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Nigel Davies vs Christopher Duncan
BCF-ch (1999), Scarborough ENG, rd 9, Aug-11
English Opening: King's English. Taimanov Variation (A25)  ·  1-0

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May-08-05  Mating Net: 27. White to play and win makes for a nice puzzle.

Whenever the King and the heavy pieces are all on the same color square, it is an open invitation for a Knight fork. White graciously accepted.

Nov-14-07  Manic: I saw the line played in the game, but I thought 28.Nf6+! is better than 28.Qxd7, because it gives white queen for two minors.
Nov-14-07  Vanish Doom: I saw the same thing as Manic. I agree 28. Nf6+ is better.
Nov-14-07  Peter Nemenyi: A nice key move, but 28. Nf6+! looks more decisive than what White actually played as a follow-up.
Nov-14-07  TheIrateTurk: I'm not having much luck this week. :(
Nov-14-07  beginner64: I came up with same exact solution as played, but now when I read <Manic> and <Vanish Doom>'s comments, I agree 28 Nf6+ is better.
Nov-14-07  vibes43: I got moves 27 after a lot of searching and was still undecided on which way to go on 28. Good puzzle.
Nov-14-07  mkrk17: White goes up the exchange by playing Ne5 dxe5, Qxd7 Rxd7, Nf6+ K~, Nxd7. Not sure if black needed to resign there. I am sure at lower levels, people will continue to play on.

Like chessmoron says, if you see Nf6, then you will strive to get a solution to make it work. Although it did take me around 3 minutes to figure it out.

Nov-14-07  HelaNubo: Like others, I found the line 27. Ne5 fxe5 28. Nf6+!. (BTW, of course anything is better than 27... fxe5.) A quick evaluation by Fritz 10 confirms that:

1. (6.62): 28.Nf6+ Rxf6 29.Qxd7 Rf7 30.Qd3 e4 31.Rxe4 Ref8 32.Rd4 b6 33.axb6

2. (4.05): 28.Qxd7 Rxd7 29.Nf6+ Kf7 30.Nxd7 exf4 31.Rxf4+ Nf5 32.Rxe8 Kxe8 33.Ne5 Ncd6 34.Nxg6 Ne3 35.c5

But Davies would reply: a point is a point anyway.

Nov-14-07  notyetagm: <Mating Net: 27. White to play and win makes for a nice puzzle. Whenever the King and the heavy pieces are all on the same color square, it is an open invitation for a Knight fork. White graciously accepted.>

Yes, a very good point and the first thing I noticed when I solved the puzzle.

White has the those two <LIGHT-SQUARED KNIGHTS> on e4 and f3. Black has -all- of his heavy pieces on light squares: d7-queen, f7-rook, e8-rook, g8-king. A <KNIGHT FORK> in the making.

Nov-14-07
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: This was a trifle hard for me because there were so many Knight forks to evaluate. Finally found the game continuation, but I agree with the other commentators that they found an even better line.
Nov-14-07  zealouspawn: While Nf6! was obviously the best move, I'm sure Davies saw the game continuation and didn't put any more thought into it... which is what I saw and didn't continue to look (though I applaud those of you who found Nf6). Plus, fritz does give a 4 pawn advantage after the game continuation.
Nov-14-07  notyetagm: <An Englishman: Good Evening: This was a trifle hard for me because there were so many Knight forks to evaluate. Finally found the game continuation, but I agree with the other commentators that they found an even better line.>

The logic of the combination is quite lovely.

The Black d6-pawn must <DEFEND> the e5-square to prevent the <KNIGHT FORK> ♘f3-e5, which means that Black cannot <DEPEND> up on his d6-pawn to <BLOCK> the d-file to meet the threat of ♕d2x♕d7.

So how is Black meeting the threat of ♕d2x♕d7, which he must meet by either <BLOCKING> or <DEFENDING> since the White d2-queen is on an <OPEN LINE>? The task of preventing ♕d2x♕d7 falls to the Black f7-rook; the Black f7-rook must <DEFEND> the Black d7-queen to meet the threat of ♕d2x♕d7 since the Black d6-pawn does not <BLOCK> the d-file as it must <DEFEND> the e5-square as previously stated. Hence Black is meeting the threat of ♕d2x♕d7 by <DEFENDING> the d7-square with his f7-rook, not by <BLOCKING> the d-file with his d6-pawn.

