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Jun-08-07
 | | beatgiant: <RandomVisitor>
On the suggested 15. Rhf1 playing for f5, Black can restrain it by counter-attacks with ...Rde8.For example, 15. Rhf1 Rde8 (now if f5, e3 is attacked) 16. Bd2 Qd7 (e2 is attacked) 17. Ng1 h5 (now if f5, Black has ...h4). What does your engine say about 15. Rhf1 <Rde8>? |
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| Jun-09-07 | | RandomVisitor: <beatgiant>After 15.Rhf1 Rde8 1: William Winter - Alexander Alekhine, Nottingham 1936
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.1 mp :
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1. = (0.00): 16.f5 gxf5 17.h3 Qg6 18.Bf4 Bxf4+ 19.Nxf4 Qg5 20.h4 Qg4 21.Ngh5 Qxh4 22.Rf3 Rd8 2. = (-0.09): 16.Bd2 Qd7 17.f5 h5 18.fxg6 fxg6 19.Nf4 h4 20.Nge2 Rhf8 21.Rde1 Rf6 22.Ng1 Ref8 3. = (-0.13): 16.Rde1 Qd7 17.f5 Nxf5 18.Nxf5 gxf5 19.Bf4 Bxf4+ 20.Nxf4 Re4 21.Qh3 b6 22.Nd3 Ne7 |
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Jun-09-07
| | beatgiant: <RandomVisitor>
Interesting, so after 15. Rhf1 Rde8, White can play f5 anyway, sacrificing the f-pawn.I'd think after 16. f5, Black replies <16...Bxg3> 17. Nxg3 gxf5, leaving White unable to trade off the "bad" bishop. To me, it looks like Black's a pawn up in a slightly better position. What say you, or you and your engine? |
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| Jun-09-07 | | RandomVisitor: William Winter was born on the 11th of September 1898 in Medstead, England. He was the nephew of Sir James M. Barrie (the creator of Peter Pan). |
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| Jun-09-07 | | RandomVisitor: After 15. Rhf1 Rde8 16. f5 Bxg3 17. Nxg3 gxf5 18.Rde1 Black's shattered kingside is compensation for the pawn:
1: William Winter - Alexander Alekhine, Nottingham 1936
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.1 mp :
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1. (0.35): 18...b6 19.Qc2 Rhg8 20.Re2 Rg6 21.Rf4 Qg5 22.Rxf5 Qh4 23.Bg1 Rf8 24.Rh5 Qf6 2. (0.42): 18...Qg6 19.Qc2 Rhg8 20.Re2 Kb8 21.Nxf5 Nc8 22.h3 h5 23.Rf3 Qe6 |
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Jun-09-07
| | beatgiant: <RandomVisitor>
On 15. Rhf1 Rde8 16. f5 Bxg3 17. Nxg3 gxf5 18. Rde1, then probably something like 18...Qh4 19. Nxf5 Qxh2. Sure, White has some compensation for a pawn and may hold, but I don't think this line is so clearly better than the game's 15. h3. |
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| Jun-09-07 | | Gilmoy: 5.Ne2 is book? It invites Qh4, which lets Black rapidly castle Q-side. c3-Nd2 looks overcautious -- by move 12 White is congested, and Black has the space advantage. White's Spanish-like N tour Nf1-g3 seems out of place against a Kc8 -- with strong Black pawns on d5/g6, this N had no prospects on g3 anyways. Alekhine craftily rubs it in with 16.. h5 17.. h4 to cramp White tremendously. Note how White already spent 3 tempi getting the N there, so Black can afford to return 1 tempo to poke it. Then White compounds his congestion by spending 1 more tempo to retreat his *other* N. Considering that White ends up with Ns on e2 and g4, he could have gotten there more directly with 17.<other> 18.Nh1 19.Nf2 20.Ng4 22.<other>. Those 2 lost tempi were the 2nd Rook in Alekhine's Gun. After 18.Ne2 not only does this N have no life -- more punishment for his 6.c3 14.f4 -- but it also blocks e, preventing White from challenging the Gun buildup -- and then it even becomes the Gun's target. Deer in the headlights. Kind of like Ivanovic wilting against Henin/spotlight/big stage (at the French Open '07). |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Pragmatist: 5.Ne2 is probably white's best move. 6.c3 was the lemon. Here is the logic: If black wants to put his queen on h4, he also needs his bishop on d6 to prevent white from playing Bf4. Therefore the ideal development for black (if he wants the queen on h4) is Bd6, Qh4, Nge7. Notice that the knight must be moved last because otherwise it either blocks the bishop or the queen or both. The key for white is to force the knight to move to e7 before black can play both Bd6 and Qh4. White does this by attacking black's d-pawn with the very natural move Nbc3. So we have 5.Ne2 Bd6 6.Nbc3 Now 6...Qh4 just loses the d-pawn to 7.Nxd5. If black plays 6...Be6 to defend d5 and leave the diagonal open for his queen, then his queen-bishop is passively placed since e6 is not an active place for it. This leaves 6...Nge7 or 6...Nb4. All three of these moves 6...Nge7 6...Nb4 6...Be6 are all dealing the how to defend the d5-pawn. The most natural, and probably best, move is 6...Nge7. In that case we have a symmetrical position and symmetrical positions usually favor white because he gets to move first. So white should keep a slight edge with 5.Ne2 combined with 6.Nbc3 The poor opening move was 6.c3?! |
