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Hermanis Mattison vs Savielly Tartakower
Debrecen (1925), Debrecen HUN, rd 6, Aug-16
Indian Game: Saemisch-Indian (A50)  ·  0-1



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  Phony Benoni: After <22.Nb1>:

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A relative of the ...Rxc3 sacrifice in the Sicilian Dragon. White's development leaves a bit to be disired.

Oct-08-16  Aunt Jemima: I saw all the way up to 17. Re3 but couldn't see a clear way to follow up after that. I would have played this sac quickly in tournament play, just based on the ruined king side and the availability of nice attacking squares for all the pieces. It turns out that black has to be accurate and Tartakower was indeed accurate. Great attack.
Oct-08-16  stacase: The Rook sacrifice was the thing to do, but over the board I can't say I could have capitalized on that all the way to the win.
Oct-08-16  devere: 13...Rxf3 is obvious, and after that almost any reasonable continuation by Black wins. Stockfish likes 14...Qh4 best, but I think I probably would have played 14...Qg5+ followed by 15...Qf4 on Kh1 or ...Nf4 on Kf1.
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  al wazir: I didn't get it, but after playing the game out I think 17. Bg2 would have been better for white, and if 17...Be5 then 18. Rg1.
Oct-08-16  patzer2: Not so difficult for a Saturday is today's positional exchange sacrifice puzzle solution 13...Rxf3 .

My follow-up after 14. gxf3 was 14...Be5! (-2.95 @ 22 depth, Deep Fritz 15). This is surely as good as the game follow-up 14. gxf3 Nf4 (-1.88 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 15).

Perhaps the strongest winning follow-up is 14. gxf3 Qg5+ (-3.28 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 15).

White lost the advantage of the first move with 11. dxe6 =. Instead 11. Qd2 (+0.36 @ 21 depth) maintains the tension with a slight edge for the first player.

Oct-08-16  nalinw: I went with

14 .... Qh4 too. The point of
14 .... Nf4 is to prevent f4 I suppose.

White was able to bring almost all his pieces to the defense but Tartakower won anyway!

Oct-08-16  diagonalley: the inimitable dr t at his very best! ... (i think most would play the exchange sacrifice as a matter of principle... but the follow-up is just breathtaking)
Oct-08-16  YouRang: Saturday 13...?

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Well, I notice that most of white's pieces are piled up on the queenside, with mainly the Nf3 guarding the king (and it is keeping black's queen away). These observations make <13...Rxf3> an interesting try, expecting <14.gxf3>

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Here (following the "monkey see check, monkey give check" principle), I opted for <14...Qg5+>

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Black has to move his king left or right, and either way I will follow with ...Nf4, which threatens mate.

In the case of <15.Kf1 Nf4>, the N nicely seals off escape via f2, so black has to move the rook, and it looks like white loses at least the exchange:

- 16.Re3 Bd4
- 16.Red1? Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Ng2+ 18.Ke2 Bh6#).

If instead <15.Kh1 Nf4 16.Rg1>, it's a little harder to see progress.

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Perhaps <16...Qh5> threatening to pile up on Pf3 with Ne5.


Looking at the game, I see that my line wasn't quite the computer favorite, but it was decent enough.

Oct-08-16  AlicesKnight: The basic attack ...Rxf3 with Q/N attack was not too hard to see but the continuation was less clear. The f4 blockade of White's Ps prevents easy access for defence instructively. <YouRang> <- 16.Red1? Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Ng2+....> is prevented by the Q blocking g2, surely?
Oct-08-16  mel gibson: Nice game - I saw the first move within 5 seconds & there was always a follow up check from the Queen & it looked promising.
Oct-08-16  YouRang: <AlicesKnight><<YouRang> <- 16.Red1? Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Ng2+....> is prevented by the Q blocking g2, surely?>

It would seem that I left out a move and made a typo. Deciphering my actual intent is a Sunday puzzle. :-)

Following 13...Rxf3 14.gxf3 Qg5+ 15.Kf1 Nf4, I think I had <16.Red1 Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Qxf3 18.Be2 Ng2+ 19.Kd1 Bh6#>

Checking this with the computer, this line actually isn't best for either black or white.

