Jul-04-16 | | 1971: A clinical handling of a classic structure and the sub idea a5-Nc5. Rubinstein should be getting a lot more credit for his influence on Capablanca's play. He's an all time great player and master of the "simple" style of chess. |
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Jul-04-16 | | 1971: The idea 15. Qb1 is an underutilized maneuver that can be used in some QGD and Nimzo positions. Putting a heavy piece on the b,c, and d files, one way to do it is Rac1-c2, Qb1, Rfc1. Obviously should be used with a specific idea in mind (minority break) or the Queen can find itself out of play. Although in these positions, the Queen's presence isn't usually felt until later in games, or is exchanged early, going into an endgame that magnifies White's structural advantage. |
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Jul-04-16 | | RookFile: I'm sure that Capa was impressed with Rubinstein's play, but the part where Rubinstein influenced Capa would probably involve Capa opening a chess book - which he didn't do. |
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Jul-04-16 | | 1971: That's absurd, naive and foolish. Not to mention, poorly thought out. Capablanca has studied his predecessors in detail. Why talk if you're not knowledgeable on the subject. Wisdom is knowing what you don't know. |
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Jul-04-16 | | RookFile: Well, trace it through for us. Show us where Capa was taking notes from Rubinstein. Was it in 1901 for example? You'll remember, Capa was doing something boring then like beating Juan Corzo in a match. Meanwhile, Rubinstein didn't even get serious with his career until the following year. Are you sure Rubinstein wasn't playing over Capa's games and learning from him? |
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Jul-04-16 | | 1971: Ok this is much better, I'll get back to you when I have time to research. |
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Jul-05-16 | | RookFile: Capa is also waiting with baited breath and fervent longing. |
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Sep-07-20 | | iron john: what if 32...bd6 ? |
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Sep-07-20
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Jun-25-21 | | Zahodjakin: 5 years later, still no research showing up, and there's a reason for that, Capablanca stands on his own. I doubt anyone influenced him early in his career. He may have been influenced by the Hypermoderns later though, but not enough for a total style upheaval. |
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Jun-25-21
 | | keypusher: Capa definitely opened chess books, if only to say how lousy they were and that they'd been a bad influence on him. Also he said something about studying 1,000 endings, which I assume he found in books. He also wrote a few books himself, so he probably didn't think they were useless! Agree with RookFile that the timing doesn't really work for Rubinstein to be a formative influence, but I'm sure JRC paid attention to his games after 1907 or so (when Rubinstein got really famous). My impression is that Capa basically copied much of Lasker's opening repertoire early in his career, but he wouldn't have needed many books for that. Jose Raul Capablanca (kibitz #5637) |
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