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| Dec-19-07 | | notyetagm: What a tremendous game by Alekhine. |
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| Oct-11-12 | | darshandatta: This game deserves to be GOTD |
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| Oct-11-12 | | cunctatorg: Terror, absolute Terror... |
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| Oct-11-12 | | whiteshark: Here's the original/1st game with <Alekhine's gun>: Alekhine vs Nimzowitsch, 1930 |
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| Nov-13-12 | | kia0708: the so-called Alekhine's Gun is so cool, it should be called the Big Punisher :-) |
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| Nov-13-12 | | kellmano: <kia0708: the so-called Alekhine's Gun is so cool, it should be called the Big Punisher :-)> Great comment sir. When I'm playing I often try to get Alekhine's gun on the board just because of it's name. Next time I play someone I will call it the big punisher in the post-mortem. Even if I lose |
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| Feb-08-14 | | morfishine: Alekhine played like a machine...gun |
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| Aug-23-14 | | morfishine: Winter was a seasoned opponent |
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| Aug-23-14 | | Ratt Boy: Yuck. The pun depends on a terrible butchering of Alekhine's name. It's not pronounced "AL-ek-hine." It's pronounced "Al-YOKH-een." Game's pretty good, though. The great champion builds up an advantage, then breaks through with blistering, unanswerable combinations. |
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| Aug-23-14 | | greenfield67: I think I read somewhere that Alekhine pronounced his name Al-YEKH-een, despite the "correct" Russian pronunciation being as <Ratt Boy> indicates. Not that this helps with the pun. |
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Aug-23-14
 | | kevin86: A big win for Alekhine! |
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Aug-23-14
 | | Fusilli: <notyetagm> ... <In his game notes Alekhine said that 14 f4?!, weakening these e-file squares, was virtually the losing move.> Seeing that Alekhine said this made my day! Because it's what I thought after playing through the game. 14.f4 will make white miss his white-squared bishop and wish he had that bishop instead of the one still on the board, which automatically becomes weak after this pawn advance. |
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| Aug-23-14 | | Strelets: <Ratt Boy> The problem stems from two related letters in the Russian version of the Cyrillic alphabet. Ее is pronounced 'ye,' and is used in the Russian spelling of Alekhine's surname, Алехин. There is another letter that looks very similar, Ёё, pronounced 'yo.' The trouble is that people tend to both write and type yo as ye, which leads to confusing situations where a person might have a Soviet birth certificate that spells their name with a e (ye) but a Russian passport, driver's license, or marriage certificate that uses a ë (yo). The two letters are frequently treated as the same for sorting or alphabetization and confusing them is one of the very few spelling mistakes that professors or teachers of Russian as a foreign language will actually permit (since native speakers do it so often). The official position of the Russian Language Institute is that ë should be used in proper nouns, but using e isn't considered incorrect. According to Hans Kmoch, Alekhine did not like being called "Alyokhin." |
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| Aug-23-14 | | kelu: Winter sleep |
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| Aug-23-14 | | posoo: LOL strelets. DAT is how u disMANTEL someone who dos not know how to take a JOKE! "YUCK" says rattboy but he just got linguistically ROALED. |
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| Aug-08-16 | | j4jishnu: Let's call it "The Hibernation Game" |
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Aug-27-17
 | | plang: 6..Qh4 preventing the simplifying Bf4 was a new move which has stood the test of time. 11 Nfg3 preventing the exhange of light-squared bishops looks like an improvement. Worth considering was the pawn sacrifice 15 f5!? which would have at least given White more activity. After 16..h5! 17 f5 could have been answered by 17..h4 18 f6 Ng8 19 Nh1..Re8 and the f-pawn will fall. Perhaps 18 Nh1 would have been an improvement not obstructing the e-file. 26 b3? did not slow Black down; Uhlmann recommended 26 Nc1..Nc4 27 Rxe6..Rxe6 28 Qxd5..Nxb2+ 29 Kc2..Na4 with a positional advantage for Black. |
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