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|Jan-19-05|| ||OJC: And here I thought He sent an assassin in 1946 |
|Jan-19-05|| ||dac1990: No, no, Moses made Alekhine choke on his steak. There is only one, unfounded claim that he died via assassin. I mistyped the 1946 part, Moses forgive me. |
|Jan-19-05|| ||OJC: Wouldn't Moses then be the assassin? :)
I have to include this blurb from GM Spraggett's webpage (the interesting part is at the bottom) The truth is out there indeed!
|Aug-20-08|| ||al wazir: This guy Moses, whoever he was, played Alekhine almost to a standstill. I think 34...Qc5 draws: 35. cxd7 Qxd4+ 36. Kh1 (36. Qf2 Qxf2+ 37. Rxf2 Rd8 38. Rxf6 Rxd7) Rg8 37. Qe8! Qxd5 38. Rxf6 Kg7 39. Rxa6 Qd1+ 40. Kh2 Qd5.|
|Aug-20-08|| ||cyclon: `Clean`.|
|Aug-20-08|| ||nuwanda: hi <al wazir>,
35. cxd7 is by no means forced, or ?
What do you play against the simple 35. Qe3 followed (if the knight moves) by 36. Rxf6 ?
|Aug-20-08|| ||apexin: nice pun|
|Aug-20-08|| ||zb2cr: "And thou shalt not put thy Queen in front of my passed Pawn; it is an abomination, and shall be punished greatly."|
|Aug-20-08|| ||AnalyzeThis: After 5. e4, this game was practically over. After 3. Nc3, you can play the Nimzo Indian, ...Bb4, and play the ...b6 lines, but you don't play ...b6 first and watch as white erects a center twice the size of Texas.|
|Aug-20-08|| ||playground player: Does anyone really believe that "choked on his steak" story? The pictures of Alekhine dead at his table are easily found on the Internet. Although he's indoors, and was supposedly eating his supper, he's wearing an overcoat--why? And anyone who has seen an actual choking incident knows the sufferer reacts violently. But in the picture, Alekhine looks like he just fell asleep peacefully in his chair. If he'd choked to death, he would have thrashed and made a mess of the table: but in the picture, nothing has been disturbed.|
Whatever caused his death, it sure as heck wasn't choking.
|Aug-20-08|| ||kevin86: It looks like Moses "went down" in this one.
White will soon be a queen ahead:41...♕xg6 42 exf8=♕+ ♔h7 43 ♖f7+ etc...
|Aug-20-08|| ||Talis: User: al wazir This guy Moses, whoever he was, played Alekhine almost to a standstill. I think 34...Qc5 draws: 35. cxd7 Qxd4+ 36. Kh1 (36. Qf2 Qxf2+ 37. Rxf2 Rd8 38. Rxf6 Rxd7) Rg8 37. Qe8! Qxd5 38. Rxf6 Kg7 39. Rxa6 Qd1+ 40. Kh2 Qd5.|
Not at all! To 34...Qc5 white answer 35.Qe4+ with 36.cxd7.
|Aug-20-08|| ||Riverbeast: <Whatever caused his death, it sure as heck wasn't choking.>|
Maybe it was the 11th plague
|Aug-20-08|| ||DiscoJew: Thou shalt not have any god's before me....
Everyone knows Alekhines idol was of course...Alekhine!
|Aug-20-08|| ||Timothy Glenn Forney: "Let My Pieces Go"|
|Aug-20-08|| ||JointheArmy: ^^Great pun.|
|Aug-20-08|| ||Mrs. Alekhine: I have dedicated my forum to <Dr. Alekhine>--|
It has some stuff in it already, but anyone who has weblinks to photos, articles, interviews, or who wishes to post any analysis of an <Alekhine> game please do so!
