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Aron Nimzowitsch vs Frank Marshall
Bad Kissingen (1928), Bad Kissingen GER, rd 7, Aug-18
Indian Game: Saemisch-Indian (A50)  ·  0-1

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Sep-29-03  fred lennox: Restrain, blockade, control open file, adroit knight moves, attack! with a double pawn move to round it off. It would be a classic Nimzo if he was black. Marshal must of took keen delight in this victory.
Apr-28-04  LIFE Master AJ: This is a great game ... I have deeply annotated it on my "Marshall Web Page." Go here, (http://www.angelfire.com/games4/lif...); and then scroll down and look for the link to Marshall.

This is a GREAT game ... in fact I believe it won FIRST brilliancy prize.

Apr-29-04
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  Chessical: <LIFE Master AJ> It did win the First Brilliancy Prize.

Marshall's N sacrifice especially deserved the prize, as its brilliance had to compensate for Nimzowitsch's very careless opening; <9.e5> is shameful for a player of his ability.

Another Marshall prize victory against the same opponent is London 1927, which Marshall regarded as a pendant to this game. This is not yet in the database so I will submit it.

Apr-29-04  Lawrence: <Chessical>, wuzzamadda with <8.e5>, (not 9), Fritz wouldn't play anything else for all the tea in China, and Junior thinks it's the best move for about 5 minutes (but then prefers 9.Bxf6 and 9.Rd1). Or are you referring to <9.Bg3>?
Apr-29-04
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  Chessical: <Lawrence> Apologies for the typo on the move number. With due repect for computer programs, I consider that <8.e5> is a positional mistake. Nimzowitsch's centre is disrupted, and it allows the manoeuvre Nd5-b4 which he appears to have underestimated. I would suggest a Saemisch-like <8.f3> as one possible alternative.
Apr-30-04  Lawrence: <Chessical>, in <AJ>'s massive analysis of this game (see his link above) he gives 8.f3 a !? but thinks the best bet is probably 8.Nf3.
Apr-30-04  LIFE Master AJ: <Reply, everyone>
The game is very interesting ... please see my analysis on the link given above. I am also interested in opinions, be sure to e-mail me! (Get my address of my web site, the rules of this server prohibit me from posting it here.)
Apr-30-04  ughaibu: LIFEĀ MasterĀ AJ: Plenty of members have posted their e-mail addresses on this site.
May-04-04  LIFE Master AJ: <ughaibu>
Hmmm, I did it and got blasted for it! (My e-mail is easily found on any of my web sites.)

---> Just trying to stay out of trouble ... and keep my nose clean! :)

May-05-04  Whitehat1963: Ouch, what a butt kickin'!
May-05-04  LIFE Master AJ: <Reply to Wh1963> Yuppers. :)
Oct-30-05  bishopawn: The other day, in these columns, someone was talking about the contributions that Nimzovitch and (I think) Lasker made to opening theory. Didn't Marshall make great contributions to openingology as well?
Oct-30-05  aw1988: Computers are horrible at moves like e5. A 1600 can tell it's bad, a 3000 computer has no clue. Hilarious.
Oct-30-05
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  Bishoprick: Don't know about Lasker's opening contribution, but the Marshall Attack in the Spanish is Frank Marshall's greatest gift to opening theory, and we are all grateful to him for that.
Jan-10-06  LIFE Master AJ: Actually Marshall made dozens of contributions to opening theory.

# 1.) He was the first top-level player to repeatedly use the Petroff and show the correct path in many variations.

# 2.) He analyzed many different openings. (Like the Slav Defense, most people don't know there is a "Marshall Gambit" in that system as well.)

# 3.) He analyzed many double-KP games, the Marshall Gambit (to the Ruy Lopez) being perhaps his best known contribution to opening chess theory.

Jan-10-06  FHBradley: Why would a player like Marshall play Petroff (I don't doubt that he did, of course)? It's generally regarded as one of the most boring openings, i.e., a reliable "weapon", if one wants to pursue a draw, and that wasn't the way Marshall used to play.
Jan-10-06  Whitehat1963: Am I right in assuming that if:

1) 25. Kxc5, Rd5+, losing the queen; and

2) 25. Qxc5, Qb2#

There aren't any other possibilities, are there?

Jan-10-06  Jack Kerouac: Isn't it time we impeached the king?
Jan-11-06  LIFE Master AJ: Today the Petroff is seen as extremely dull and a draw, back then it was considered unreliable by the experts.

I agree that the Petroff was an unusual choice for Marshall, and really did not match his highly agressive and tactical style. (Since he is not here, we can only speculate as to why he chose this opening, but back then the Sicilian had no real adherents at the highest level ... so maybe he did not have a lot of options.)

Jan-11-06
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  chancho: <Why would a player like Marshall play Petroff >

Harry N Pillsbury also played it.

Jan-11-06
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  keypusher: For Marshall it was a good counterattacking defense.

Janowski vs Marshall, 1912

He complained that Lasker took all the fun out of it with Qe2.

Lasker vs Marshall, 1914

Jan-11-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <Whitehat1963> If 26.Qxc5 Qxb2+ does not mate because 27.Kxc4. But checkmate comes a move later with 27...Ra4#.
Jan-12-06  LIFE Master AJ: This could be one of Marshall's best games.

# 1.) It comes against a 'name' opponent, and not some small-fry.

# 2.) For many years, the computer was almost completely useless in analyzing such a game.

# 3.) The brevity and strength of Black's attack cannot be questioned.

Comments?

Jan-12-06
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  chancho: Another Marshall demolition of Nimzowitsch.

Marshall vs Nimzowitsch, 1930

Jan-12-06
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  AgentRgent: In Nimzowitsch's defense: Nimzowitsch vs Marshall, 1912
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