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Garry Kasparov vs Veselin Topalov
"Kasparov's Immortal" (game of the day Apr-13-2013)
Hoogovens Group A (1999), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 4, Jan-20
Pirc Defense: General (B07)  ·  1-0

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Apr-15-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Hi <ketchup lover>. According to FishStick 31...Rd1+ loses because white still has a lot of tricks up his sleeve. It's worth playing through this line, it's very entertaining:

32.Kb2 Ra8 33.Qb6 (threatening Qa5#) Qd4+ (forcing the trade) 34.Qxd4 Rxd4 35.Rxf7 (to allow for Be6! rather than a mere cheapo pawn grab) a5 36.Be6 (threatening Bb3#) axb4 37.Bb3+ Ka5 38.axb4+ Kb6 39.Rxh7 Rf8 40.Rh6 Rxf3 41.Rxg6+ Kc7 42.h4 Rf5 43.g4 Rff4 44.Be6 Rxb4+ 45.Kc3 Rb1 46.h5 Rh1 47.Bf5 Rh3+ 48.Bd3 Rh4 49.h6 Rhxg4 50.Rxg4 Rxg4 51.h7 Rh4

Jun-05-18  Mazymetric: <GT3RS: 24.Rxd4 is a mistake. Carlsen or Fischer would've punished him for that.> No it isn't. 24.Rxd4 is stockfish's top choice at depth 41.
Jun-13-18  FredGambit: Someone on YouTube asked about 29 Re5 to drive the black queen from the a2-diagonal.

29 Re5 Qd1+
30 Ka2 Bd5+

(30 Kb2 allows 30...Qd4, obviously)

31 Kb2 Rc8
32 Bxc8 Rxc8
33 Qxc8 Qd4+
34 Qc3 Qxc3
35 Kxc3

and black has knight and bishop for the rook. Generally, masters prefer two minors for the rook, but is that the case in this position? Is this line really the best response to 29 Re5, or am I missing something stupid?

(Looking a bit further, white needn't play 34 Qc3; if the king retreats and black grabs the rook, 35 Qxa6# is in the air...jeez)

Jun-15-18  Immortaltortuga: At 37, why did'nt the black played Qc4xf1 and eliminated the bishop...i have further played with black after this move and was able to gather a win.
Jun-15-18  WorstPlayerEver: <Immortaltortuga>

37...Qxf1 38. Qxd2#

Jun-15-18  Immortaltortuga: @#$%...how can i not think of the basic checkmate strategy... Thanks man.
Jun-16-18  Mazymetric: < FredGambit: Someone on YouTube asked about 29 Re5 to drive the black queen from the a2-diagonal. 29 Re5 Qd1+
30 Ka2 Bd5+

(30 Kb2 allows 30...Qd4, obviously)

31 Kb2 Rc8
32 Bxc8 Rxc8
33 Qxc8 Qd4+
34 Qc3 Qxc3
35 Kxc3

and black has knight and bishop for the rook. Generally, masters prefer two minors for the rook, but is that the case in this position? Is this line really the best response to 29 Re5, or am I missing something stupid?

(Looking a bit further, white needn't play 34 Qc3; if the king retreats and black grabs the rook, 35 Qxa6# is in the air...jeez)>

29.♖e5 wouldn't work because after 29.♖e5 ♕d1+ 30.♔a2, black can play 30...♕d4 forcing white to trade queens. 31.♕xd4 (31.♖e3 ♖he8 32.♖xe8 ♕xc3+ 33.♔xc3 ♖xe8) ♖xd4. White is down too much material with no compensation in both scenarios.

Jun-16-18  Mazymetric: Also, 30...♗d5+ would be disastrous for black after white plays 31.♖xd5!. 31...♕xd5+ (31...♖xd5 32.♕b3#) 32.♕b3+ ♕xb3+ 33.cxd3#.
Jun-16-18  FredGambit: Mazy: You wrote <29.♖e5 wouldn't work because after 29.♖e5 ♕d1+ 30.♔a2, black can play 30...♕d4 forcing white to trade queens.> But this allows 31 Qb3#.

You're correct about <Also, 30...♗d5+ would be disastrous for black after white plays 31.♖xd5!> - I overlooked that very simple defense. So it appears that 29 Re5 might also be winning.

Jun-16-18  Mazymetric: <Mazy: You wrote <29.♖e5 wouldn't work because after 29.♖e5 ♕d1+ 30.♔a2, black can play 30...♕d4 forcing white to trade queens.> But this allows 31 Qb3#.> 31. ♕b3 is an illegal move because White's queen is pinned.
Jun-16-18  Mazymetric: <FredGambit: So it appears that 29 Re5 might also be winning.> No it doesn't. It appears exactly opposite of that. White would throw away any advantage he has by playing 29.♖e5.
Jun-16-18  WorstPlayerEver: <Immortaltortuga>

You're welcome.

Jun-16-18  FredGambit: <31. ♕b3 is an illegal move because White's queen is pinned.>

Pinned to what? The king is on a2 in your line. I just played it out on the viewer; if the move was illegal, I couldn't have done so.

Jun-17-18  Mazymetric: Sorry. My bad. In case of 30.♔a2, Black would reply with 30...♖d3! to eliminate ♕c3 threat. 31.♕xd3 (31.cxd3 ♘d5 32.♕b2 ♕xb3) (31.♕b2? ♗d5+ 32.♖xd5 ♘xd5 33.cxd3 ♖e8. There's no defence against ...♖e2) 31...♕xd3 32.cxd3 ♗xf3. Black is simply up a piece and white has lost all the initiative.
Aug-16-18
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  Check It Out: I have to say, that figurine notation is hard on the eyes and difficult to suss.
Aug-18-18  PJs Studio: 42.Qe4+ Wins quicker.
Did Kasparov really miss this simple fork?
Aug-18-18  FredGambit: Does it? 42 Qe4+ Kd2, then what?
Aug-18-18
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  offramp: This game is a big sack of poo.
Aug-18-18
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  ketchuplover: Not according to the chess.com staff.
Nov-22-18  Dr Winston OBoogie: Why isn't this game in <Topalov's> most memorable games? Is it because he lost or something!? This is a classic, one of those games you never forget!
Nov-22-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <DocW>, lost games cannot make the list at a player's home page.
Jul-20-19  Patzer Natmas: Game featured in "New in Chess - Tactics Training - Garry Kasparov "

Solve for white on move 33.

33.c3+! ♔xc3 33...♔b3 34.♕a2+ ♔xc3 35.♕b2+ ♔d3 36.♖e7 White wins 34.♕a1+! ♔d2 35.♕b2+ ♔d1 35...♔e3 36.♖e7+ White wins 36.♗f1! ♖d2 36...♕xf1 37.♕c2+ ♔e1 38.♖e7+ ♕e2 39.♕xe2# 37.♖d7! ♖xd7 38.♗xc4 bxc4 39.♕xh8 and White won.

Nov-04-19  Bdp8: <42Qe4+ Wins quicker. Did Kasparov really miss this simple fork?> <Does it? 42 Qe4+ Kd2, then what?>

Yeah, it really doesn't look like a faster win. One continuation given is: 42. Qe4+ Kd2 43. Qf4+ Kd1 44. Qc1+ Ke2 45. Qc2+ Ke3 46. Qb3

And Topalov resigned at move 44 in the actual game.

Nov-20-19  dashjon: Very awesome!! King walk. Rook sac. wow
Nov-20-19
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  saffuna: <Rook sac. wow>

Double rook sac. But the second one could not be taken.

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