Following 16.Red1, the computer recommends 16...Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Ne5 18.Kd2 Nfxd3 19.f4 Qxf2+ 20.Ne2 Nxf4 21.Kc1 Nxe2+

Oct-08-16  gofer: The first move is obvious. It screams to be played. But after that the continuation is really not clear to me, black has so many attacking moves and so many pieces that come into those attacks that I have just looked at the most forcing line to allow me to at least get three or four moves into the continuation...

<13 ... Rxf3>
<14 gxf3 ...>

Now we have a selection of moves to choose from; Nf4, Ne5, Qf6, Qg5+ Qh4 and Bd4. But only one threatens mate immediately...

<14 ... Nf4>

The king must move and losing Ph2 is just losing slowly and painfully, so really white only has one choice...

<15 Kh1 Nd5>

Okay, we are three moves into the combination and already black's control of the board and white's lack of it are creating issues.

White threatens Nxf3 gaining control of the a8-h1 diagonal, which white simply cannot allow, black also threatens to win Bd3 which is now attacked twice. White only has two solutions and Re3 gives back the exchange far too easily.

<16 Be2 Qh4>
<17 Rg1 Rf8>

Hmmm, okay this all looks fine for black, but not for white, but in reality I am still no further forward with this one than I was at the start.


Okay, I didn't even get white's second move right... ...not a good sign!

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  perfidious: <PB....White's development leaves a bit to be disired.>

<PB> is obviously of English extraction (laughs), though knowing his playing tendencies, he would have had no hesitation whatever in playing ....Rxf3 either.

Oct-08-16  Gregor Fenrir: After <13...Rxf3 14 gf3> I went for overloading white pawns: <14... Qg5+ 15 Kh1 Qf4 16 Kg2 (16 Be2?? Be5 17 Kg1 Qxh2+ 18 Kf1 Qh1#) Rf8 17 Be2 Ne5> (three pieces are attcking a pawn on f3) <18 Qd1 Ng4! 19 Rh1 Bd4> and white is unable to defend a pawn on f2.
Oct-08-16  RandomVisitor: After 13...Rxf3 14.gxf3

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-4.69/32 14...Qh4 15.Re3 Rf8 16.Bf1 Be5 17.f4 Qxf4 18.Rh3 Bd4 19.Bg2 Qxf2+ 20.Qxf2 Rxf2 21.Ne2 Rxe2+ 22.Bxd4 cxd4 23.Bf3 Rc2 24.Bd1 Rb2 25.Bxh5 gxh5 26.Rg3+ Kh8 27.Rd1 e5 28.Rf1 Bxe4 29.Rf7 Bc6 30.h4 Rxa2 31.Kf1 Ra1+ 32.Ke2 Rh1 33.Rgg7 Nf8 34.Rxa7 Rxh4 35.Rgc7 Be4 36.Rc8 Kg8 37.Rd8 Rh3 38.Ra3 Rh2+ 39.Ke1 h4 40.Rxd6 Rb2 41.Rxb6

-3.89/32 14...Qg5+ 15.Kh1 Qf4 16.Rg1 Qxf3+ 17.Rg2 Nf4 18.Bf1 Rf8 19.Re1 Nxg2 20.Bxg2 Qxf2 21.Re2 Qh4 22.Nd1 Bd4 23.Qd2 Qh5 24.Bxd4 cxd4 25.Kg1 Ne5 26.Nf2 Nf3+ 27.Bxf3 Qxf3 28.Qd3 Qf6 29.Qh3 e5 30.Nd3 Qf3 31.Qxf3 Rxf3 32.Nf2 h5 33.Kg2 Rf4 34.Re1 Kg7 35.Rd1 Kf6 36.b4 Ke6 37.Rd3 Bc6