But since the Black f7-rook <DEFENDS> the Black d7-queen, it cannot also <DEFEND> the f6-square to prevent the <ROYAL FORK> ♘e4-f6+.

So the problem basically boils down to exploiting the <OVERWORKED> Black f7-rook, which must <DEFEND> both the Black d7-queen -and- the f6-royal forking square.

Nov-14-07  notyetagm: <beginner64: I came up with same exact solution as played, but now when I read <Manic> and <Vanish Doom>'s comments, I agree 28 Nf6+ is better.>

Position after 27 ♘f3-e5! d6xe5:


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It is a question of whether it is stronger to <DEFLECT> the <OVERWORKED> Black f7-rook from f6 with 28 ♕d2x♕d7 or from d7 with 28 ♘e4-f6+. The latter is stronger.

Nov-14-07  arsen387: can any1 help me, please? I installed internet explorer7 and now I can't watch the chess games. instead of chess board I see a blank place.
Nov-14-07  dzechiel: White to move. Material even (where have all the bishops gone?). "Medium/Easy."

I like this one. It took me about a half minute to see the jumping knights in action.

At first I wanted to play 27 Nf6+, but black simply snaps it off with the rook. But if that same rook was holding the queen on the board, it wouldn't be able to make that capture.

So the line must go:

27 Ne5!

forking queen and rook. Black must move the queen and give up an exchange because if

27...dxe5 28 Nf6+

gets the queen for two knights. A pretty combination by Davies.

Nov-14-07  dzechiel: <arsen387: can any1 help me, please? I installed internet explorer7 and now I can't watch the chess games. instead of chess board I see a blank place.>

Go here:

http://www.java.com/en/

and download and install Java for IE7.

Nov-14-07  dzechiel: After 28 Nf6+ black can choose to take the knight with 28...Rxf6 at which point 29 Qxd7 is very good for white.

It's possible that black can just move the king instead (eg 28...Kh8). Now white can play 29 Qxd7 which transposes back into the game, or 29 Nxd7, but after 29...Rd8 white might have some problems with the desperado knight.

I think white has everything to gain and nothing to lose by playing 28 Nf6+ instead of the text.

Nov-14-07  willyfly: Material - dead even - no ♗s - right off the bat I see a nice family fork ♘f6+ if only Black's f7♖ could be coaxed off the f-file. The ♙ push f5 is reminiscent of last night's puzzle.

27 ♘f6+
27 f5
27 ♘fg5
27 ♘h4
27 ♘d4
27 ♕b2
27 ♕d4

These are moves I have considered to initiate combinations but I have found nothing promising. Black seems to have very good defenses. Maybe the solution is to offer a draw. <joke> So I give up. Gonna look now.

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Man! I'm really in a slump :-( Maybe I need a break from Chess.

Nov-14-07  arsen387: thanx <dzeichel> very much!!! You've just saved me from despair. Everything works fine now
Nov-14-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <<arsen387: can any1 help me, please? I installed internet explorer7 >

Well, you have already identified the problem (installing IE). Now you just need to ignore it, and use a better browser.

Firefox can be downloaded from: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefo...

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Nov-14-07  aussiedave: First posting. Just curious. Is there any reason white could not have played the same combination on move 25?
Nov-14-07  black knight c6: Because he doesn't have a knight on e4 to go to f6 on move 25?
Nov-14-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <aussiedave: First posting. Just curious. Is there any reason white could not have played the same combination on move 25?>

No, there isn't (the d5 knight can reach f6 just fine). White gets only an exchange (N for R) gain here, but 25.Ne5 would've been much better than 25.Nc3, where black has counterplay by 25...Nh5 (if 26.Ne4, then 26...Nf6 takes care of most of the threat).

Black's 25...Re8 was good, too, if only it was followed by 26...Qd8 or Rff8 instead of h6.

Oh, yes, <Manic> and others are perfectly correct -- 28.Nf6+! was the move to make...

Above analysis assisted by Hiarcs - prior to which I found just what got played in the game, but think I might have found 28.Nf6 OTB, once in position.

Nov-14-07  Samagonka: Got all the moves right within a minute. Maybe I've seen the game before or played something similar. No big deal, it's not a Sunday after all!
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