-) and nobody has a place to move wildly all over the board ... I tried all the combinations except Qxe6 ... Oh, I should have guessed this !!! ... Thanks <crafty>
May-07-04  mikhs: I see that FerociousBeast received a dose of his own medicine today from Avenger....How does it feel ?
May-07-04  morphyvsfischer: Hey, look! Janowski gave up his Bishop pair!
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