|Aug-20-08|| ||Vollmer: Pithy comments aside I found some useful nuggets of strategy here . The more I study Alekhine's games the more I enjoy them .|
|Aug-20-08|| ||Mrs. Alekhine: Here is an article about <Alekhine's> death by <Frederic Freidel>:|
User: crawfb5 found it and posted it my forum.
|Aug-21-08|| ||al wazir: <nuwanda: 35. cxd7 is by no means forced. What do you play against the simple 35. Qe3 followed (if the knight moves) by 36. Rxf6 ?>|
35. Qe3 Ne5 (not 35...Nb6? 36. Rxf6 Nxd5 37. Rxf7+ Kg8 38. Rg7+!, with 39. Ne6+ or Qxh6# to follow) 36. Rxf6 Rg8 37. Nf5 Nf3+.
<Talis: . . . To 34...Qc5 white answer 35.Qe4+ with 36.cxd7.> Yes, that's a short and sweet refutation.
|Aug-21-08|| ||nuwanda: hi <al wazir>,
of course <Talis> 35.Qe4+ is sweet and funny enough we both overlooked this obvious move
but in your line against 35. Qe3 i dont understand nothing
36. Rxf6 Rg8 and now 37. Qxh6#, no ? or 37. Qxe5
and even after 37. Nf5 Nf3+ 38. Kh1 it looks completely lost for black to me
|Aug-21-08|| ||kevin86: As a child,I heard the choking story. Later,I read that it was a heart attack and thought that the choking story was an "urban legend" told to children to remind them to chew their food carefully and completely.|
In the picture,it looks like he died peacefully-inconclusive since both heart attack and choking death can be quite viloent. Surely,the dishes and chess pieces would have been disturbed.But...all deaths are different.
Maybe it's time to call in COLD CASE or CSI to investigate,lol.
|Aug-21-08|| ||al wazir: <nuwanda>: I don't know what I was thinking either.|
Yesterday I lost six games of speed chess in a row. Maybe there's a connection.
|Jul-13-11|| ||Domdaniel: <AnalyzeThis> -- < After 5. e4, this game was practically over. After 3. Nc3, you can play the Nimzo Indian, ...Bb4, and play the ...b6 lines, but you don't play ...b6 first and watch as white erects a center twice the size of Texas.>|
Ehhh, no. It's a perfectly playable line in the English Defence, developed by Miles, Keene, Speelman et al in the 1970s and 80s. Korchnoi used it successfully as Black in a Candidates match with Polugaevsky.
The point is that White's 3-pawn centre, c4/d4/e4, can be unstable - which is why this system is better than the standard Owen's Defence (1.e4 b6 2.d4 Bb7) where White builds up solidly with Bd3, Qe2, Nc3 etc and avoids over-extending.
The passivity of Owen's ...b6 was one reason that Miles tried the St George -- 1.e4 a6 2.d4 b5 -- which he used to beat Karpov.
Black's ...Nf6 here may not suit the system so well - it can be useful to play ...Qh4, so ...e6 and ...Bb4 first is better (without ...b6, this is the Kangaroo, also very playable). But this line is OK too - Black's first dubious move is 5...d6, which *is* too passive (though there are several examples in the database). Better is 5...Bb4 or maybe even 5...d5!?
Even after 5...d6 though, I think White over-extends with 6.f4. In those days they still thought that 4-pawn attacks were almost winning by force. It ain't necessarily so.
Just four years after this, a 1927 game between Mueller and Gruber with 5...d6 6.f4 was a draw.
The ...Bb4 line often transposes to a Nimzo-Indian. When it doesn't, strange stuff can happen, as in Tarjan vs A Planinc, 1976
This is called a 'Samisch Indian' here, but Adorjan gave the name Queen's Indonesian to Queen's Indian games where ...b6 is followed by ...b5. And it's also a line of the English Defence, which can be seen at its best in Polugaevsky vs Korchnoi, 1977
|Jul-13-11|| ||Domdaniel: They should never have carved the old rules about pawn centres in tablets of stone. Misunderstanding still ensues.|
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