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Sep-28-16
 | | diceman: <A.T PhoneHome: Game 21 of Fischer-Spassky (1972) match in progress:> I've seen so many photos labeled wrong.
Do we really know that's Game 21? |
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Sep-29-16
 | | keypusher: <diceman>
I suspect it is from game #1, as this picture apparently is. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4XDqL6R1GJk/... Wouldn't Spassky's chair be different? |
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Sep-29-16
| | diceman: <keypusher: <diceman> I suspect it is from game #1, as this picture apparently is.> Well this is Game 1 video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5r...
Spassky's chair looks beige,
Fischer's suit looks blue.
(vs dark maroon)
Of course, I know this one is true because I can see the pcs. That increases the probablity by one black Game that it's not game 1, and
"possibly" Game 21.
By the way, it's funny how Spassky lazily tips the King and
slides it over to trap the Bishop. |
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Sep-29-16
| | keypusher: <Well this is Game 1 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5r...
Spassky's chair looks beige,
Fischer's suit looks blue.
(vs dark maroon)>
thanks, i stand corrected. |
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Sep-29-16
 | | Flemming: Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886 The position after 10th move is almost identical to 2nd game of WTM Steinitz vs. Zukertort 1886. |
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Oct-16-16
 | | ZonszeinP: Hello,
Game which black also won
And which probably Fischer knew |
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| May-05-17 | | Helios727: What happens after 41. Bd7 Kg4 42. Bc6 Kxf5 43. Kg3 ? |
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| Dec-06-17 | | Howard: As I recall, Timman stated in a late-2001 issue of NIC that Spassky would have drawn if he'd sealed 41.Kh3, plus he also pointed out a mistake that Fischer had made 1-2 moves earlier which would have given him the win. Remind me to dig up that issue tonight--I'm not home right now. At any rate, fans will recall that at the closing banquet, Fischer had told Spassky that the adjourned position was completely lost for Spassky regardless of what move he'd sealed. Looks like Bobby was wrong on that one! |
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| Dec-07-17 | | Howard: Yes, Timman stated that 41.Kh3 WOULD have drawn. |
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| Dec-15-17 | | GT3RS: Black is +1.91 in the final position. He might have won or at least drawn. Pretty sure if it was Fischer playing black he would've continued playing. |
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| Dec-15-17 | | GT3RS: On another note: This game is fascinating to be honest. Fischer had black in Game 1 like Spassky in this game. Spassky played 20.Bxh2 (the move Fischer played in Game 1 - one of the reasons he lost). In this game the move equalizes white's slightly inferior position. In the end he ends up losing. Great ending to the match. |
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Dec-19-17
 | | Clement Fraud: This is one of the games that makes me suspicious about Spassky's motivations - ie., whether or not he truly wanted to retain his title against Fischer in '72: 10.Nxc6 is a move that most proficient club players would reject. It was Fischer himself who demonstrated (in the year prior to this) how to tackle black's center in this line of the Paulsen... and he gave Petrosian a beating in the process! Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971 |
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Dec-19-17
| | keypusher: <Clement Fraud> This game and Fischer-Petrosian diverged on move 5, so I have no idea what you mean by "this line of the Paulsen" -- the openings are completely different. And Fischer's 5.Bd3 and Spassky's 5.Nc3 appear to be about equally popular, so <if Fischer demonstrated...how to tackle Black's center> the lesson didn't take. On the black side, neither Petrosian's nor Fischer's continuations seem to have found much support. |
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Dec-19-17
| | Clement Fraud: A good very good evening,
I was referring to the concept of swapping Knight's in a way that strengthens black's center: The way that Fischer did this (as white against Petrosian in 71) turned out well as he hadn't yet developed his QN to c3 (thus having ready his c pawn to take control at c4 - which completely neutralized Petrosian's greater number of center pawns). In this game, Spassky's swap of Knight's merely removed black's only structural weakness - his isolated QP.Perhaps I was lax in referring to both games as being the Paulsen variation - but the Taimanov, Kan & Paulsen variations very often transpose into each other after ten or so moves. |
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| Oct-15-18 | | RookFile: 10. h3 was a playable alternative to 10. Nxc6. 10. h3 0-0 11. Qd2 Re8 12. Rad1 etc. |
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Oct-15-18
 | | harrylime: Bobby gave Boris a two game head start ... and still won EASILY. After the shock defeat in the 11th , Bobby kinda coasted .... Bobby HAD been the BEST player in the world long before this match and it was a monumental achievement over throwing the SOVIET EMPIRE of Chess ... Something now which can easily be dismissed .But he was on his own. The Soviets ganged up on him and he knew this.