-3.72/32 14...Be5 15.f4 Nxf4 16.Re3 Qh4 17.Rg3 Nf6 18.Bc1 Ng4 19.Bxf4 Bxf4 20.f3 Ne3 21.Qf2 Qf6 22.Rc1 Nxc4 23.Re1 Ne5 24.Be2 d5 25.exd5 exd5 26.Rf1 d4 27.Ne4 Qe7 28.Qe1 Bxg3 29.hxg3 Bxe4 30.fxe4 d3 31.Bd1 Rd8 32.Qe3 Rd4 33.Rf2 Nf7 34.Bf3 Qg5 35.Qf4 Qxf4 36.gxf4 d2 37.Bd1 Nd6

Oct-08-16  YouRang: <gofer><Okay, I didn't even get white's second move right... ...not a good sign!>

If by "white's second move", you mean Kh1 (i.e. 13...Rxf3 14.gxf3 Nf4 15.Kh1), then you actually did better than Tartakower.

According to the engines, your 15.Kh1 is better than his 14.Bf1 by about half a pawn. Your whole line after that was solid too.

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  agb2002: Both sides keep full material except one pawn.

Black can weaken the white castle at the cost of an exchange, 13... Rxf3 14.gxf3 Qg5+:

A) 15.Kf1 Nf4

A.1) 16.Reb1 Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Qxf3

A.1.a) 18.Be2 Nxe2 (18... Ng2+ looks also very good) 19.Nxe2 (19.Qxe2 Bxc3+ wins decisive material) 19... Bxe4 and Black seems to end up two pawns ahead at least.

A.1.b) 18.Bf1 Ne5 19.Rd1 (due to Nfd3+ followed by Bh6 or Nxb2) 19... Qh1 (threatens Nf3#; 19... Qxc3+ 20.Bxc3 Nf3# would be a beatiful end but White has 20.Qxc3) and Black will have at least two pans for the exchange and attack. For example, 20.Kd2 Bh6 21.Kc1 Ne2+ 22.Kb1 Nd4 traps the White queen.

A.1.c) 18.Rd1 Ng2+ 19.Kf1 (19.Kd2 Bh6#) 19... Ne3+ 20.Ke1 (20.Kg1 Qg2#) 20... Nxc2+ wins.

A.2) 16.Rd1 Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Qxf3 looks similar to the above lines.

A.3) 16.Re3 Qg2+ 17.Ke1 Qg1+

A.3.a) 18.Bf1 Ng2+ wins a pawn at least.

A.3.b) 18.Kd2 Qxf2+ followed by Bh6 looks very good for Black.

B) 15.Kh1 Qf4

B.1) 16.Ne2 Qxf3+ 17.Kg1 Bxb2 18.Qxb2 Qxd3 - + [B+N+P vs R].

B.2) 16.B(Q)e2 Be5 17.Kg1(2) Qxh2+ 18.Kf1 Qh1#.

B.3) 16.Rg1 Qxf3+ 17.Rg2 Nf4 18.Bf1 (due to Qxg2# and N(Q)xd3) 18... Rf8 looks very good for Black (emerges a pawn ahead after Nxg2 and has the better position).


That's all I can do today.

Oct-08-16  BOSTER: Looking at the pos after 23...Nf3

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it is very puzzling how Tartakower'd forecast Fischer Random Chess.

Oct-08-16  stst: One possible development:
14.gxR Qg5+
15.Kf1 Nf4
16.Re3 Qg2+
17.Ke1 Qg1+
18.Kd2 Qxf2+
19.Be2 BxN+
20.BxB Ne5
21.BxN dxB
22.Rf1 Rd8+
23.Kc1 QxR(e3)+
24.Kb2 Rd2 pinning Q&K ====> WQ lost

see how different...

Oct-08-16  stst: Tata chose Nf4 first, before Qg5... and also White chose to hide his K to the h-file, rather to the Q-side. Yet the main vein prevails, esp. later Ne5 and making use of the N-Q couple. The finishing touch is rather elegant!!
IF 26.QxN Rf1+
27.Kg2 Qe2+
28.Kg3/h4 Qf3/Rh1+ will finish it off.
Oct-08-16  Anjeneyar: If 26. Qxh2. Rxf1+
27. Kg2. Qf3#!
Oct-13-16  Moszkowski012273: 14...Nf4 is a bit slow. The immediate 14...Qg5+ 15.Kh1,Qf4 is a bit stronger.

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