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Vladimir Kramnik vs Peter Svidler
Linares (1999), Linares ESP, rd 9, Mar-03
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Modern Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1-0

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Aug-28-04  Whitehat1963: Is this really so decisive?
Aug-28-04
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  Sneaky: I think the idea is this: There is nothing Black can do to prevent White from doubling his rooks on the a-file. Then he takes the a-pawn and reaches a technically won endgame. The rule of thumb is:

♕+♙ only draws ♖+♖,
♕+♙+♙ beats ♖+♖,
♖+♖+♙ beats ♕.

This is the reason why most people say that the ♕ is worth 9 points, and not 10.

It's a pity that these Super GM's don't play the game out more often just to help the fans learn about the techniques involved.

May-26-05  Gowe: The transition to the endgame RR+Q is forced and leaves Black no chances for counterplay. <28... Rxf7 29.Qxd7 Rxd7 30.Rxd7+ Kh6 31.Rxc7 Qd3 32.Kg1 Qd4 33.Rc2 1-0>

Analysis by Fritz:

<<(0.69): 28.Qc1 Qa5 29.Rfe1 Rxe1+ 30.Rxe1 Nf6 31.Bf3 a6 32.Qe3 Bb6

(0.66): 28.Rfe1 Rxe1+ 29.Qxe1 Nf6 30.Bf3 Bb6 31.Qe2 Qc5 32.Kg1 Qg5 (0.69): 28.Bc6 Ne5 29.Be4 Qa4 30.Bd5 Qh4 >>

Sep-17-05  Skylark: <It's a pity that these Super GM's don't play the game out more often just to help the fans learn about the techniques involved.>

Well, it's quite simple: For us, getting into an obviously lost position is miserable. It's just that "obviously" lost positions for these super grandmasters are not incredibly obvious for lesser mortals. Playing this out as Svidler would be miserable - I wouldn't want to spend an hour or more defending a lifeless position, and neither did Svidler.

Oct-19-05  Queens Gambit: I think Svidler could have fighted here a little more.
Oct-19-05  lopium: Why not 17...Bxe5?
Jan-07-09  Alphastar: white will gang up on the a-pawn and then force the exchange of the rooks for the queen, reaching a winning pawn ending.
Apr-19-12
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  plang: This line was at the height of fashion in the late 90s; a year earlier at Linares Topalov had played 14..Bxf3 against Kramnik and had been fortunate to draw. The standard move is 15..Qa3; 15,,Bxf3 was new and has never been repeated. Kramnik felt that 16..Qa3 was necessary; after half an hour he came up with 17 e5! which he feels refutes Black's line. 17..Bxe5 wouldn't have worked; ie 17..Bxe5 18 d6!..exd 19 Bd5..Qa3 20 Bd2..Nc6 21 Rxb7..Rec8 22 Rxf7..Kh8 23 Qg4..Bg7 24 Bh6..Bxh6 25 Qd7 and wins. Strangely enough Kramnik realized that 19 Bxe7..Nxf3+..Qxf3 would have transposed into his game with Topalov from the previous year. While he missed several wins in that game he was still looking for something stronger; after considering 19 Bxb7 and 19 Bd5 he chose the latter. After the game Kramnik thought that the slow approach with 24 g3 and Kg2 would have maintained his excellent winning chances while giving Black less counterplay. 27..Nd7?! allowed Kramnik to simplify to a technically won ending; Illescas recommended 27..Ba5 as an alternative. 28..Ba5 would have put up more resistance though after 29 Qxd7 or 29 Qa2 White should still win. Svidler resigned because he could not prevent Kramnik from doubling on first the a-pawn followed by the g-pawn.
Dec-31-13  DrGridlock: In the final position Komodo gives:

Vladimir Kramnik - Peter Svidler


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Analysis by Komodo32 3 32bit:

1. (1.83): 33...Kg5 34.Ra2 Kh6 35.Ra5 h4 36.Rfa1 Qc3 37.Rxa7 Qe5 38.R7a4 g5 39.Ra5 Qc3 40.R5a3 Qe5 41.Rd1 Kg6 42.Re3 Qc7 43.Re6+ Kf7 44.Red6 Qc2 45.Ra1 Qe2 46.Rc6 Qe5 47.Rca6 Qe4 48.Ra8

With two pieces (rooks) against one (queen), White can attack a pawn twice with his pieces, while White can only defend a pawn once.

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