The Cure - Pictures Of You
https://youtu.be/UmFFTkjs-O0 |
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Oct-15-18
| | harrylime: Bobby was the start of glasnost and perestroika long before it actually happened. Fischer broke the Soviet stranglehold on Chess.
Fischer was the birth of "modern" chess as we know it. |
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| Oct-22-18 | | Howard: 40...Kg4! would have given Fischer a fairly simple win, as at least two sources point out. |
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| Jan-03-19 | | Helios727: How does Black win if 41... Kg4 42. Bc6 h4 43. Bf3+ ? |
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Jan-03-19
| | diceman: <Helios727:
How does Black win if 41... Kg4 42. Bc6 h4 43. Bf3+ ?> <1) -13.52 (38 ply)
43...Kxf5 44.Bc6 Kg4 45.b4 Rb2 46.b5 h3+ 47.Kf1 Rb1+ 48.Ke2 h2 49.Kd3 Rb3+ 50.Ke2 Kf4 51.Bg2 Rb2+ 52.Ke1 Rb1+ 53.Kd2 Rg1 54.Bb7 Rf1 55.Kc3 Rxf2 56.Bh1 Rf1 57.Bg2 Rf3+ 58.Kb4 Kg3 59.Bh1 Rf1 60.Bc6 Rf3 61.Ka5 h1=Q 62.Ka6 Qd1 63.b6 Qd4 64.a5 Re3 65.Bh1 Re5 66.Ka7 Rxa5+ 67.Kb7 Qd7+ 68.Kb8> |
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| Feb-26-19 | | DrGridlock: <offramp: Why not 27...Rxf2?> <iron maiden: <offramp> Black doesn't have time for 27...Rxf2, because after 28. a5 Ra2 29. a6 Kf8 30. b4 Ra4 31. b5 the pawns will promote whether or not he takes the bishop.> Yes, this is how the position was analyzed for years. As another poster points out, it is now known that 27 ... Rxf2 is indeed the best continuation for black. The key is not to get the rook behind the a-pawn too early. After 28 a5, both 28 ... Kf8 and 28 ... Rb2 are better for black than the suggested 28 ... Ra2. For example, after 28 ... Kf8 29 a6 Rb2
Boris Spassky - Robert James Fischer
click for larger viewNeither the a-pawn nor the b-pawn can advance. Fairly non-intuitive, since one wants as black to put his rook on the a-file to slow down the a-pawn. It turns out that it's more important to slow down the b-pawn from advancing and getting to b5 to support his "little buddy." |
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Aug-12-19
 | | Calli: After 11 moves, the game reaches the same position as Wemmers vs Paulsen, 1878 ! |
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Aug-12-19
| | harrylime: Bobby cruising to what he wanted ...
He backed off the gas in the latter part of this match . Havin given Boris a TWO game free start . |
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| Oct-22-19 | | The Boomerang: harrylime: Bobby cruising to what he wanted ...
He backed off the gas in the latter part of this match .
Havin given Boris a TWO game free start ."
Or was it Spassky playing at a better level games 11-21? |
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| May-27-20 | | jeffboka: Howard: Stockfish shows a Fischer win even with 40. K-h3 with 40. ... RxBP, and so on, so Fischer was right, Timman was mistaken. |
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